Open 29 - C9+2 (~GAME OVER~) before 470

Guardian · Post Post #175 (ISO) » Tue Jul 17, 2007 3:06 am

Why were you so sure HH was scum?

YogurtBandit · Post Post #176 (ISO) » Tue Jul 17, 2007 5:49 am

Guardian wrote:Why were you so sure HH was scum?

Didja see their actions? It was very scummy imo.

Mert · Post Post #177 (ISO) » Tue Jul 17, 2007 6:03 am

Votecount

YogurtBandit

(1)

Somestrangeflea

Not Voting

(4):

Crub, Rishi, YogurtBandit, Guardian

Five, so three.

Guardian · Post Post #178 (ISO) » Tue Jul 17, 2007 6:05 am

**Guardian's re-analysis of the game, for the win**

YB -- altogether too sure that HH was scum, not willing to provide reasons for anything. I am going to

vote: YB

. This is lynch minus one. YB, if you have a role to claim, claim it.

SSF -- I think he is town, and here's why -- HH's attack on him. I don't think HH would attack his scum partner like that. I am pretty sure about this.

Crub -- he feels townlike, there is one post of his that gives me pause -- where he blatantly defends HH. I am not sure about him, but though I thought he was townlike earlier, he could be scum. Watch out for him in endgame if I'm dead

.

Rishi -- I think he is town, because of his hammer on HH. Scum tend not to hammer their partners.

I think there is a high likelihood the scum is YB or Crub, YB being more likely.

By the way, this should be very very obvious, but if there is a cop with a guilty result, claim it now. We lynch who you got guilty on, and if they are town we lynch you tomorrow.

YB, any last defense, or any claim, would be nice. I think he is our last scum, with an outside chance of Crubscum or Rishiscum.

Crub · Post Post #179 (ISO) » Tue Jul 17, 2007 6:53 am

Guardian wrote:Crub -- he feels townlike, there is one post of his that gives me pause -- where he blatantly defends HH.

Care to elaborate? I can't find the post where I defended HH

The only post close to a defense is where I say that we should at least hear what he has to say before we lynch him, which is pretty consistent for me. I was voting for him at that point, because he definitely had acted the scummiest.

Also you're right about HH's attack on ssf Day 1, I had forgotten all about that. So with that in mind

FoS:YB

, YB lets hear something substantial about why you shouldn't be lynched today. Surely you've got something better than "I was pretty sure he was scum. If not, his lynch at least got erid of a nonhelper."

Rishi · Post Post #180 (ISO) » Tue Jul 17, 2007 7:08 am

Yeah, I don't see any post where Crub defended Honary Hitchhiker.

I'm not trying to align myself with Crub. I just think that he seems to be the most pro-town at this point. Actually, the one thing I find suspicious about Crub is a lot more subtle. Crub seemed so pro-town that it makes me wonder why he wasn't killed. Why would someone choose to eliminate Ripley instead of Crub, unless Crub was the Mafia? I will admit that's not enough to build a case on.

I really want to hear a little more from YogurtBandit. Just saying that Honary Hitchhiker's actions were scummy doesn't seem to add anything to the conversation. And, by YogurtBandit's logic, if someone isn't adding anything to the conversation, then they are a liability that should be eliminated. I want to hear a claim from YogurtBandit as well.

Guardian · Post Post #181 (ISO) » Tue Jul 17, 2007 7:32 am

Crub wrote:Ok guys time to calm down a bit. We need to wait until we hear from HH before we start calling for his head.

Is the post I am referring to. You were on the wagon, but then call for the wagon to slow down -- but don't unvote or anything. It seems like you could be playing both sides -- wanting credit for a HH lynch if he is lynched, but hoping that he isn't lynched.

Maybe I am making too much out of it, but it leaves just a bit of suspicion in my mind that Crub could be partnered with HH.

At this point, I think YB is the more likely scum mate, by far, though, in any case...

I do want to hear more from YB. YB if you are town, please do try and defend yourself -- you are going to need to write a bit more about why HH was obviously scummy, and why you felt good about hammering Lateralus yesterday. If you are town, trying hard not to get mislynched here would be great.

Also, if town, I want to know who you are currently suspicious of and why.

SSF -- do you want YB to be hammered soon? Do you think he is definitely the last scum? What are your thoughts, I am interested.

Sidenote: Rishi, don't worry about being aligned with anyone alive. The only two players who had an alignment in this game were HH and someone remaining -- none of us need fear of looking aligned with anyone alive, because no such alliance can possibly exist.

Also, what you are saying about Crub gives me pause for thought too -- but, early in the game, at least, that is often called the "too townie" logical fallacy -- being suspicious of someone early because they look "too townie" has problems with it. However, as it gets later in the game, I do wonder why Crub is still alive...

somestrangeflea · Post Post #182 (ISO) » Tue Jul 17, 2007 7:41 am

Guardian wrote:SSF -- do you want YB to be hammered soon? Do you think he is definitely the last scum? What are your thoughts, I am interested.

Ah thoughts... If only I had them half as often as you people seem to think I do...
I'm not going to try to make out I'm certain that YB is scum, because I'm not, but I would be surprised if he wasn't. On the other hand, I want some form of defense before I decide whether I want a lynch or not.

Unvote

, bringing the votecount down to a nice round 0 for everyone!

Rishi · Post Post #183 (ISO) » Tue Jul 17, 2007 7:56 am

somestrangeflea wrote:
Unvote
, bringing the votecount down to a nice round 0 for everyone!

Actually, Guardian still has a vote on YogurtBandit. So the votecount is 1.

somestrangeflea · Post Post #184 (ISO) » Tue Jul 17, 2007 7:59 am

Whoops, didn't catch the re-vote!

