Mini 471: End.

[Erotomachia]

There's a difference between an inactive player and an intentional lurker. So far, I see no proof that deadscilent is intentionally lurking; she said she would be gone until the 24th. Yes, of course she needs to post. If she doesn’t start posting by the 25th, then it will be fair to pressure her (in fact by then she’ll probably need to be replaced). But I believe it’s wrong to pressure a player who has explicitly stated that she will be gone. I think scum will often pretend to care about activity and the pace of the game by pressuring inactive players. They’re easy targets.

[kravhen]

here is nothing gamewise that makes it worth lying about either one of those two.

I think there is. Getting pickem to defend you is worthy enough.

[pickemgenius]

here is nothing gamewise that makes it worth lying about either one of those two.

I think there is. Getting pickem to defend you is worthy enough.

Go after a "lurker" as you somehow put it is incredibly easy to do if you are scum.

I can defend whoever the fuck I want whenever I want.

[pickemgenius]

There is nothing gamewise that makes it worth lying about either one of those two.

I think there is. Getting pickem to defend you is worthy enough.

What does she gain from this?

[kravhen]

Your love.
Seriously, im more concerned about why you're opposed to her being the center of attention for a bit when she comes back. I dont see why you'd see that as anti-town.

[kravhen]

here is nothing gamewise that makes it worth lying about either one of those two.

I think there is. Getting pickem to defend you is worthy enough.

Go after a "lurker" as you somehow put it is incredibly easy to do if you are scum.

I can defend whoever the fuck I want whenever I want.

Isn't it just as incredibly easy for a lurker to just say "i was busy" and "im going away"?

[pickemgenius]

here is nothing gamewise that makes it worth lying about either one of those two.

I think there is. Getting pickem to defend you is worthy enough.

Go after a "lurker" as you somehow put it is incredibly easy to do if you are scum.

I can defend whoever the fuck I want whenever I want.

Isn't it just as incredibly easy for a lurker to just say "i was busy" and "im going away"?

MAYBE IT'S THE FUCKING TRUTH......


ZOMG MAYBE SHE HAS A LIFE OH NOES!!!! SCUM SCUM SCUM!!!!

[pickemgenius]

Your love.
Seriously, im more concerned about why you're opposed to her being the center of attention for a bit when she comes back. I dont see why you'd see that as anti-town.

If she doesn't post something when she comes back then I will get on her ass(haven't I said that like a million times).

AORN(as of right now) all she's done is be busy and go on vacation (presumably) OMG!!!

[Erotomachia]

Lurkers tend to pop up as soon as someone mentions them. They read the thread and follow discussions; they just don't contribute. That's not quite what deadscilent is doing.

Although I definitely agree that once she returns she'll need to get posting in a hurry to get caught up. She's effectively been "gone" for nearly two weeks. That's just not cool.

[kravhen]

pickem chill.. even with my accusations I have still kept in consideration that she may have told the truth... I'm just voicing that there is still the possibility that she is lying... You keep assuming that I'm saying "zomg 100% scum, lets lynchgogo". On the other side, you seem 100% sure she AINT scum.

so for you it's completely out of this world that a scum LIES?

I'm not saying she lied on all her statements, but

come on. Zero content. Not a single little opinion. Ok maybe she IS away until the 24th. She could still post just once or twice before leaving. I raise my eyebrow at you suddenly hopping on your horses to defend DS like that.

And as I've said a million times already too, without an answer from you, why did you suddenly hop on your horses and think I did this extremely horribly controversial thing when I just said we should put the spotlight on deadscilent when she's back? Why dont you agree?

[kravhen]

It's interesting when I say or do things and get reactions I didn't expect from it because people blow things out of proportion or seem to skip some of my sentences to friggin make me look like a fucking monster. Keep talking pickem.

[pickemgenius]

pickem chill.. even with my accusations I have still kept in consideration that she may have told the truth... I'm just voicing that there is still the possibility that she is lying... You keep assuming that I'm saying "zomg 100% scum, lets lynchgogo". On the other side, you seem 100% sure she AINT scum.

When have I said this?

so for you it's completely out of this world that a scum LIES?

I'm not saying she lied on all her statements, but

come on. Zero content. Not a single little opinion. Ok maybe she IS away until the 24th. She could still post just once or twice before leaving. I raise my eyebrow at you suddenly hopping on your horses to defend DS like that.

