New York 180 (Endgame)

[Marquis]

VOTE: dragonspawn

goodmorning goes up into town, unrelated to dragon's things.

tso is nullscum again. part of me thinking he was town end of yesterday was related to me being hugely overconfident about fa_q2 scum. i feel like a lot of his recent posts now in hindsight go along with that, like he's pushing easy targets that town has already made a case on or driving a lynch on. just... his recent attacks and scumreads seem to be pushing easy target after easy target.

actually i kind of really want to just lynch tso but nobody's probably up for that.

pedit oh my god that response pings as honest town though gahhhhhhh

UNVOTE:

...recalculating............ this is.....

why do i get the feeling that we just have a lot of town outclassed by scum in experience at looking town?? shinobi, tso? i could see those two easily driving a scumteam.

i'm just going to get rid of my do-not-lynch list entirely and go for the easier, less-potential-disaster option between those two. there's an added benefit in that i don't remember any significant reads on or from him or things he's done. scum removing himself from significant interactions? likely

VOTE: shinobi

[goodmorning]

She's literally not bragging about anything. You're trying to make a case where there isn't one

I bragged about being right on viking, but that was a while ago.

Nothing has changed since yesterday other than the fact that it's obvious she knew ns was a doc.

Yeah, but I've known that for a couple Days now, so...

How do we really know she knew that long?

Because I literally talked to TSO about it, literally in the literal thread?

I don't know. I just read a recent post of his and the idea suddenly came to here that I don't and I haven't ever really felt Aero is really in this game and really wants to kill scum. He reminds me of me when I play scum sometimes, just chugging along and posting enough to get by, not attracting attention.

It could just be me, but I'd like others to think about it. Yes, gm, you too.

It reads apathetic Town to me. I mean, I'm pretty much playing the same way.

there would have been some resistence if he was scum.

Again with this? How do you explain all the resistance on the ABR wagon? He wasn't Scum.

Was unaware she was aware of the doc for several days. I thought it prudent to look into the claim more with that being the case and realizing how the scum are being strategic for their kills.

She is still a suspect. Been suspecting that slot all game but we've had enough blunders without blindly pushing something without analysing new information.

I feel like you've been trying to push a case on me without actually reading any of my posts. It's annoying.

[Marquis]

I feel like you've been trying to push a case on me without actually reading any of my posts. It's annoying.

just for the record, do you think he's town or scum for it? sorry if i just didn't catch it earlier, but there seems to be a lot of annoyance over his actions without much indication of reads on him (from you and some others, including tso)

personally i'm coming around to thinking it's a lazy town stubborn push. it's been putting dragon more and more into the crosshairs for a lynch lately so i would think he or someone on his team would have had him stop by now if scum.

leaving for real now i think

[Aeronaut]

The fact that she's voting him should probably indicate that she thinks he's scum.

[Marquis]

i'm trying to get her to separate the annoyance from the scumread for both herself and my own understanding.

i want to know what she thinks is happening from scum apart from a stubborn push on her

[dragonspawn]

Townpoints to gm for that, I guess.

Were the town points for noticing ns was the doc?

Wolf, when did you realize he was a doc?

Who else openly knew?

[Marquis]

yeah i def think he's town, bbl

[dragonspawn]

She's literally not bragging about anything. You're trying to make a case where there isn't one

I bragged about being right on viking, but that was a while ago.

Nothing has changed since yesterday other than the fact that it's obvious she knew ns was a doc.

Yeah, but I've known that for a couple Days now, so...

How do we really know she knew that long?

Because I literally talked to TSO about it, literally in the literal thread?

I don't know. I just read a recent post of his and the idea suddenly came to here that I don't and I haven't ever really felt Aero is really in this game and really wants to kill scum. He reminds me of me when I play scum sometimes, just chugging along and posting enough to get by, not attracting attention.

It could just be me, but I'd like others to think about it. Yes, gm, you too.

It reads apathetic Town to me. I mean, I'm pretty much playing the same way.

there would have been some resistence if he was scum.

Again with this? How do you explain all the resistance on the ABR wagon? He wasn't Scum.

Was unaware she was aware of the doc for several days. I thought it prudent to look into the claim more with that being the case and realizing how the scum are being strategic for their kills.

She is still a suspect. Been suspecting that slot all game but we've had enough blunders without blindly pushing something without analysing new information.

I feel like you've been trying to push a case on me without actually reading any of my posts. It's annoying.

I feel the same.

And I addressed your argument earlier. Opposition to a wagon wouldn't be a tell either way because both scum and town might have reasons to oppose a wagon.

But a lack of opposition would be an indication of town because if the town thinks someone is scum who isn't the scum would want the mislynch and have no reason to oppose town

[dragonspawn]

I feel like you've been trying to push a case on me without actually reading any of my posts. It's annoying.

just for the record, do you think he's town or scum for it? sorry if i just didn't catch it earlier, but there seems to be a lot of annoyance over his actions without much indication of reads on him (from you and some others, including tso)

personally i'm coming around to thinking it's a lazy town stubborn push. it's been putting dragon more and more into the crosshairs for a lynch lately so i would think he or someone on his team would have had him stop by now if scum.

leaving for real now i think

Not being lazy. Just playing several games at the moment dividing my attention so I miss things occasionally.

