Open 29 - C9+2 (~GAME OVER~) before 470

Mert · Post Post #150 (ISO) » Mon Jul 16, 2007 7:11 am

AmeliaLi has requested a replacement. Looking now.

Mert · Post Post #151 (ISO) » Mon Jul 16, 2007 7:50 am

Guardian replaces AmeliaLi, effective immediately.

Guardian · Post Post #152 (ISO) » Mon Jul 16, 2007 7:55 am

Send me my role your mudkip!

Hi Crub, YB, and ssf! I love you all so I replaced in :mregreen:. Rishi, I am sure I will come to love you in time

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ps: Mert, I love you too

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somestrangeflea · Post Post #153 (ISO) » Mon Jul 16, 2007 8:07 am

So...

Plan?

Guardian · Post Post #154 (ISO) » Mon Jul 16, 2007 8:08 am

Well, I am thinking YB. His hammer yesterday reeked of scumminess, and he was all too sure that HH was scum.

Guardian · Post Post #155 (ISO) » Mon Jul 16, 2007 8:11 am

Yeah, I don't know my role yet, but

vote: YB

seems like it can't be a bad decision.

Rishi · Post Post #156 (ISO) » Mon Jul 16, 2007 8:16 am

I think, simply based on the voting patterns, that we have to look at AmeliaLi/Guardian as possible scum. She didn't jump on the Honary Hitchhiker bandwagon, but did jump on the Lateralus bandwagon. This is why it's a shame that AmeliaLi had to drop out of the game. Guardian obviously can't get inside her head and reveal her thought patterns.

Crub is looking super-town at this moment, just based on his votes. He voted for Honary Hitchhiker and did not vote for Lateralus.

In any case, I think the Day 2 lynch went WAY too fast. Let's slow it down a bit and talk this over. But, the good news is we are NOT in a lynch-or-lose situation.

After Guardian, my chief suspect would be YogurtBandit, mostly because of the reasons that Guardian pointed out. I get the feeling that somestrangeflea is pro-town in this game.

Anyway, as I said, let's talk this over and try to make an informed lynch. This could be a very tricky endgame if we don't get the scum now.

somestrangeflea · Post Post #157 (ISO) » Mon Jul 16, 2007 8:16 am

Hmm...

YB was all too willing to quicklynch yesterday, I think it's time for a little payback...

Vote: YogurtBandit

Open up. Swallow. How does that taste? Well, you better like it, it's your own medicine...

Guardian · Post Post #158 (ISO) » Mon Jul 16, 2007 8:24 am

Yeah, I think if YB isn't scum, it is probably Rishi (or me, lol, I still have no role PM yet. I am playing assuming that I am town...). Crub and ssf seem town like.

I think I am town, from my read -- AmeliaLi seemed town to me. If I get a scum role PM I will be quite surprised.

Rishi · Post Post #159 (ISO) » Mon Jul 16, 2007 8:27 am

Uh... what happened to slowing down? Let's at least wait for Guardian to get his role PM. I just want to be fair to him. For all we know, he could be a doctor or cop.

Guardian · Post Post #160 (ISO) » Mon Jul 16, 2007 8:29 am

Rishi -- that is true actually.

unvote

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I don't think anyone wanted to slow down besides you.

However, SSF's quick vote two and willingness to follow me is making me wonder...

somestrangeflea · Post Post #161 (ISO) » Mon Jul 16, 2007 8:29 am

Well

don't vote then...

somestrangeflea · Post Post #162 (ISO) » Mon Jul 16, 2007 8:30 am

simul-post...

=(

Rishi · Post Post #163 (ISO) » Mon Jul 16, 2007 9:21 am

somestrangeflea wrote:Well
don't vote then...

I won't vote. But I was trying to convince people to unvote until Guardian got his role. Your habit of automatically putting a vote on someone worries me. Even if you are town, what happens if you go into an endgame with three people left alive? If you quickly put a vote on the wrong person, the Mafia can easily hammer and win. With fewer people, I think you should be more careful about voting.

For example, what if AmeliaLi was a cop? I would want Guardian to have all his investigation results before he plays.

Anyway, Crub and YogurtBandit, what do you guys think?

Guardian · Post Post #164 (ISO) » Mon Jul 16, 2007 9:38 am

Just got my role

. Not mafia. YB, I'd like to hear from you. Why were you so sure HH was scum? Why the quick hammer?

somestrangeflea · Post Post #165 (ISO) » Mon Jul 16, 2007 9:56 am

Rishi wrote:I won't vote. But I was trying to convince people to unvote until Guardian got his role. Your habit of automatically putting a vote on someone worries me. Even if you are town, what happens if you go into an endgame with three people left alive? If you quickly put a vote on the wrong person, the Mafia can easily hammer and win. With fewer people, I think you should be more careful about voting.

Good points, but we're not in the endgame now...

I can be more... ruthless...

Rishi · Post Post #166 (ISO) » Mon Jul 16, 2007 10:15 am

somestrangeflea wrote: Good points, but we're not in the endgame now...

I can be more... ruthless...

Well, you're the only one voting for now. Crub isn't quick to vote and I'm not going to put a quick vote on anyone at this point either. So, I don't think anyone is in danger of being lynched too quickly.