And as I've said a million times already too, without an answer from you, why did you suddenly hop on your horses and think I did this extremely horribly controversial thing when I just said we should put the spotlight on deadscilent

when she's back

?

Why dont you agree?

SHE GAINS

NOTHING

FROM LYING ABOUT BEING BUSY IRL, AND BEING ON VACATION.

What statements is she lying about, you seem to think she is lying about something, what is it?????


Maybe she was busy.... FTW??



Raise your eyebrow, I really could care less.


Why don't I agree?


*sigh*

If she comes back and doesn't post something then I will get on her....

Gee another replacement... And tomorrow deadscilent's back. I think we should make sure to point the spotlight at deadscilent for a while. All these replacements and people going away make it hard and confusing to get a good read on people and associating the previous person's behavior to the new. Deadscilent had been completely silent since his random vote until saying he had to go away. IMO this could very well be an opportunity to continue lurking for a bit in hopes that we elect a lynchee in the meantime.

FOS: deadscilent

because no one can read him since he has 0 non-random posts.

YOU PUT THE SPOTLIGHT ON HER

BEFORE

SHE WAS BACK WITH THIS POST(see: italics/part bolded above not in this quote, but other one)

[kravhen]

pickem chill.. even with my accusations I have still kept in consideration that she may have told the truth... I'm just voicing that there is still the possibility that she is lying... You keep assuming that I'm saying "zomg 100% scum, lets lynchgogo". On the other side, you seem 100% sure she AINT scum.

When have I said this?

When have I said ZOMG SHE HAS A LIFE SCUM SCUM SCUM! ?
It sucks having people make you say things you haven't, doesn't it?

so for you it's completely out of this world that a scum LIES?

I'm not saying she lied on all her statements, but

come on. Zero content. Not a single little opinion. Ok maybe she IS away until the 24th. She could still post just once or twice before leaving. I raise my eyebrow at you suddenly hopping on your horses to defend DS like that.

And as I've said a million times already too, without an answer from you, why did you suddenly hop on your horses and think I did this extremely horribly controversial thing when I just said we should put the spotlight on deadscilent

when she's back

?

Why dont you agree?

SHE GAINS

NOTHING

FROM LYING ABOUT BEING BUSY IRL, AND BEING ON VACATION.

What statements is she lying about, you seem to think she is lying about something, what is it?????


Maybe she was busy.... FTW??

lying about being away, being busy, duh...

If she comes back and doesn't post something then I will get on her....

Wait, that means we agree with each other doesn't it? . . .
Spotlight = get on her

right? you thought so right?

[pickemgenius]

pickem chill.. even with my accusations I have still kept in consideration that she may have told the truth... I'm just voicing that there is still the possibility that she is lying... You keep assuming that I'm saying "zomg 100% scum, lets lynchgogo". On the other side, you seem 100% sure she AINT scum.

When have I said this?

When have I said ZOMG SHE HAS A LIFE SCUM SCUM SCUM! ?
It sucks having people make you say things you haven't, doesn't it?

You need your sarcas-o-meter checked out or something.....

so for you it's completely out of this world that a scum LIES?

I'm not saying she lied on all her statements, but

come on. Zero content. Not a single little opinion. Ok maybe she IS away until the 24th. She could still post just once or twice before leaving. I raise my eyebrow at you suddenly hopping on your horses to defend DS like that.

And as I've said a million times already too, without an answer from you, why did you suddenly hop on your horses and think I did this extremely horribly controversial thing when I just said we should put the spotlight on deadscilent

when she's back

?

Why dont you agree?

SHE GAINS

NOTHING

FROM LYING ABOUT BEING BUSY IRL, AND BEING ON VACATION.

What statements is she lying about, you seem to think she is lying about something, what is it?????


Maybe she was busy.... FTW??

lying about being away, being busy, duh...

If she comes back and doesn't post something then I will get on her....

Wait, that means we agree with each other doesn't it? . . .
Spotlight = get on her

right? you thought so right?

WHAT THE HELL GAME-WISE DOES SHE GAIN BY LYING ABOUT BEING BUSY/ON VACATION????

ALSO NO WE DON'T AGREE.