[SilverWolf]

Townpoints to gm for that, I guess.

Were the town points for noticing ns was the doc?

Wolf, when did you realize he was a doc?

Who else openly knew?

Back when he crumbed it and TSO and GM were talking about it.

I think elusive knew as well since she made a few comments about how that was a bad vote. Probably some other people I can't remember.

And your point is?

[dragonspawn]

Townpoints to gm for that, I guess.

Were the town points for noticing ns was the doc?

Wolf, when did you realize he was a doc?

Who else openly knew?

Back when he crumbed it and TSO and GM were talking about it.

I think elusive knew as well since she made a few comments about how that was a bad vote. Probably some other people I can't remember.

And your point is?

Not making a point. I'm gathering info, not arguing.

Where is elusive anyway?

[goodmorning]

i'm trying to get her to separate the annoyance from the scumread for both herself and my own understanding.

i want to know what she thinks is happening from scum apart from a stubborn push on her

He hasn't actually done anything this entire game.

And I addressed your argument earlier. Opposition to a wagon wouldn't be a tell either way because both scum and town might have reasons to oppose a wagon.

But a lack of opposition would be an indication of town because if the town thinks someone is scum who isn't the scum would want the mislynch and have no reason to oppose town

Scum have plenty of reasons to oppose lynches on Town.

[SilverWolf]

OFF TOPIC

Aero-Check the PT or the Team Mafia thread and submit our game choices please.

They are waiting for us and a few others.

Get going team captain.

[Shinobi]

Marquis are you going to call me scum for bullshit reasons again?

You know how well that worked out for you last time.

[Shinobi]

Actually, I'm going to change my tactics here a bit:

i'm just going to get rid of my do-not-lynch list entirely and go for the easier, less-potential-disaster option between those two. there's an added benefit in that i don't remember any significant reads on or from him or things he's done. scum removing himself from significant interactions? likely

VOTE: shinobi

Elaborate on this and show where it's consistent with my filter/posting instead of just saying "I don't remember anything so he's mafia lol."

[dragonspawn]

Didn't Abr say he followed shining?

[Shinobi]

Do people even try to spell my name properly anymore?

The constant misspellings are so amusing.

[SilverWolf]

ABR lied and said he investigated Shinobi as a cop N1 and got an innocent. Obviously, he wasn't the cop.

Then he said he tracked Shinobi to nowhere N1 and tracked mathblade to Ellie N2-basically the mathblade part was a lie so I don't trust him on the Shinobi part either.

I wish he would of told us the honest truth about who he tracked before he hammered himself.

[Shinobi]

ABR lied and said he investigated Shinobi as a cop N1 and got an innocent. Obviously, he wasn't the cop.

Then he said he tracked Shinobi to nowhere N1 and tracked mathblade to Ellie N2-basically the mathblade part was a lie so I don't trust him on the Shinobi part either.

I wish he would of told us the honest truth about who he tracked before he hammered himself.

He told us about the bolded when he retracted cop and reclaimed tracker.

Though this is a fun way of trying to ignore in-game events.

[dragonspawn]

Do people even try to spell my name properly anymore?

The constant misspellings are so amusing.

Autocorrect sucks. I should just save your name so it stops doing it shinobi

[Shinobi]

But it's so much fun seeing what people come up with...

[dragonspawn]

Don't know if Abr was telling the truth on shinobi but I'm guessing he was. Which was one of the reasons I stopped pushing him as hard. Him not going anywhere doesn't prove anything but I'd rather look elsewhere today.

[SilverWolf]

ABR lied and said he investigated Shinobi as a cop N1 and got an innocent. Obviously, he wasn't the cop.

Then he said he tracked Shinobi to nowhere N1 and tracked mathblade to Ellie N2-basically the mathblade part was a lie so I don't trust him on the Shinobi part either.

I wish he would of told us the honest truth about who he tracked before he hammered himself.

He told us about the bolded when he retracted cop and reclaimed tracker.

Though this is a fun way of trying to ignore in-game events.

Right and I never said otherwise. He lied so much I don't believe anything he said. If he would of said before he hammered-Hey guys, Here's who I really tracked N1 and N2 before hammering-I would of believed him. Things he said in the heat of the moment, while lying, I don't.

Even if he was telling the truth, that kind of result doesn't really mean much to me when there are likely multiple scum still alive.

Overall, it's null is what I'm saying.

[goodmorning]

If there are 4-5 people on a scumteam, one person going anywhere is totally non-indicative, which is why Tracker is so weak.

[dragonspawn]

I'd still prefer to look elsewhere.

Why don't we look at some of the fa push? There has to be at least one scum there.