Crub · Post Post #185 (ISO) » Tue Jul 17, 2007 8:05 am

Guardian wrote:You were on the wagon, but then call for the wagon to slow down -- but don't unvote or anything.

I didn't unvote because Ripley had already unvoted so he was sitting at 3 votes, and he had definitely acted scummy enough to have the pressure of L-2 on him. I can see it from your point of view though

ssf wrote: Unvote, bringing the votecount down to a nice round 0 for everyone!

that actually brings YB down to 1. He was at 2 with you and guardian.

somestrangeflea · Post Post #186 (ISO) » Tue Jul 17, 2007 8:06 am

See previous post...

Crub · Post Post #187 (ISO) » Tue Jul 17, 2007 8:20 am

Hehe I take too long to write my posts

Crub · Post Post #188 (ISO) » Tue Jul 17, 2007 8:27 am

Guardian wrote:I do wonder why Crub is still alive...

I can fully understand why Ripley was scumkilled before me. I've got no idea why DGF got killed night one, I don't think that I would be first choice for a night 1 kill though.

YogurtBandit · Post Post #189 (ISO) » Wed Jul 18, 2007 9:39 am

Im Vanilla.

Guardian · Post Post #190 (ISO) » Wed Jul 18, 2007 9:52 am

Guardian wrote:I do want to hear more from YB. YB if you are town, please do try and defend yourself --
you are going to need to write a bit more about why HH was obviously scummy, and why you felt good about hammering Lateralus yesterday.
If you are town, trying hard not to get mislynched here would be great.

Also, if town, I want to know who you are currently suspicious of and why.

Come on mate, I know you can do better than that.

Rishi · Post Post #191 (ISO) » Wed Jul 18, 2007 10:50 am

Guardian wrote:
Guardian wrote:I do want to hear more from YB. YB if you are town, please do try and defend yourself --
you are going to need to write a bit more about why HH was obviously scummy, and why you felt good about hammering Lateralus yesterday.
If you are town, trying hard not to get mislynched here would be great.

Also, if town, I want to know who you are currently suspicious of and why.
Come on mate, I know you can do better than that.

QFT

Crub · Post Post #192 (ISO) » Wed Jul 18, 2007 2:37 pm

vote:YB

Maybe a bit of pressure will help?

YogurtBandit · Post Post #193 (ISO) » Wed Jul 18, 2007 2:57 pm

Rishi wrote:
Guardian wrote:
Guardian wrote:I do want to hear more from YB. YB if you are town, please do try and defend yourself --
you are going to need to write a bit more about why HH was obviously scummy, and why you felt good about hammering Lateralus yesterday.
If you are town, trying hard not to get mislynched here would be great.

Also, if town, I want to know who you are currently suspicious of and why.
Come on mate, I know you can do better than that.
QFT

Well, HH was leaking Tells. Plus, would I bus HH if I was scum and Hammer like this?

Lateralus was not helpful. Regardless, lateralus was scummy, and Annoying + Scummy + Helpless(?) = Lynch.

Crub · Post Post #194 (ISO) » Wed Jul 18, 2007 3:03 pm

YogurtBandit wrote:Well, HH was leaking Tells. Plus, would I bus HH if I was scum and Hammer like this?

Lateralus was not helpful. Regardless, lateralus was scummy, and Annoying + Scummy + Helpless(?) = Lynch.

And how is that different from how you've played?

Rishi · Post Post #195 (ISO) » Wed Jul 18, 2007 3:23 pm

Also, YogurtBandit, you didn't fully answer Guardian's question. Who do you think is currently scum and why? I'm starting to suspect that you're not answering the question because you're the one who is scum and so you have no suspicions.

YogurtBandit · Post Post #196 (ISO) » Wed Jul 18, 2007 3:54 pm

I swear, Im at -1, Anyone who hammers...

I think Rishi is very pro-town, As is Flea.

Guardian and Crub are the remaing, and I think the other is a Power role.

Guardian · Post Post #197 (ISO) » Wed Jul 18, 2007 4:00 pm

unvote: YB

.

I am not interested in a hammer here, actually.

Yogurt, WHAT tells did HH drop, and WHAT made you so sure about Lateralus?

WHY do you find me and Crub scummy? WHY is the other one likely to be a power role, and WHY do you find Rishi and Flea townlike?

I want content from you --

real

content. Go back and quote stuff. Explain what it means to you and why. This will require more than 30 seconds.

If you don't spend the 10 minutes of time it will take to do what I'm requesting and you are town and get lynched, then you have no one but yourself to blame for this, and I will be quite frustrated with you as I am town and want us to win!

Please, do as I ask.

somestrangeflea · Post Post #198 (ISO) » Thu Jul 19, 2007 3:14 am

YB wrote:Lateralus was not helpful.

I agree with this. It was the main reason I voted for him myself! He came into the thread claiming that his main subject was someone who was already dead. This showed that he didn't even make an attempt at reading the thread.

somestrangeflea wrote:Because, Scum or not, he's clearly not paying enough attention to be useful.

That was my reasoning for voting for Lateralus, and I stand by it.

Guardian · Post Post #199 (ISO) » Thu Jul 19, 2007 6:23 am

somestrangeflea wrote:
YB wrote:Lateralus was not helpful.
I agree with this. It was the main reason I voted for him myself! He came into the thread claiming that his main subject was someone who was already dead. This showed that he didn't even make an attempt at reading the thread.

somestrangeflea wrote:Because, Scum or not, he's clearly not paying enough attention to be useful.
That was my reasoning for voting for Lateralus, and I stand by it.

SSF, what's with you and answering questions posed to other people? Nervous scum?

YB, please put doing what I requested as your #1 mafiascum priority if you are town. If you are scum, please put self voting as your #1 priority...