Gee another replacement... And tomorrow deadscilent's back. I think we should make sure to point the spotlight at deadscilent for a while. All these replacements and people going away make it hard and confusing to get a good read on people and associating the previous person's behavior to the new. Deadscilent had been completely silent since his random vote until saying he had to go away. IMO this could very well be an opportunity to continue lurking for a bit in hopes that we elect a lynchee in the meantime.

FOS: deadscilent

because no one can read him since he has 0 non-random posts.

YOU PUT THE SPOTLIGHT ON HER

BEFORE

SHE WAS BACK WITH THIS POST(see: italics/part bolded above not in this quote, but other one)

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^


I WANT THE PRESSURE ON HRE ONLY

IF

SHE DOESN'T RESPOND WHEN SHE GETS BACK.

YOU

PUT THE SPOTLIGHT ON HER

NOW

.... WITH THAT POST.....

[kravhen]

You need to get your caps lock key checked out or something...

Anyway this bickering is useless... We agree on the same thing, dude.
I dont get the "you put spotlight on her NOW" thing. You make it sound like I want everyone to bitch about her while she's gone and lynch her before she's back. That's crazy. When she's back, everyone will turn one of their two eyes on her, expecting some activity at last. That's it, that's all. And don't say "IF" she doesn't post. I think even if she's a lurking scum she will post after the date she's back. The point is not to beat on her IF she doesn't post. She WILL post. The point is to

listen

to her.[/i]

[pickemgenius]

You need to get your caps lock key checked out or something...

Anyway this bickering is useless... We agree on the same thing, dude.
I dont get the "you put spotlight on her NOW" thing. You make it sound like I want everyone to bitch about her while she's gone and lynch her before she's back. That's crazy. When she's back, everyone will turn one of their two eyes on her, expecting some activity at last. That's it, that's all. And don't say "IF" she doesn't post. I think even if she's a lurking scum she will post after the date she's back. The point is not to beat on her IF she doesn't post. She WILL post. The point is to

listen

to her.[/i]

This bickering is only a little bit useless...
Yet if this has been so useless how is it that you've noted shit from it??

Yes you were putting the spotlight on her before she got back.

I still say if she posts, i'm not 100% she'll post something good.

[Adel]

I still say if she posts, i'm not 100% she'll post something good.

She'd have to be an idiot to not be on her toes after all of the post about here that you two just made. I think both of you probably had protown motivations to bicker, but the result is that a player is now less likely to drop accurate scumtells. Sometimes it is better to shut your mouth and just

wait

.

[kravhen]

Good point. Maybe it wasn't as useless after all, but I dont want it to be blown out of proportion.

Hey it's the 24th at last! I'll be waiting for santa.

[pickemgenius]

I still say if she posts, i'm not 100% she'll post something good.

She'd have to be an idiot to not be on her toes after all of the post about here that you two just made. I think both of you probably had protown motivations to bicker, but the result is that a player is now less likely to drop accurate scumtells. Sometimes it is better to shut your mouth and just

wait

.

So like do what I did before hand, and got bitched at for?

awesome.

this is somewhat sarcastic

[Atticus]

"Please enjoy some candied treats while viewing this"
Vote Count

Blue Zebra

(2):

Albert B. Rampage, Adel

Sir Tornado

(2):

Patrick, Haut Boy

deadscilent

(1):

Erotomachia

Erotomachia

(1):

deadscilent

Albert B.Rampage

(1):

camisade

Not Voting (5): kravhen, Blue Zebra, Sir Tornado, pickemgenius, NabakovNabakov

Searching for a replacement on NabakovNabakov.

[Patrick]

Lol, I thought from the explosion that stuff had happened. I agree this argument seemed blown out of proportion. DS will be expected to post content when she get's back, if she doesn't we pressure her or get a replacement. Easy. (Which is basically what pickem said). I don't think the FoS was warranted.

One thing I noticed was that CrashTextDummie didn't talk about kravhen or anyone around that issue at all when he was here. He just attacked Blue Zebra and dingled around with me a bit. It's unlike him to not comment on what was arguably the biggest issue in the thread. That's partly why I'm trying to get something out of Haut Boy on that.

[kravhen]

happy bday patrick <3

[pickemgenius]

Prod:deadscilent

Please

[deadscilent]

Why are we Proding me?

[kravhen]

Why are we Proding me?

take a wiiiiild guess =/