New York 180 (Endgame)

[Marquis]

this game is hilarious that's why i'm here

anything i should know before finishing my skim

[Aeronaut]

Ika can we get a vc

[SilverWolf]

I did find this:

Balancing Mafia games is an art unto itself. However, in general a Mafia should make up about 20% to 25% of your initial population of players. The number of total scum in the game CAN go up to 33% of the total players if the Town is particularly strong, but this 33% usually does not come from one faction.
Generally, a faction is stronger when it has more members. This is why six-person Mafia teams are not at all common.

http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Mafia

So yeah, not in mylo right now I don't think with 13 alive and pisskop dead.

[Kitz]

naked jogger, town citizen has been modkilled and turned neutral survivor

town citizen

WAT DAH FJUUUUUUUUUK

/cutwrist

Meh.
Poking "Nobody Special", "Shinoby", "T S O" and "Aeronaut".

#Mod : Can we get a role reroll due to the nature of this game?

[SilverWolf]

good morning still seems like gloating scum who just so happens to vote for me when I was calling him on his scumminess yesterday.

If you read us in ISO I think you'll find that I called you Scum first.

But ok.

@Kitz: In a bit, maybe.

Wake's replace is weird.

Understandable if it is absolutely wrong. It does not sound scummy though - why would scum want out of a game they were being handed?

Wake is leaning scum for me atm because of earlier shenanigans (that hammer he did was VERY questionable) but his replacement does not lead credence to him being scum.

You may notice the word I use there is "weird."

I'm starting to think SilverWolf is Town? I don't know, this game doesn't make sense anymore.

elusive could be Scum. I don't know anything.

What makes you think elusive is scum?

[T S O]

!!!!!

[T S O]

16-4-1 seems relatively balanced - unless scum are powerful as fuck they have to have more than 3 members, and pisskop's role is kinda mediocre.

I don't think it's 15-5-1 but it could be.

[T S O]

Then again we have a shitload of PR's.

[T S O]

Ika said something in a dead PT recently about how he as a mod balances games. I'll look for it later.

[Shinobi]

naked jogger, town citizen has been modkilled and turned neutral survivor

town citizen

WAT DAH FJUUUUUUUUUK

/cutwrist

Meh.

Poking "Nobody Special", "Shinoby", "T S O" and "Aeronaut".

#Mod : Can we get a role reroll due to the nature of this game?

Literally the worst scumlist of all time.

[Shinobi]

You didn't even spell my name correctly.

Who says Shinoby?

WHO?

[Nobody Special]

Shin, why do you interpret the list as a scumlist? I read it as an activity/lurker list.

[Nobody Special]

Ika can we get a vc

I am trying to pin down a motivation for this post.

I am not succeeding.

[T S O]

VOTE: Nobody Special

[T S O]

"I am trying to pin down a motivation towards asking for a votecount."

Could you fake scumhunt any worse, NS?

[T S O]

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... er_sort=Go

NS as scum, if you want meta.

[ika]

Nobody Special: T S O

Not voting: Shinobi, Ozgin, marquis, Nobody Special, SilverWolf, elusive, goodmorning, Aeronaut, FA_Q2, dragonspawn, Cheetory6, kitz

With 13 alive, it's 7 to lynch.

deadline: 12 days, 10 hours, 53 minutes

[ika]

#Mod : Can we get a role reroll due to the nature of this game?

Unfortunately no, if it was an open game i could maybe ask something of the sort.

[SilverWolf]

Nobody Special: T S O

Not voting: Shinobi, Ozgin, marquis, Nobody Special, SilverWolf, elusive, goodmorning, Aeronaut, FA_Q2, dragonspawn, Cheetory6

With 12 alive, it's 7 to lynch.

deadline: 12 days, 10 hours, 53 minutes

@ika

You are missing Kitz so isn't it 13 alive still?

[Shinobi]

"I am trying to pin down a motivation towards asking for a votecount."

Could you fake scumhunt any worse, NS?

This.

I'll look into ns when I get home.

[FakedBlogger]

It was brought to me that NJ has made a very borderline post. I decided to take it to listmods and see if there was any site rules broken (the video). There was not.

HOWEVER, the video in question is not only severely insulting but also highly inappropriate (i don't care that it has the NSFW tag, if I'm at work i need to be able to see everything). Then add in the comments that were being directed were insulting a player (this is FMPOV as well) and not their play.

I am 100% aware of insulting a players play is used as a start, but when you get to a point stating that their positing is lowing IQ, thats not insulting play, thats insulting player. I normally never do mod kills (unless its extreme) but with all the issues going on in this game as well as how insults have been going on in many other places, I am just cutting all the crap and just removing the slot entirely.

I didn't post those things. It was pussy mouth. She was supposed to deliver this message. Anyway, gl and sorry for the trouble.

PS: Lol @ Aeronaut

[Cheetory6]

Hopefully the tone of this game will get better from here -.-..

@TSO

, can you pitch me what you believe is the difference between your scumgame and your towngame?
Would you also mind linking me a towngame or two? I want to make sure I'm not just getting caught up on general metatells rather than scumtells from metadiving.

@All else

, can everyone give me their read on TSO and why?
I don't entirely believe some of the stuff he was saying in response to me, particularly that he believed that we could leash Mathblade. I think that's reasoning he's putting forward in hindsight to overjustify why he was doing what he was doing. I asked him for specific reasoning as to why he wanted to lynch ABR over Math before deadline and there was no indication as to that being a part of the reason:

Because either he dies from vig or lynch and the vig could do better than shooting him.

Like, I just feel like his explanation today as to what he was doing on D3 feels too elaborate and thought-out for someone who was apathetic and disinterested in what was going on. I think he's trying to adjust to look better after having played in a scummy/sloppy manner. Why wouldn't he immediately responded to me with "I just didn't care that much after all the shit that had happened" instead of "these are all of the actual reasons why an ABR lynch made a bunch of sense that I didn't actually say before voting for him"? It just feels dishonest.

Furthermore, I've started doing a bit of a metadive and I'm seeing a lot of things from NY 178 that seem somewhat familiar to this game (being able to get angry at things, getting into big fights with people he perceives as being unreasonable). Given that he generally eluded everyone's detection as scum in that game, I'm curious as to what exactly is making him seem like he isn't scum to everyone right now?
Can someone with more meta experience with him give some thoughts on what his towngame is like as well?

[SilverWolf]

OK Cheetory-I will ISO T S O and look at NY 178 and find a town game of his and look at it as well and get back to you later today or tomorrow.

[SilverWolf]

Poking "Nobody Special", "Shinoby", "T S O" and "Aeronaut".

Are these your current scumreads and if so, why?

[SilverWolf]

Ika can we get a vc

I am trying to pin down a motivation for this post.

I am not succeeding.

Why do you think asking for a vc is alignment indicative in the least?