In post 409, Thor665 wrote: In post 403, jasonT1981 wrote:This is almost as bad as Fenchurch post I pointed out. Either I am lacking in hunting or pushing?
Sure?
Not sure what you're saying, really.
In post 403, jasonT1981 wrote:I am going after my scum reads, and who I think is scum. Not who I think is weakest.
Question: who do you think is the weakest player here and why?
Refusing to discuss it tends to strongly suggest that at least one of you went scum though.
In post 403, jasonT1981 wrote:If you will read back my reasons for voting boon are more than just playstyle.
Like which?
What I voted you for initially - the unvote and immediate reactions thereafter.
this post is, put bluntly, completely pointless. none of these questions are particularly good, nor make that much sense for town pushing on a scum read to even ask.
the 2nd question. you're asking jason who he thinks the weakest player in the game is. what exactly is the point of this? how will jason answering *insert any answer here* tell you anything at all about his alignment? this doesn't have anything to do with what jason's angle actually is - which is that he is pushing people without regard to how weak or strong they are, not that he's going to magically avoid pushing a player just because he thinks they're weak.
re: 3rd question: why would scum jason need to be facetious about this? yes, it says one of the people may have went scum. OK. are you actually pushing this as a reason for thinking jason is scum? he would say that regardless of what his alignment in this game actually is.
I don't understand what the point of the 4th question is either. first off, I think it's pretty apparent jason has reasons for Boon being scum that aren't based on playstyle - ex. the part where he jumps on the jason wagon after declaring he had no scum reads before - but regardless, are you actually going to argue that jason providing good, non-playstyle reasons for Boon being scum here would in any way affect your read on him? this question isn't relevant to anything. you would not be nitpicking on details like this if you were town here. if you were town, you would actually give a shit about getting an answer from him on why he supposedly has "no hunting", or breaking apart the reasoning behind the Boon push and explaining *why* it's bad instead of just calling all of it "playstyle", as opposed to spending all your time commenting on random bullshit like this.
I don't see you actually asking jason about anything that's alignment-relevant here, or any of your other posts, really. none of what you're asking here adds anything to the game. they are questions designed to look like you're scum hunting, when you are, in fact, just sitting around doing fuck all. all I'm getting from this is that you're creating noise that distracts and hoping the jason lynch goes through without anyone noticing your reasoning for him being scum is weak at best.
and yes, before anyone asks, I am more than aware of Thor's reputation for writing massive walls and getting into debates over specifics. I think Thor is scum specifically because of *what* he is asking about here.
In post 381, Thor665 wrote:It's a few little things, really, but the concise description would be; overaware RVS, paired with lack of hunting, paired with sudden push on whom I perceive as the weakest player available to push in the game, paired with no actual argument for that case beyond playstyle, paired with the token thing.
this is essentially a tl;dr of your jason read.
first off, you're still calling jason scum for something he did in RVS on page fucking ......... 19? and there isn't a compelling reason it couldn't have been awkward-town instead of awkward-scum, either.
second off, this, again, betrays a contradictory mindset in your posts. these are your reasons for scum reading him. so,
WHY HAVE NONE OF THE QUESTIONS YOU'VE ASKED HIM THIS GAME HAD ANYTHING TO DO WITH ANY OF THESE THINGS?
the only time I saw a question that was actually relevant here was the one about Boon in the previous post, but you didn't go out of your way to ask it (instead asking it in response to jason directly calling you on it) and still have not explained specifically *why* you actually think jason's Boon push is bad.
all the questions you're asking here are out of place for someone who supposedly believes their reasons for thinking someone is scum. I would expect a town player to spend more effort specifically breaking down jason's posts here and asking questions that are directly relevant to what jason is actually doing, as opposed to this.
the STD push is more of the same. Thor is asking a bunch of questions that don't serve to accomplish anything or are otherwise entirely irrelevant, without doing anything that actually has town motivation. his STD read at the end of all this is - as far as I can tell, because it's fucking impossible to tell exactly what he thinks is scummy here - essentially still that STD is scum because his push didn't actually point out anything scum indicative and was entirely playstyle, but again, he doesn't elaborate on specifically *why* STD's push is bad and most of the questions he asks read more like he's just commenting on stuff for the sake of it. ex, in
381 he starts going on a tangent on STD's DW read and it's tedious to read/follow because it's not relevant to anything, nor does it have anything to do with what the reasoning behind his read on STD actually is.
I could keep breaking down Thor's posts and explaining why the rest of his posts are more of the same, but I think this is a pretty good indication of why I'm at where I'm at with him and it'd be pretty pointless for me to just repeat the same thing over and over.
