New York 180 (Endgame)

[goodmorning]

Townpoints to gm for that, I guess.

I only did it for the applause

or something

I couldn't think of any appropriately flippant song lyrics, so...

I could get on this FAQ wagon.
I am OK with it.

Vote: FAQ

That's somewhere between L-2 and L-4, I can't count.

[SilverWolf]

That's L-2-5 votes out of 7

[SilverWolf]

Keeping track of the vc before voting is kind of important with all the quick hammers going on in this game. Seems a weird thing to overlook.

I'm waiting for FA to respond.

[Nobody Special]

Let's make it L-1.

unvote

Vote: FAQ2

[goodmorning]

@SilverWolf: That's what I thought, but then I couldn't find the votes so I gave up.

p-edit: Well ok then.

[SilverWolf]

No one hammer until he responds please. His answers can be important for future analysis regardless of his flip.

Thanks

[SilverWolf]

Also, we still have 9 days so there is plenty of time yet here.

[SilverWolf]

Ozgin and Shinobi-thoughts?

[T S O]

Also also, I like how FA picks and chooses what he responds to on this last page.
TSO's newbie case against him is pretty bad and if he was legitimately mad at people pushing him, I think he would be pushing back on those points as well. The lack of pushback makes me think he feels awkward trying to directly interact with TSO/wants to make it seem like his points pushing for him aren't as bad as they are.
I think TSO/FA as scummates would kind of make sense.

Nah, this is just you wanting me to be scum badly.

[Kitz]

Somewhat "intend to hammer". If all agrees to lynch but lacks a last vote and the rest doesn't vote, then sure, hammer.
For now, let everyone talk.

We have like a whole week, aye? But it'll be stupid to waste that week with absolutely no needed or constructive discussion.

[dragonspawn]

I'm not particularly leaning towards an fa lynch but I won't object if their is a hammer. I just would much prefer hitting gm.

[dragonspawn]

Somewhat "intend to hammer". If all agrees to lynch but lacks a last vote and the rest doesn't vote, then sure, hammer.
For now, let everyone talk.

We have like a whole week, aye? But it'll be stupid to waste that week with absolutely no needed or constructive discussion.

Since when has waste been considered before?

I'd love more discussion. Hammering Viking while I was gone pissed me off. It gave me no time to react to Abr's counter claim.

[SilverWolf]

I'm trying to get discussion going but it seems between apathetic town/scum promoting apathy, that it really isn't going to happen.

I at least want FA to get a chance to speak again and get thoughts from the lurkers-Shinobi and Ozgin in particular.

We should at least give it another day.

This is critically important regardless of how FA flips.

[Shinobi]

Ozgin and Shinobi-thoughts?

Idk. I'll post thoughts when I get home from work.

[elusive]

Don't hammer just yet not all the scumfucks have chimed in.

[dragonspawn]

Crazy idea. Shutdowns someone invoke so we don't have a wakelike hammer

[dragonspawn]

I don't know how why doesn't someone turns into shutdown

[Ozgin]

Holding the intent to hammer, just in case Kitz isn't really sure about it.

I'm waiting for FA_Q to get a chance to really speak. I really don't like the "Whatever, blegh" attitude he has those (like in posts 4000 and 4014), I also don't get the contradiction here either, where he defends Wake by saying (basically) "What scum would replace out of a winning game?" followed by "Yeah, I think Wake is scummy..." It just doesn't add up.

This sounds like fake sympathy to me.

My least-favorite FA_Q post is probably this one, where he puts ABR at L-1 because (I am paraphrasing his attitude at that point) "Fuck it! Town lost anyways, who gives a fuck, right?! Thbbrrrrrrttttttt".

All in all, I don't really like FA_Q's posts because they're either null or grossly apathetic to the town situation.

[SilverWolf]

Wait until tomorrow Ozgin because he's on late and won't get a chance to speak until later. I can do it as well so no hurry.

[Marquis]

i have no more feelings until i get another flip which will hopefully be my faq2 flip which will in turn hopefully be a scumflip that supertownifies me.

[Ozgin]

Wait until tomorrow Ozgin because he's on late and won't get a chance to speak until later. I can do it as well so no hurry.

Well of course, but I want FA_Q to really understand the consequences he's facing, and if he responds with the same level of apathy that he seems to be playing with, I will bring it down on him.

i have no more feelings until i get another flip which will hopefully be my faq2 flip which will in turn hopefully be a scumflip that supertownifies me.

And what if you're wrong (and so are the rest of us who think of FA_Q negatively)?

[Marquis]

then i have a wagon to analyze and another nightkill to do so with as well

either way i think there's a really good chance of fa_q2 flipping scum that trumps any of my second thoughts and it's the best choice we have

[Marquis]

also i've been toying with the idea of tso!scum. his treatment of the faq2 wagon and handling post-jump onto it kind of pings.

he's really good as scum too, so right now i'm mostly trying to distinguish my paranoia of that from any legit concerns i have.

[FA_Q2]

then i have a wagon to analyze and another nightkill to do so with as well

either way i think there's a really good chance of fa_q2 flipping scum that trumps any of my second thoughts and it's the best choice we have

There is zero chance of me flipping scum - period. My wagon generated really fast and very easily - want scum look there. There is literally zero resistance to it. I find wakes actions scummy as I already said. I have given other reads as well - look them up I am not going to reiterate them.

Get this shit over with and hammer me already. I tire of towns abject idiocy this game.

[FA_Q2]

Holding the intent to hammer, just in case Kitz isn't really sure about it.

I'm waiting for FA_Q to get a chance to really speak. I really don't like the "Whatever, blegh" attitude he has those (like in posts 4000 and 4014), I also don't get the contradiction here either, where he defends Wake by saying (basically) "What scum would replace out of a winning game?" followed by "Yeah, I think Wake is scummy..." It just doesn't add up.

This sounds like fake sympathy to me.

My least-favorite FA_Q post is probably this one, where he puts ABR at L-1 because (I am paraphrasing his attitude at that point) "Fuck it! Town lost anyways, who gives a fuck, right?! Thbbrrrrrrttttttt".

All in all, I don't really like FA_Q's posts because they're either null or grossly apathetic to the town situation.

Your 'least favorite' post is an abject lie. I didn't put him at L1 because of 'fuck it.' I put him there because he was single highhandedly destroying the game. IF ABR survived then he would have done absolutely nothing at all but distract the ENTIRE town from scum hunting and eliminating any and all ability to move forward. I gave my reasons and here you are taking shit out of context and lying about it.

You all are looking for scum ^ here is more of it.