Open 21 - Friends and Enemies (Game Over), before 453

[Jalyn]

The good news? Jalyn isn't scum. Reread will happen as soon as possible.

[Adel]

I believe you: good luck!

[Lowell]

Oh thank the fucking lord...

[Patrick]

The Totally Obvious Votecount

Adel (1) -- Lowell
Lowell (1) -- Adel

Not voting: Jalyn
3 alive, 2 to lynch.

[Lowell]

Jalyn, you need me to provide you for a case on my side?

Start with this: look at the Adel/Tornado interaction. Then look at the Tornado/Lowell interaction. Adel will WIFOM it away, I'm sure, but it's there.

(It's 14 moves away...don't move until you see it....)

Ripley was onto something. So was ABR, actually. Just not me.

ps- Adel (while Jalyn reads)... very well done. I very nearly voted for jalyn.

[Adel]

ps- Adel (while Jalyn reads)... very well done. I very nearly voted for jalyn.

Slick.

[Jalyn]

Awww. Lowell's sending me to my very first page in this game. Unfortunately, I don't see what you are pointing out to me.

Lowell

1. Ripley was on to what? She seemed to consider you & Lawrencelot to be the most suspicious.
2. What do you think I'll see in those interactions? WIFOM or not, I don't see it.
3. Back to what I've been saying since I said that I thought you would be most likely to be Sir Tornado's partner: Why would he explicitly note that he wanted to lynch the masons if they mislynched day 1 if the lynch that they were going for was mafia?

Adel

Oh hell. We know why Adel looks suspicious. I can't even think of anything to have her clarify for me...

(Though, Adel, I'm glad you believe me, seeing as I actually just proved that I was town. Scum would have simply hammered and won.)

Basically, I'm at "Lowell, why shouldn't I vote to lynch you?"

[Lowell]

1. Ripley did point out the oddness of Sir T's attacks on me. Clearly the fact that Sir T wants me dead (and conveniently ignored Adel) doesn't clear me, that could be WIFOM. But he did it out of nowhere. I didn't even suspect him, even as he was being lynched. Which, if we really wanted to cement my "towniness", would have been a lot easier had I, I don't know, PLAYED ALONG and voted for him. Basically, he ends up dead, and I end up looking stupid. I'm not sure how that helps.

2. Just look at the way Sir T and Adel interact. They avoid each other like the plague. Adel has no problem attacking me (nor I her), nor does Tornado. But they reaaally don't have aything to say about each other. I didn't care about this at the time, probably, because I assumed Law was scum and Tornado wasn't. But still.

3. I don't understand this quesiton at all. Who is the "he" here? Tornado? Who were the masons going for?


Jalyn, it sounds like you want to lynch me. Wrong move, I'm sorry. Adel, not to be "slick" here or whatever, but seriously, wow.

[Lowell]

GAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHH how is Adel getting out of being lynched!!!!! IT DRIVES ME CRAZY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Oy.

[Jalyn]

3. He=Sir Tornado. Masons were going after Adel/Ryan/Lawrencelot - Adel being the most likely to be lynched.

[Lowell]

BECAUSE HE DIDN'T WANT TO BE CONNECTED TO THE MAFIA.

If Adel is going to be lynched and he doesn't want to participate in it, he needs to come out STRONG against her accusers, so it looks like he's doing something other than just hesitating to vote. If he just sort of sits there non-committaly and doesn't vote her, then he looks bad.

Ugh this is making me crazy.

[Adel]

Jalyn, I'll answer any question you have for me, but I feel like this game is out of my hands, so I'm concentrating on my other games. If you want me to explain anything, just ask.

[Patrick]

Bump. I don't want to deadline this endgame, but I will if there are no posts.

[Adel]

Jalyn: congrats on your win in our other game. Did winning that endgame give you any insight in this game?

[Jalyn]

Jalyn: congrats on your win in our other game. Did winning that endgame give you any insight in this game?

Heh. No. In that game I was never unsure of who was who

Anyway, sorry, between a vacation and the Deathly Hallows (followed by a reread of the entire series. Addict) I haven't reread the thread yet. I promise to come back with something interesting as soon as possible.

[Jalyn]

Adel

- "FOS"ed Sir Tornado as opposed to voting him when Lowell noted him as the furthest back. ("My day 1 policy, vote for whoever has gone the longest w/o posting. Tornado, post and my vote leaves. "Lowell: we are on the same page. That is a great metric to track. Are you willing to track people's time since last post and list them in order here periodically, say every three or four days? It would save several of us from having to do the same work, and quality assurance would not be a problem. FoS: Sir Tornado")

- To quote, er paraphrase, Adel about me in a completed game "I think you're smarter than this" regarding the mason claims on day 1.

[Jalyn]

Lowell:

- Sir Tornado noting that if we lynched as ABR wished and hit town, we should lynch a mason. Most likely lynch at that time was Adel. Lowell was not on the possible list.

- "if I was a mason, I'd lurk" followed by a lurker hunt (note: "If I was a mason or scum" is full sentiment")

- Acted different than either Ryan or Sir Tornado regarding mason claims

- "positive" that Adel & Lawrencelot are both scum.

- Emphatically verifies that he believes the mason claim on day 2 when no one was suggesting otherwise.

- Sir Tornado said "If either ryan or Adel or both turn up scum, I'll vote for Lowell"

- Sir Tornado said "Adel, Ryan, one of Lawrencelot/Lowell may be scum."

[Jalyn]

Well, those responses were helpful.

vote:Lowell

[Sir Tornado]

Brilliant. Thank you Adel for maintaining my 100% win record as scum

Wonderful game all

[ryan]

Nice job of pulling out the W Adel, kudos to you!!!!!

[Patrick]

Meh, so now there can't be any suspense at all in a lynch scene

As the other two have made obvious, Adel was the last scum. Which means that:

Lowell (Townie) has been lynched. Jalyn (Townie) is killed in the endgame. The Mafia (Adel, Sir Tornado and ryan) win!

[ryan]

Meh, so now there can't be any suspense at all in a lynch scene

As the other two have made obvious, Adel was the last scum. Which means that:

Lowell (Townie) has been lynched. Jalyn (Townie) is killed in the endgame. The Mafia (Adel, Sir Tornado and ryan) win!

WHOOPS, sorry Patrick

[Patrick]

Roles

Mafia: Adel, Sir Tornado, ryan
Masons: Ripley, Albert B. Rampage, A Papaya
Townies: Lowell, Lawrencelot, Aimee, theopor_COD, Jalyn

[Sir Tornado]

Er... sorry Patrick!

[Patrick]

Well. This game really lost me at several points I have to say, especially some of the day 1 conversation.

I'd be interested to hear opinions on the setup. It strikes me as balanced, but I never expected claimed masons on day 1 to be treated with such suspicion. Or rather, I didn't expect the mafia to be pushing that angle at all. If I'd been forced to pick which scum would survive the longest, I'd have said Sir Tornado at that stage. I really did expect Adel and ryan to be lynched early on.

The Aimee lynch was terrible. No idea what was going on there, but she'll probably want to yell at a few people >.>
Also, outing Ripley as a mason on day 3 seemed completely unnecessary. What was the thinking behind that?

This game was a balanced fight I'd say. Well done to the winners, and I hope people enjoyed it.

After Preview: Don't worry about it ryan and Sir Tornado. It happens all the time