Twin Trap (Game Over) [TM2015]

[Ms Marangal]

I do agree that Mara being off on her own world is a point in her favour, and I like her read on Alchemist came roughly when my doubts were emerging. I also agree with Patrick she's unlikely to be scum with Alchemist21. I don't know if I want to outright clear her, just because Mara's post has some moon-logic leaps I don't follow (Where is the read on serrapaladin coming from her? Why Patrick?), but it's not really a scummy sort of moon-logic.

I am pretty well known for moon logic, and the fact that I am feeling a little cocky might make my stance seen much more so.

Though, the fact that this happened (doubts on alchemist read) is important. Do you really think other competent Hunters are completely unable to see where alchemist is possibly town?

I think, quill is just tunnel visioned, but patrick outright said he couldn't find anything in his posts that could be from town

Ok, not exactly a question, but this was a statement on why he was scum and that idea came from the same post you linked and.thought was town

[Alchemist21]

Mara, could you please respond to me on:

-what your team has said a little more specifically (and not just about me but all players they've discussed)

-if you think Patrick is scummy or just less Towny than others

[BipolarChemist]

Posting for post's sake. Busy busy will be here tonight!

[Quilford]

Prod dodge. Will talk soon.

[BBmolla]

I'm pretty ready to lynch Alch btw

[BipolarChemist]

I hate to do this but I'm skipping out tonight too Too much came up

[zoraster]

Day 1

*** Alchemist21 ( 4 ) ***

Patrick

Quilford

BBMolla

Serrapaladin

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(L - 1 )

Mina ( 1 )

BipolarChemist

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(L - 4 )

Patrick ( 2 )

Ms Marangal

EspeciallyTheLies

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(L - 3 )

Quilford ( 1 )

Alchemist21

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(L - 4 )

Not Voting ( 1 )

Mina

Total Votes ( 9 )

Needed to Lynch [ 5 ]

Deadline: April 14th at 20:00 EDT
(expired on 2015-04-14 20:00:00)

ETL and serra will now be prodded

[serrapaladin]

Alch is still scum. Mina is probably the other. I'll properly get to this tonight.

[Mina]

*pokes game*

Sorry I'm being so useless--I'm sort of stressed by a bunch of things, and Mafia exacerbates that, so I don't really have the resolve right now to do one of the maybe three things that would shake up this game.

p-edit: just checking. Am I'm scum because I "didn't integrate my teammates' reads with my own", or is there more than that? Do you genuinely think that's the strongest piece of evidence out there right now?

[Alchemist21]

I see people are still recovering from their Easter hangovers.

[EspeciallyTheLies]

Prod received. I'm here. sorry. I should have declared V/LA. I've been sick with strep and out of work (where I do all my posting). going back to work tomorrow.

[Patrick]

This page makes a very sorry sight.

Mara: Is there anything to your serra town read apart from his response to you initially? To me his behaviour on alchemist roughly sums up what you're voting me for, so can you flesh that out a bit when you get back.

Mina: Are you weighing up alchemist and serrapaladin in your mind? If it were up to you alone, which one would you rather lynch?

[Mina]

Though, the fact that this happened (doubts on alchemist read) is important. Do you really think other competent Hunters are completely unable to see where alchemist is possibly town

I'm just rephrasing what Patrick already said, but since you wanted me to weigh in, he obviously didn't mean that Alchemist had no chance of being town. He outright said that he's not 100% sure Alchemist is scum. I certainly don't think Alch is obvtown by any means (it's more "he's not obvscum"). If Alch had made Quilford-style reads posts, then his not having doubts would be different.

@Patrick: I realize I'm just being really, really wishy-washy now and my thoughts are all muddled and inconsistent, which is part of why I'm not posting. Alchemist doesn't look anywhere near as town as most, and I had almost worked up the courage to threaten a hammer after his really, really superficial and garbage BBmolla PBPA. But then even though his Quilford case sucked, it felt somewhat more genuine, and had the part about ABR coming in and declaring Quilford town and me scum....now when I write this out, I realize that these are kind of shitty reasons. And then the game died when he was at L-1, which made me paranoid. (And then he asked Mara a question, which means he's scumhunting, so of course that means I shouldn't hammer him! (I wish I was making this up.)) Also, now I have a mystery third suspect (who I still wouldn't lynch over Alch/serra).

But I'd probably lynch serrapaladin if I were alone (as in, ignoring both the rest of the town AND my teammates). Except I could be blinded by OMGUS + maybe he'll wow me with his catch-ups tonight... Argh.

Um...do people mind if I just...not take any stances whatsoever for the next little bit until I do some meta research?

[Mina]

THERE GOES MY SANITY.

[BBmolla]

K I'm done with today

VOTE: Alchemist

scumflip inc

[Mina]

Sometimes, I feel like I've become a parody of myself. It's terrifying.

I'm just rephrasing what Patrick already said, but since you wanted me to weigh in, he obviously didn't mean that Alchemist had no chance of being town. He outright said that he's not 100% sure Alchemist is scum. I certainly don't think Alch is obvtown by any means (it's more "he's not obvscum"). If Alch had made Quilford-style reads posts, then his not having doubts would be different.

Don't think I worded this correctly. If Alch had responded to pressure with Quilford-style fuzzy-bunny posts, then Patrick going, "he really doesn't look that particularly townish" would bug me. I feel like Alch's reaction is a lot more grey here--he's posting a lot and hits the right notes occasionally, but not in an obvtown way.

p-edit: why would you do that? Maybe he was going to claim a role! Fuck.

[Mina]

Part of me is almost relieved it was taken out of my hands. Well, it was an inevitabilty.

[BBmolla]

didn't he claim?

oops

[BBmolla]

well fingers crossed

[Mina]

I'm sorry if you're town, Alchemist.

But not if you're scum.

ETL/serra, do you want to get your thoughts out before the game goes to night?

[Ms Marangal]

Hammer without a claim is a policy lynch. No exceptions.

[EspeciallyTheLies]

didn't he claim?

oops

well fingers crossed

after this? when I said I'd be back tomorrow? what do you think?

Mina town. quil maybe not town. Patrick not town but something someone said makes me think I'm gut reading. bb not town. bpc maybe town. I'm missing people.

fuckk. I've got my eye on bb at the moment.

[Alchemist21]

Nice fakehammer. molla's already on my wagon.

[Ms Marangal]

Mara: Is there anything to your serra town read apart from his response to you initially? To me his behaviour on alchemist roughly sums up what you're voting me for, so can you flesh that out a bit when you get back

Not really no, but tomorrow I am probably gonna vote.park on molla the entire day

[Alchemist21]

BB fooled all the wrong people.