8:4 Vanilla Nightless [TM2015] - GAME OVER

[Hoopla]

VOTE: silverwolf

[EddieFenix]

Alright, why are you voting Silverwolf, Hoopla?

[Hoopla]

i want to help nachomamma while i'm still getting engaged in the game. lets create some sexy wagons.

[Metal Sonic]

I have mixed feelings about the above

[GreyICE]

Holy hell.

[EddieFenix]

umm dude I don't actually think you can talk about the theMe game

Given it's public information, not going to ignore it. There's no tokens in the current version, so it's not like it gives away anything about current alignments.

Has anyone played with Eddie before? Is he always this lazy?

Firstly, not lazy so don't even try to pull that crap. Especially when 26 hours hadn't even passed within the game before you were squawking for a prod on someone who posted within the first 26 hours of the game. Twice. Add to the fact that your posts have been mostly fluff, and you get a very, VERY hungry me.

Secondly, quit trying to be all, "look at me, I'm active! Look how town I am with my activity!!! Look how lazy he is!!!" You just add fuel to the fire.

Thirdly, drop the token discussion, it's completely pointless at this point. In your 17 posts, it has been the focus of it in 4-5. While you have bullshit in about... 9 or more of those 17 posts? If the collective group iso's the two (Sotty and GreyIce) you'll see quite the difference.

[GreyICE]

You didn't bother to read past the first line of the post dude. That's just sad. That's just completely and utterly sad.

It's like bargain basement benmage.

[Metal Sonic]

the above is inflammatory

[Hoopla]

Secondly, quit trying to be all, "look at me, I'm active! Look how town I am with my activity!!! Look how lazy he is!!!" You just add fuel to the fire.

i agree with this.

i'm hoping for a relaxed fun time with friends. i don't think adding pressure to the quality/quantity information individuals are producing is useful -- it harms the cohesion of the town.

[EddieFenix]

You didn't bother to read past the first line of the post dude. That's just sad. That's just completely and utterly sad.

It's like bargain basement benmage.

I read that entire post, and you're assuming things. That's what's sad. Completely and utterly sad.

[Metal Sonic]

Secondly, quit trying to be all, "look at me, I'm active! Look how town I am with my activity!!! Look how lazy he is!!!" You just add fuel to the fire.

i agree with this.

i'm hoping for a relaxed fun time with friends. i don't think adding pressure to the quality/quantity information individuals are producing is useful -- it harms the cohesion of the town.

I agree with the general sentiment of this. But because this is a competition of sorts, I want to play my best (or what I think is my best).

Also I think that Eddie's posts have all been quite town and I would like GreyICE to take 1 step back.

[Metal Sonic]

Sonic post of the day 2

That means I disagree!

He said that normally clashes end in the mislynch of either wgeurts or ABR. Why do you think scum-wg thinks he can clash with town-ABR and win?

Provoking him out of his playstyle was making a concentrated effort to read him so that he didn't accidentally mislynch him again, which is a fine continuation of thought from the original read.

I'm looking at the trajectory of his read on you now.

Let us assume that wgeurts is a competent player. (Note: I did half an hour's worth of metadiving in wgeurts. Although as town, he is very good as being obvious town, and rarely gets lynched late-game, most of the town games that he is in results in losses.)

It would be in scum-wg's best interests to emulate him town meta as far as possible, for obvious reasons. In this context, if town-wg and town ABR clashes and results in the mislynch of town ABR, by following town meta, scum-wg would be able to clash with town ABR and have the same effect. There could be a "oops! I did it again" mentality, I mean, nobody expects you to be scum if you mislynch him, because you did it as town. Two birds with one stone.

ZZZX, Empire and Nacho are all town.
ABR my gut says is town.
MS I'm taking others words for him being town until I see him giving some content that says otherwise.

This isn't a strong townread.

This is a waffle. "He may be town but he may not be town".

Metal Sonic: You can't just ignore a player because you frequently clash with them. Other than that, I don't see too many points.

I do that. If I think someone is scum, their words automatically are less credible to me. Why? Because if I'm right, then their words are toxic and should be ignored. If I'm wrong, WHOOPS.


On another note, "You can't just ignore a player because you frequently clash with them. " is a misrepresentation. "Frequently clash" suggests that I am ignoring a player because of playstyle reasons or meta reasons. GreyICE is suggesting that my issue with wgeurts is based on playstyle and meta? I only recall playing with wgeurts once, and that was in a bastard micro. By nature, it is useless meta.

I think Team Mafia is bringing out the wordy, and not sure I'm loving it.

Yeah, the purpose of these posts are to be wordy. Inspired by Nachomamma8's and Empire's "post less so that 'legendary scumhunters' can read more." I can be more concise. Just ask for an abridged version.

I haven't seen wgeurts dissect the game, pick it apart and isolate scum. If anything, he appears to be playing in his own sandbox, reacting to players who affect him, whether by reputation or by content in this game.

I'm glad someone else sees this. Shallow scumhunting. It's one of my two main points against wgeurts.

Meanwhile, wgeurts is like that guilty defendant, yelling to the prosecutor lawyer "You're lying! The prosecution is lying! False evidence! Help me!!!!!"

I don't buy this in the slightest.

What would you buy?

