Twin Trap (Game Over) [TM2015]

Mina · Post Post #675 (ISO) » Tue Apr 07, 2015 1:36 pm

WHO NEEDS A TRACKER, ANYWAY?

SHE'LL PROBABLY JUST TRACK PATRICK, AND THEN LIE ABOUT HER RESULT.

BBmolla · Post Post #676 (ISO) » Tue Apr 07, 2015 1:36 pm

In post 673, EspeciallyTheLies wrote:
In post 670, BBmolla wrote:Your flip on Patrick was trash ETL

my flip? do tell. cuz.... I'm pretty sure I was never town reading him.

why aren't you townreading him

BBmolla · Post Post #677 (ISO) » Tue Apr 07, 2015 1:37 pm

And why was Alch "maybe scum" but you've never showed any intereest in his lynch afte rthat?

Ms Marangal · Post Post #678 (ISO) » Tue Apr 07, 2015 1:38 pm

In post 675, Mina wrote:WHO NEEDS A TRACKER, ANYWAY?

SHE'LL PROBABLY JUST TRACK PATRICK, AND THEN LIE ABOUT HER RESULT.

NO I WON'T BECAUSE HE'S GETTING LYNCHED TODAY

EspeciallyTheLies · Post Post #679 (ISO) » Tue Apr 07, 2015 1:38 pm

In post 676, BBmolla wrote:
In post 673, EspeciallyTheLies wrote:
In post 670, BBmolla wrote:Your flip on Patrick was trash ETL

my flip? do tell. cuz.... I'm pretty sure I was never town reading him.

why aren't you townreading him

because he's being a soft waffley pansy while sitting on a leading wagon.

BBmolla · Post Post #680 (ISO) » Tue Apr 07, 2015 1:38 pm

In post 678, Ms Marangal wrote:
In post 675, Mina wrote:WHO NEEDS A TRACKER, ANYWAY?

SHE'LL PROBABLY JUST TRACK PATRICK, AND THEN LIE ABOUT HER RESULT.

NO I WON'T BECAUSE HE'S GETTING LYNCHED TODAY

Patrick · Post Post #681 (ISO) » Tue Apr 07, 2015 1:38 pm

Mina, having seen her do it once, I think she has it in her.

EspeciallyTheLies · Post Post #682 (ISO) » Tue Apr 07, 2015 1:39 pm

In post 677, BBmolla wrote:And why was Alch "maybe scum" but you've never showed any intereest in his lynch afte rthat?

it would help if you actually read my posts bb. I am on a phone and still sick.

BBmolla · Post Post #683 (ISO) » Tue Apr 07, 2015 1:39 pm

It's obviously a Mina/Patrick/Molla scumteam

she got us guys

EspeciallyTheLies · Post Post #684 (ISO) » Tue Apr 07, 2015 1:41 pm

I'm going back to bed. I will be here again tomorrow around 11 am EST. you can wait for that before hammering.

Patrick · Post Post #685 (ISO) » Tue Apr 07, 2015 1:42 pm

Alchemist wrote:Titus is wanting me to sheep Mara on Patrick just because she was confident enough to claim early.

I think Titus is a decent player, and have a hard time thinking she would advise any sheeping of Mara given what Mara has just done.

Alchemist21 · Post Post #686 (ISO) » Tue Apr 07, 2015 1:42 pm

I g2g eat. Since this game has turned into a screaming match, I'm going to assume Mina has intent and claim in case I get hammered before I get back. I'm a VT.

Mara, if you're willing to claim because of your Patrick read, then I want you to give me more explanation for your read, because as it is now I don't see it, and I'm not going to sheep it like Titus wants me to.

Mina · Post Post #687 (ISO) » Tue Apr 07, 2015 1:45 pm

Where is BPC?

Ms Marangal · Post Post #688 (ISO) » Tue Apr 07, 2015 1:46 pm

In post 548, Ms Marangal wrote:
In post 534, Alchemist21 wrote:Oh, ok. I'll let pie keep his meta.

There's still my question about Patrick.

Two top points though, I think he has more of a hand in testing to see how likely you being lynched is and that post where he said he didn't get the feeling that your wagon would turn up town even as he usually feels wagons built in the manner yours was is generally on town

Pedit: nope!

And I didn't see the preview screen

In post 389, Ms Marangal wrote:
In post 344, Mina wrote:I do agree that Mara being off on her own world is a point in her favour, and I like her read on Alchemist came roughly when my doubts were emerging. I also agree with Patrick she's unlikely to be scum with Alchemist21. I don't know if I want to outright clear her, just because Mara's post has some moon-logic leaps I don't follow (Where is the read on serrapaladin coming from her? Why Patrick?), but it's not really a scummy sort of moon-logic.

