8:4 Vanilla Nightless [TM2015] - GAME OVER

[Hoopla]

You were willing to sheep me with your vote and you have no ideas on my alignment? O.O

i think you're playing a protown game, and are the player i trust most to lead late-game scenarios. so, i'd have you as mild town right now.

[GreyICE]

Great, but you have a stronger town read on ABR apparently. You just said you trust me more in late game scenarios, and this is early game.

So why sheep me on Kagami, and not ABR on Sotty? Especially since you're suspicious of Sotty "buddying" you.

[Sotty7]

Sotty, why is Zar town? Also, I'm going to quote a Metal Sonic game on my next post: could you give it a quick glance-through and tell me why you think his content there is guided by stronger logic than his content here?

Zar is a weaker town due to lack of STUFF, but I was basking in the glow of Empire's towniness. He's basically there because I don't have another super strong town read at this point. I agree he needs to be more engaged.

Zar, I'm pretty sure I hydra'd with Zach in some form of a Wire game, I don't strictly remember. So not only is your meta probably out dated (Unemployed then not now = less time to thread sit) but is also diluted with Zachrulez meta who has a much better town game than I. I don't remember us having played in many games together so your meta point is junk. Aren't all posts "self aware"? I'm not sure what exactly you mean when you bring that up as a point against me, feels like filler. Also just because we don't agree on GreyICE doesn't make me scum. In other words elaborate more on what I have actually done.

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Vote: sotty

I've mulled things over. All things considered, I still want a Hoopla lynch; her being scum is a sure thing for me at this point. But I figure that's something we can do in the future, I think.

Here's my concise rationale for my vote. No way are GreyICE and Kagami scum together; same with GreyICE and sotty. A scumflip from either of them means a cleared GreyICE. The reason I want sotty over Kagami is that sotty-scum almost certainly implicates Kagami but vice versa does not hold up as well. Sotty is actually distancing away from Kagami's defense and the subsequent smackdown with GreyICE in some of her posts, as she does not respond to them at all. (Take a look back thru ISO) I could imagine Kagami as scum trying to start noise to defend her scumbuddy and push the wagon onto GreyICE. Frankly, this is not something I would expect Kagami to do unless they were scum together or Kagami was town. I can explain this more if people want but I don't have time now.

Seraphim is still squirming. Moves his vote back on me and claims I'm distancing from Kagami's defense when I pretty much out and out agreed with it. Kagami seems to be the only person willing to see what I see when it came to early GreyICE play. Slips in the heard mentality RE: Kagami. Has there been a popular wagon that Seraphim hasn't to try to have a taste on? (Hint: The answer is no)

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Vote: sotty

The Kagami and Eddie slots need more time. Nacho I feel should be more town than he currently is, same with Hoopla. That's from past experience, but it's enough to keep them off the town list. While I don't necessarily agree with GreyICE's initial attack on sotty for various reasons, I do think her play has been less than stellar as it only includes a 1v1 with GreyICE and has really only been reactive play. I'm not seeing any significant scumhunting, only arguments back and forth. Her vote on me reeks, seems like she did it because it was the new hip-happening thing to be doing.

I'm scum for going 1v1 with GreyICE
I'm scum for not going 1v1 with GreyICE

We're going to lynch Hoopla over

this

?

[Albert B. Rampage]

If you don't vote Hoopla right now you're next on the list.

[Hoopla]

Great, but you have a stronger town read on ABR apparently.

I don't remember saying anything about his alignment. I think his influence on the game is likely to be toxic regardless of his alignment, but he's not really worth lynching -- so you kinda need to work around his parameters to get anything done as town.

[GreyICE]

That's not a read on either Sotty or Kagami.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Hoopla is a cancer on this game. Dead weight we are dragging around. Now that she's in danger, she posts about alignments for the first time, without any indication of having actually reading the game. Why don't you replace out of your slot instead of making this pathetic contribution, if you can't get your head into this game? No, because you're scum and want to win while town votes itself.

[wgeurts]

Driving home, will be back in a few hours.

[Metal Sonic]

Aww that's cute.

Can you hammer?

[GreyICE]

Please just hammer. This isn't a good lynch, it's a necessary one.

ABR, I will sheep you to fuck and back tomorrow if she's scum, but if she's town this is a blatant distraction from the Kagami wagon, which was a fucking justice wagon.

[GreyICE]

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Vote Hoopla

Alright ABR, based on the flip here, where next? Hoopla-Town flip gets us?? Hoopla scum flip gets us??

Like this. Flies in from fucking nowhere. Says nothing about Kagami except his sad soft defense. Has said nothing about the big ugly turd that is Kagami's reads list, because the only fucking way scum can deal with that list is ignore it, because it is a giant middle finger to the entire game.

Or Seraphim. Just Seraphim.

[wgeurts]

Who am I hammering?

[GreyICE]

Hoopla. She's done literally nothing to deserve to be alive in this game.

[wgeurts]

Nevermind I guess it's hoopla, what's caused her to get lynched and not kagami?

[GreyICE]

ISO her and cry.

[wgeurts]

She's going to flip town, that wagon went way to fast. Also, ABR saying it's scummy that she's only know posting alignment indicative content and that's scummy is wrong. She either starts being useful now and will be called scummy by ABR or doesn't and gets lynched for be useless.
We shouldn't be policy lynching, this wagon reeks of a quick compromise lynch. None of my town reads besides MS who I'm not sure of are on it.

[GreyICE]

If me and ABR aren't town reads, you are reading a different game.

It's possible, although somewhat unlikely, that the wagon is entirely town. Speed is not necessarily a reason to dismiss it either - there's literally no basis from her play to say that she's town, outside of "wagon speed"

[Hoopla]

She's going to flip town, that wagon went way to fast.

who is the scum on my wagon?

[wgeurts]

Eddie, Seraphim and those likes don't sit well though. Isn't sotty on this wagon as well?

[wgeurts]

VOTE: Hoopla
This isn't going to be what I want however it's going to happen anyway with someone hammering.

[Hoopla]

i endorse seraphim and eddie wagons tomorrow.

[wgeurts]

We could of recieved

a lot

more alignment indicative information by lynching kagami. Hoopla's had little to no interaction with people.

@ICE, you and ABR are town. It's the others I'm wary of. It's impossible for an all scum wagon.

[wgeurts]

Hoopla, thank you for saying that after I killed you.
Honestly, what's your alignment?

[Hoopla]

town. i'm surprised that people genuinely thought i could be scum here...

[wgeurts]

Well fudge.
I'm going to have to catch up.