I'm not sure where you're going with this line of questioning. If the global policy is "Lynch all Liars", then fine, you've got a lynch on me. If you're a lie detector in this game, then congratulations, you've got a guilty. Unfortunately, none of those cases are true in this context. Why don't you explain to us the significance "after-the-fact rationalization"?

Assuming what you're saying about your team wanting to keep it a secret is true, why not just flat out say "my team does not want to discuss token assignments"?

When my contradiction isn't pointed out, it saves explanation. You know, like those annoying salesmen. Or perhaps when someone asks for your age and you say that you're some age even though your birthday hasn't actually passed yet.

Even if you don't know, that's irrelevant.

They were not on that list because I didn't have reads on them.

Why didn't you have a read on wgeurts, 2nd highest postcount in the game? What exactly was your read on me, it wasn't very clear except for some description about my mythomania.

Empire replaced out, I guess we'll never know.

I'd be a dirty dirty liar.

I'm a dirty dirty liar then !

I'll shred every sentence to dust.

Spoiler: This is how I slice

Spoiler: This is how you slice

Titus says that she's sure that MS is town as well.

Send my regards to Titus. Hope she's doing well in her game. <3

Metal Sonic (still gives me a headache)

Go take some aspirin. No idea who you are.

SCUM
Eddie (don't like posting)
SilverWolf (agree w/ ABR)

And you probably are the one giving us the headache with such garbage reasoning.

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Everything is up to date.

[Metal Sonic]

late-game

*early-game.

This is how I slice*

*shred.

Whoops! Looks like I'm not reading your posts after all! Sue me.

[ZZZX]

Its time for a freakkin readin' list

Scummiest V
EddieFenix (The Leftovers)

Scummy overall imho. Gut feelingwise

GreyICE (TBD)

He is just leaning scum for the reasons I gave before. also his lynch is quite informative. I will put you up here for now.

Hoopla (Confectionery Animals)

I dont like your posts so far

Sotty7 (The Kliq)

Same as metal

Nachomamma8 (Gestalt)

null... I am not sure about you

Seraphim (The Unviggable Vegetables)

Do you even exist this game?

Silverwolf (The Hitmen)

Null & void

Empire (The Westeros Circlejerk)

Townish but I am not sure about your scum/town play so ... yea

Albert B. Rampage (Blue, Meth, Blade and Associates)

towny intentions+wge's posts

Metal Sonic (team nocaps)

If Grey is town then there is a not-so-bad chance of scum-metal otherwise hes just sonic

wgeurts (Young and Beautiful)

Towniest piece of town so far.

ZZZX (TEAM WITH NO NAME)

OM GAD THIS IS ME

Towniest^

[Metal Sonic]

why is wgeurts town can you please get Gif to explain.


Even if wgeurts is town I think he might cause the game to lose anyway


I should stop being a dirty, dirty liar:

I truly think that wgeurts scum at best, and even if town, his play is weak to the point of being a liability. I think that he should swap with a teammate to keep the "obvious town" status that some of you are giving him, before he begins to derail the town.

[Metal Sonic]

And with that, I have turned from a dirty dirty liar to a rude, insensitive and offensive liar!

Hooray...

[EddieFenix]

I also would like ZZZX to go deeper on his scum read on me. The why especially.

[Metal Sonic]

He said "gutfeelingwise"

I'm reading it as "no good reason".

[ZZZX]

He said "gutfeelingwise"

I'm reading it as "no good reason".

just how i feel.

[wgeurts]

Metal Sonic, I take your recent posts on me as a challenge. I'm going to noe actually "shred" every sentence in the 2-3 posts that changed my read on you and I'm going to make sure I'm no "liability" so at the end of the game I can sit smugly.
The whole "you suck" also would be expected from scum, why?
Well I've already shown you're lying and have no actual content reasoning for pushing me. So you've resorted to attacking the player instead of his content. The post suggesting I swap out makes it seem you just want me PL'd. It almost seems as if you're not certain I'm scum, which I'm not and you as scum would know that.
I'm phoneposting but once I'm on a PC expect all you've said to be heavily scrutinised. All the falsified reasoning will be "shredded"

[ZZZX]

Ika tells me this inactivity is a huge scum-tell of SW. unless SW comes and does something my vote is going to SW.
VOTE: SW

[Metal Sonic]

Metal Sonic, I take your recent posts on me as a challenge. I'm going to noe actually "shred" every sentence in the 2-3 posts that changed my read on you and I'm going to make sure I'm no "liability" so at the end of the game I can sit smugly.
The whole "you suck" also would be expected from scum, why?
Well I've already shown you're lying and have no actual content reasoning for pushing me. So you've resorted to attacking the player instead of his content. The post suggesting I swap out makes it seem you just want me PL'd. It almost seems as if you're not certain I'm scum, which I'm not and you as scum would know that.
I'm phoneposting but once I'm on a PC expect all you've said to be heavily scrutinised. All the falsified reasoning will be "shredded"

I accept your challenge.

[ZZZX]

METAL AND WGE. STOP. とまれ!(translates to: stop in hiragana) This is pointless and only helping scum

Love...(and hate)

ZZZX

[wgeurts]

So you think MS is town?

[SilverWolf]

FYI: I'm V/LA in all my games and am being replaced in this one. RL situation has made in impossible for me to play here. My team is getting a replacement.