Besides, I am giving you a little more leeway in this game, since I get the feeling you are pro-Town (just a hunch).

Crub · Post Post #167 (ISO) » Mon Jul 16, 2007 2:30 pm

Seriously guys what the hell happened yesterday? I really can't see how we can get away from lynching YB today. YB care to fill us in?

somestrangeflea wrote:Good points, but we're not in the endgame now...

I can be more... ruthless...

Yeah but if you use your ruthlessness in the wrong direction again we

will

be in endgame. I was suspicious of you already after day 1, your participation in the quick lynch yesterday only fueled my suspicion.

FoS: SSF, YB

Rishi · Post Post #168 (ISO) » Mon Jul 16, 2007 3:22 pm

Crub wrote:Seriously guys what the hell happened yesterday? I really can't see how we can get away from lynching YB today. YB care to fill us in?

I was convinced that Lateralus was scum. It just really seemed obvious to me, by the way he played. I know that I was thinking, "Would scum be that obvious?" I rationalized it by saying, "Well, Lateralus is a terrible player."

I didn't expect the lynch to go that fast though. I think I put the first vote on Lateralus, just to put a little pressure on him. His non-explanation didn't help matters.

I dunno. Crub is the only one that I am sure is pro-town. Guardian is playing pro-town as was AmeliaLi, but the voting history can't be denied. I mean, AmeliaLi/Guardian is the only player left in the game who didn't vote for Honary Hitchhiker.

Guardian · Post Post #169 (ISO) » Mon Jul 16, 2007 3:24 pm

Lol, to be honest, I was lying that I would have been surprised to get a scum role. I

am

really surprised to get a pro-town role. The voting history spoke volumes to me, but... I'm town xD.

Crub · Post Post #170 (ISO) » Mon Jul 16, 2007 4:29 pm

I understand why Lateralus got lynched. His dud response and then pointing at HH as his number 1 scum (

after

HH got lynched) was really fishy. However it would have been nice to get some more discussion going, before lynching, so that we weren't in the position we are now.

Rishi · Post Post #171 (ISO) » Mon Jul 16, 2007 6:11 pm

I've been reading the thread again. The lynch of Honary Hitchhiker was mostly organized by Crub first, then Ripley and DeliciousGoldfish joined in. I came in next and then somestrangeflea and YogurtBandit jumped on that lynch fairly late. So, I think, if either of them is scum, they saw a sinking ship and needed to distance themselves from it.

The lynch of Lateralus was lightning-quick. somestrangeflea bounced around a lot, but then put the third vote on Lateralus and YogurtBandit hammered.

The case against YogurtBandit: He never wants to discuss anything. He keeps saying there is nothing to talk about and he frequently votes without any content. Most of his posts are one sentence. However, he did come out against Honary Hitchhiker earlier than somestrangeflea.

When YogurtBandit put the fourth vote on Honary Hitchhiker, somestrangeflea asked us to slow down and that he didn't want a lynch before Page 7. He radically altered his tune later. Then he was really vehement about wanting to hammer Honary Hitchhiker and how much he wanted Honary Hitchhiker dead. He also said that he had a feeling that we would like the results of the lynch. Then, on Day 2, somestrangeflea scrambled to find a lynch as quick as possible. He voted Ripley, who looked very innocent to me at that point. Then, he put the third vote on Lateralus, when YogurtBandit quickly hammered.

My feeling is that somestrangeflea tried to slow the game down so that his scum partner, Honary Hitchhiker, would not be lynched. When he realized that Honary Hitchhiker was doomed, he turned against him dramatically, even though he hadn't really said anything negative earlier. On Day 2, he saw the opportunity to get Lateralus out quickly and took it. On Day 3, he is hoping he could lynch YogurtBandit quickly, but did not succeed. Notice his vote came after Guardian's.

I'm not sure how Guardian got off the hook here, but AmeliaLi has no case against her, except for the voting pattern. She only checked in occasionally, it seems. She probably wasn't around for Honary Hitchhiker's lynch and the vote on Lateralus seemed preliminary.

I'm not saying that YogurtBandit isn't suspicious, but I really think that the last Mafia has to be somestrangeflea or YogurtBandit and we have two chances to lynch.

Crub · Post Post #172 (ISO) » Mon Jul 16, 2007 8:20 pm

I agree that SSF is more suspicious than YB, but I can't get past that quick hammer by YB yesterday.

If Guardian is scum I think we're pretty much doomed because AmeliaLi was so quiet there is nothing much for us to go on.

Also I think there is a growing case against Rishi. Firstly he hammered HH which could have been a distancing move when a HH lynch was inevitable. He started the Lateralus wagon, and now he seems to be buddying-up with me.

For now SSF is number 1 on my scumdar.

somestrangeflea · Post Post #173 (ISO) » Mon Jul 16, 2007 11:34 pm

I can actually see why you people would think I'm scummy. I didn't want a page 4/5 lynch. However, HH's behaviour, I felt, was deserving of one.

Just because I did it, doesn't mean I wanted it...

YogurtBandit · Post Post #174 (ISO) » Tue Jul 17, 2007 2:12 am

Ah, sorry about being a little unactive.Yay, Guardian!

Lets face it though, Lateralus was not helpful, and annoying. I was pretty sure he was scum. If not, his lynch at least got erid of a nonhelper.