SMITE Role Madness Mafia (OVER AT LAST!)

[Imperium]

i think the most damning evidence against twie is the meh read on ceph when confronted on it and the subsequent dicking around and eventual dropping it altogether

I don't think there's really anything good about TWIE's play but I'm still having trouble letting go of the Blonde "I can make myself confirmed town" thing, which would be a pretty impressive play from newscum, who, in his last game as scum, just sort of sat around and let himself get lynched.

Nearly every role in this game has the potential to confirm itself as town. Mine does, for example. It's no great stretch of the imagination for Blonde to think the same and say it, regardless of alignment. This also raises the nasty little problem of TWIE not actually confirming himself and coasting like fuck. You would think he'd at least confirm himself and then coast, if that was his plan.

This alleviates none of my concerns.

It's actually a pretty big stretch to assume that Blonde, who again, is a newbie, would see a way his scum role could confirm him as town because that's impossible. Him faking a way to confirm himself as town seems doubtful because it's a ballsy move from a scum player to claim a power they don't have for absolutely no reason: on the other hand, it would make sense if Blonde interpreted his role wrong and was incorrect about what was "confirmed town" and what wasn't in this meta.

[T S O]

It would indeed be a ballsy move by a scum player, especially a newb, to claim a power they don't have. That's why Blonde didn't do that. He believed the role he got, and its powers, could confirm him. This is role madness; as scum or town, this is entirely possible in the mind of a newbie player. Blonde-scum is just as likely to think his role can confirm him as town as Blonde-town is - Blonde-town is not more informed in any way than Blonde-scum. Him doing this is completely null.

Onto Skybird, thanks.

[Imperium]

It would indeed be a ballsy move by a scum player, especially a newb, to claim a power they don't have. That's why Blonde didn't do that. He believed the role he got, and its powers, could confirm him. This is role madness; as scum or town, this is entirely possible in the mind of a newbie player. Blonde-scum is just as likely to think his role can confirm him as town as Blonde-town is - Blonde-town is not more informed in any way than Blonde-scum. Him doing this is completely null.

Onto Skybird, thanks.

Blonde-scum thinking his role could confirm him as town is less likely than Blonde-town thinking his role could confirm him as town is different because one of these scenarios is possible and the other one isn't.

[T S O]

How is that the case?

[T S O]

We know that Blonde, or TWIE now, cannot actually confirm themselves. So, we know Blonde misinterpreted their role. The only question left is if Blonde-town is more likely to misinterpret their role than Blonde-scum.

I propose, this game being role madness, there is no reason to think that.

[Magua]

I'll translate for Imperium: "A newb scum would not believe their role could confirm them as town because they are not town."

Carry on.

[T S O]

I'll translate for Imperium: "A newb scum would not believe their role could confirm them as town because they are not town."

Carry on.

So what's your read on TWIE?

[Magua]

He's useless and has provided minimal content?

I found his tone slightly more believable than yours D2/D3. But there's really nothing there, and I am not opposed to his death at all.

[TheWayItEnds]

What is your read on TWIE?

Scum.

I'll translate for Imperium: "A newb scum would not believe their role could confirm them as town because they are not town."

Carry on.

I guess it could be useful to clarify this.

The reason that Blonde said that, is because at some point in this game I will be confirmed town. I just dont really have that much control over when that happens.

[T S O]

The reason that Blonde said that, is because at some point in this game I will be confirmed town. I just dont really have that much control over when that happens.

That's a pretty good evasion method; the indefiniteness of it will probably carry you to LyLo regions.

I'd give you 8/10 for it.

[TheWayItEnds]

I feel like I crumbed the reason why enough already tbh.

[TheWayItEnds]

And yes, I will be present at lylo.

[Imperium]

I'll translate for Imperium: "A newb scum would not believe their role could confirm them as town because they are not town."

Carry on.

So what's your read on TWIE?

You didn't respond, buddy.

[T S O]

I feel like I crumbed the reason why enough already tbh.

Then presumably anyone who cares enough to look (hint: scum at night, hint #2: not me) will find out, meaning the only thing your crumbing is doing now is depriving town of information for a period of time.

Just say what you mean, TWIE.

[Imperium]

Let's flesh out this TWIE read before talking about anything else.

[T S O]

I'll translate for Imperium: "A newb scum would not believe their role could confirm them as town because they are not town."

Carry on.

So what's your read on TWIE?

You didn't respond, buddy.

I was waiting for you to bring up your "softclaimed for Skybird" point - is this you ceding it's utterly irrelevant?

[TheWayItEnds]

I feel like I crumbed the reason why enough already tbh.

Then presumably anyone who cares enough to look (hint: scum at night, hint #2: not me) will find out, meaning the only thing your crumbing is doing now is depriving town of information for a period of time.

Just say what you mean, TWIE.

Possibly.

No thanks.

[Imperium]

I'll translate for Imperium: "A newb scum would not believe their role could confirm them as town because they are not town."

Carry on.

So what's your read on TWIE?

You didn't respond, buddy.

I was waiting for you to bring up your "softclaimed for Skybird" point - is this you ceding it's utterly irrelevant?

I wanted to discuss one thing at a time since you're bad at responding to things I bring up.

Is there a reason we can't talk about this point, or...?

[Magua]

The reason that Blonde said that, is because at some point in this game I will be confirmed town. I just dont really have that much control over when that happens.

That's a pretty good evasion method; the indefiniteness of it will probably carry you to LyLo regions.

I'd give you 8/10 for it.

This is amusing to me, as it is

almost

the exact same thing you were trying to do earlier.

[T S O]

I wanted to discuss one thing at a time since you're bad at responding to things I bring up.

I have responded to everything I really care about - everything you've posted about TWIE-town, for example.

Is there a reason we can't talk about this point, or...?

*laughs*

I have asked you to talk about at least Skybird at least three times - it is the only place I feel your imput on TWIE could have further relevance, given that you townread him wrongly for inconsequential reasons twice. If you want to talk about what I've asked you to, I am all ears. If you want to rehash your viewpoint and add nothing new to the table... not so much.

[T S O]

The reason that Blonde said that, is because at some point in this game I will be confirmed town. I just dont really have that much control over when that happens.

That's a pretty good evasion method; the indefiniteness of it will probably carry you to LyLo regions.

I'd give you 8/10 for it.

This is amusing to me, as it is

almost

the exact same thing you were trying to do earlier.

Oh well, hypocrisy is not a scumtell.

I also will be vindicated for my decision, so I have no qualms with doing what I did.

[T S O]

It's late and I'm going to bed.

Final thought of the day: I do not understand how mastin has not received a result in days from a basic y/n question.

[Imperium]

I'll translate for Imperium: "A newb scum would not believe their role could confirm them as town because they are not town."

Carry on.

Could you please explain why you disagree with this, TSO?

[dramonic]

Votecount 63: That was only 16 pages...

TSO (6): Metal Sonic, Imperium, Zel1nk, vezokpiraka, ooba, Skybird
vezokpiraka (2): Heartless, TSO
Heartless (1): Farside22

Not Voting: Mastin2, Magua, Fourtrouble, Drixx, Espeonage, ZZZX, theaceofspades, TheWayitEnds

It's 9 to lynch indeed!
Deadline is 16 days. I'll put a countdown, but I'm laaaazy

Farside and TAoS are getting replaced.
As a reminder, I actually check for prods whenever I do a votecount, I just dont post in the votecount that Im prodding.

[dramonic]

Zel1nk is having account issues. Until further notice, he'll post as Zel1nk2.