I am pretty well known for moon logic, and the fact that I am feeling a little cocky might make my stance seen much more so.

Though, the fact that this happened (doubts on alchemist read) is important. Do you really think other competent Hunters are completely unable to see where alchemist is possibly town?

I think, quill is just tunnel visioned, but patrick outright said he couldn't find anything in his posts that could be from town

In post 390, Ms Marangal wrote:And it was around the time I started to defend the hell of him and (from what I understand) is right around the time you had your doubts

Patrick · Post Post #689 (ISO) » Tue Apr 07, 2015 1:47 pm

ETL wrote:because he's being a soft waffley pansy while sitting on a leading wagon

I think this is turning to insults more than anything, but why do you say that? I've given plenty of reads, throughout the game and this evening even as Mara is doing her best to throw. Is literally your only reason for voting me that I gave a kinda lazy read on you? That seems super weak.

BipolarChemist · Post Post #690 (ISO) » Tue Apr 07, 2015 1:48 pm

In post 687, Mina wrote:Where is BPC?

Running a challenge in Survivor

Ms Marangal · Post Post #691 (ISO) » Tue Apr 07, 2015 1:51 pm

In post 311, Patrick wrote:I've seen plenty of games where someone gets wagoned for weak early play, never gets a chance to recover and is lynched, only to flip town. Probably anyone with any experience has. And alot of the time, I find myself hating the herd mentality and the obvious confirmation bias that flies around those day 1 mislynches, as people just paint their target in a scummy light and ignore protown signs or potential protown signs. When I see that from the outside I facepalm, when I'm in the game I often have doubts that the day 1 wagonee is scum, even if I'm on them. I read their posts and often just get a gut feeling they're going to be lynched and flip town.

The thing is, in this game, I don't read Alchemists posts and get a gut feeling that he's going to come back as town. I'm nowhere near certain he's scum, but I definitely don't buy that just talking alot makes him town, which you seem to be implying, Mara. I'd like you to back up that read with something more solid.

Quilford does seem town in his recent posts. I also hate people suspecting me so I can identify with that. Pretty happy that CES and CDB agree with me.

This is probably the most he's done all game and I feel like this post alone is some kind of weird appealing to something and is done to try and get this wagon going without really needing to take responsibility for.it

Quilford · Post Post #692 (ISO) » Tue Apr 07, 2015 1:55 pm

What the fuck just happened?

Patrick · Post Post #693 (ISO) » Tue Apr 07, 2015 1:57 pm

Mara just got herself rated bottom of everyone's lists when the game is over.

Quilford · Post Post #694 (ISO) » Tue Apr 07, 2015 2:02 pm

MARANGAL.

Your ENTIRE case for Alchemist being town isn't that he's SCUMHUNTING CONVINCINGLY or SOUNDING GENUINE or SHOWING LOGICAL AND COMPLEX THOUGHT PROCESSES

it's that he can't be scum because HE IS PLAYING TOO POORLY TO BE SCUM

THATS THE SHITTIEST WIFOM REASON EVER, ESPECIALLY WHEN ALCHEMIST HAS A SCUM META TOTALLING TWO GAMES, AND YOU KNOW IT

SOMEONE

HAMMER

ALCHEMIST.

Mina · Post Post #695 (ISO) » Tue Apr 07, 2015 2:04 pm

I'm waiting for serra to post, Quilford.

Quilford · Post Post #696 (ISO) » Tue Apr 07, 2015 2:10 pm

And Mara

Seriously.

Even if you think Alchemist is town (and I've been wavering of late, just because he's so unimaginably scummy to me that maybe my brain has just snapped somehow; he is literally the source of my strongest scumread in maybe 3 years, or even more), you can at least acknowledge that with so much of the game scumreading him to some extent, and your own reasons for him being town being so weak and wifomy, he is a fantastic lynch for today.

Patrick · Post Post #697 (ISO) » Tue Apr 07, 2015 2:14 pm

I have to go to bed. It's past 2am and I haven't been so pissed off in a long time. If alchemist tries to use his last post to transition onto me, he should be killed with fire immediately.

Alchemist21 · Post Post #698 (ISO) » Tue Apr 07, 2015 2:27 pm

In post 697, Patrick wrote:I have to go to bed. It's past 2am and I haven't been so pissed off in a long time. If alchemist tries to use his last post to transition onto me, he should be killed with fire immediately.

@Quilford @Patrick

Have you guys played with Titus before? She thinks you guys sound like you have, but she doesn't remember either of you unless there were alts.

Quilford · Post Post #699 (ISO) » Tue Apr 07, 2015 2:39 pm

I thought I had, but was confusing her with TheWayItEnds.

Why does she ask?