Dance of the Title Fairy: Pale Moonlight Edition

[Oversoul]

Can someone remind me of the existential point of having a title fairy?

[Untrod Tripod]

there's no point to anything, dude

[Oversoul]

Ok, Lebowski

[Oversoul]

I only ask because in situations like this, the role seems fairly pointless

[Untrod Tripod]

the entire concept of a "point" is just a social construct

enjoy the ride

[Untrod Tripod]

Ok, Lebowski

I'm not Lebowski, man, I'm The Dude.

[InflatablePie]

Ok, Lebowski

I'm not Lebowski, man, I'm The Dude.

that's totally, like, your opinion, man.

(this is on netflix, I should probably watch it)

[Untrod Tripod]

shut the fuck up Pie you're out of your element

[SleepyKrew]

(this is on netflix, I should probably watch it)

Watching it right now ^_^

[Untrod Tripod]

You want a title? I can get you a title, believe me. There are ways, Pie. You don't wanna know about it, believe me.

I can get you a title by 3 o clock this afternoon

with color

[InflatablePie]

The Dude A-pies

[Oversoul]

I only bring this up because I don't actually see the Title Fairy as active as SK supposedly says it should be. TBM and Oman were good in my opinion because it was more a bureaucratic process than an application for acceptance that it seems to be now. Sure they gave opinions on titles but I don't actually think they rejected many titles, the community did that for them. SK is taking on a more active role when in my opinion, this isn't about SK's preferences - it is about the community's. If you want to think about it in terms of percentages I think it's 85% us and 10% SK, 5% mith.

SK's primary job is to maintain the process, so that titles fit the criteria of the first post.
It isn't SK's job to reject titles outright. If it is, the whole selection process for title fairy is messed up. SK was not elected, he didn't even have to apply to the greater administrative team for this position. TBM saw a way out and took it. If there was an application where a person's preferences matter, their overall tastes in culture, humor, and art would need to be taken into account. That did not occur.
The community chooses the titles, the community discusses the titles, it's only fair that the community should be able to administer the
titles. SK's active role thus far removed the community aspect of the entire process. The community is the only reason this thread,
position, and issue exists.

So everyone should take a step back and realize what this whole Title Fairy thing is about. It's not subjecting personal taste of titles on us, it's trying to incorporate everyone's taste into a good title.

[Untrod Tripod]

Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man.

[Shadoweh]

I thought the entire point of having a Title Fairy instead of setting your own title was for the Fairy to make decisions about what titles were appropriate after nominations. It's literally SK's job to reject titles outright if he doesn't think they're appropriate.

[Klazam]

[kanyeknowsbest]

i wish ppl woudl get this mad about all the unjustly banned boys instead of something dumb like titles.

[TheButtonmen]

I only bring this up because I don't actually see the Title Fairy as active as SK supposedly says it should be. TBM and Oman were good in my opinion because it was more a bureaucratic process than an application for acceptance that it seems to be now. Sure they gave opinions on titles but I don't actually think they rejected many titles, the community did that for them. SK is taking on a more active role when in my opinion, this isn't about SK's preferences - it is about the community's. If you want to think about it in terms of percentages I think it's 85% us and 10% SK, 5% mith.

SK's primary job is to maintain the process, so that titles fit the criteria of the first post.
It isn't SK's job to reject titles outright. If it is, the whole selection process for title fairy is messed up. SK was not elected, he didn't even have to apply to the greater administrative team for this position. TBM saw a way out and took it. If there was an application where a person's preferences matter, their overall tastes in culture, humor, and art would need to be taken into account. That did not occur.
The community chooses the titles, the community discusses the titles, it's only fair that the community should be able to administer the
titles. SK's active role thus far removed the community aspect of the entire process. The community is the only reason this thread,
position, and issue exists.

So everyone should take a step back and realize what this whole Title Fairy thing is about. It's not subjecting personal taste of titles on us, it's trying to incorporate everyone's taste into a good title.

I elected him to lead, not to read.

[xRECKONERx]

I thought the entire point of having a Title Fairy instead of setting your own title was for the Fairy to make decisions about what titles were appropriate after nominations. It's literally SK's job to reject titles outright if he doesn't think they're appropriate.

In general, no title fairy has been hands on like this. The Title Fairy is a ceremonial position. They're there to enact the will of the community while stepping in only when absolutely appropriate. Outright rejecting titles that have community support with no room for discussion is not how a TF should act imo

[TheButtonmen]

I thought the entire point of having a Title Fairy instead of setting your own title was for the Fairy to make decisions about what titles were appropriate after nominations. It's literally SK's job to reject titles outright if he doesn't think they're appropriate.

In general, no title fairy has been hands on like this. The Title Fairy is a ceremonial position. They're there to enact the will of the community while stepping in only when absolutely appropriate. Outright rejecting titles that have community support with no room for discussion is not how a TF should act imo

Citation needed.

[Tierce]

I thought the entire point of having a Title Fairy instead of setting your own title was for the Fairy to make decisions about what titles were appropriate after nominations. It's literally SK's job to reject titles outright if he doesn't think they're appropriate.

In general, no title fairy has been hands on like this. The Title Fairy is a ceremonial position. They're there to enact the will of the community while stepping in only when absolutely appropriate. Outright rejecting titles that have community support with no room for discussion is not how a TF should act imo

Citation needed.

Adding citation [3], an exchange about what

is

the Title Fairy job as seen by the community. They've been plenty hands-on and you only need to look at the two most recent TFs' ISOs (or at some of the rejection posts TheButtonmen and Oman did, if ISOs are too long) to see that.

[Shadoweh]

Surprisingly there isn't a rule to stop the same title from getting nommed over and over. Maybe three strikes and you're out?

[Natirasha]

I always see Titles more as a expression of notoriety on the site, as someone who did something/is noteworthy on the site.

So I disagree with the assumption that we shouldn't have a vetting process for the titles.

(although I do also think, especially as someone in that position, that there are quite a few of veteran members who fill the needs, but because the one event hasn't happened, doesn't have a title)

[Papa Zito]

Surprisingly there isn't a rule to stop the same title from getting nommed over and over. Maybe three strikes and you're out?

i c wut u did thar

[Aneninen]

Am I the only one who doesn't understand the point of the fight going on?

[Flameaxe]

^That basically^