[OLD] Open Setup Discussion and Nominations

[Guardian]

Yeah, that was the one problem with it. Maybe if no one posts for a period of X days, day ends and townie dies? Or is the idea just too fundamentally flawed?

[Kelly Chen]

I don't think I get how this is significantly different from Bad Idea?

Do such games really need a rule to handle the case that nobody kills anybody?

[JDodge]

Take out the one-post requirement for the first kill.

[Guardian]

First kill is 0 posts before you. Second is 1. Third is 4. Fourth is 9. etc.

[JDodge]

Oh. Well then, that's much less of a problem than I thought.

[Guardian]

And just in case there was a misunderstanding - it is 1 of ANY posts, not 1 of the person you want to kill.

So it really isn't that bad. I think this would be fun/funny. Is 14 an appropriate number of townies?

[Karo]

Okay, quick question: I am planing to mod a kingmaker mafia. What would be the best number of players for that variant? What would be the minimal number to have a good game? Thanks!

[Thesp]

This thread is for discussing potential setups and nominating them for the Queue thread.

Please use this thread for discussing Open Games only. There are other threads available for discussing other setups. Thanks.

[Guardian]

Thesp - you want me out, too? Just wondering, since it is open, but probably not well suited to the open queue.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Nominate Worse Idea Mafia

[Thesp]

Thesp - you want me out, too? Just wondering, since it is open, but probably not well suited to the open queue.

An open setup isn't necessarily an Open Game. I'll split the topic off for you when I get the mod powers to do so.

[Guardian]

Much appreciated, whenever you get the chance Thesp. And I didn't think from the beginning that it would be appropriate for the open queue -- it is just too wacky.

Thanks for the interest, though, Albert!

I think I will search for someone to mod it, and have me co-mod it -- that way the modding rules would not be broken, and I could help run the game .

This is, of course, after the setup discussion that I hope takes place takes place, and we reach a conclusion on the optimal tweaking of the setup. I am going to try and move somewhat quickly on this, though .

[Albert B. Rampage]

I always wanted to day-kill someone. Shut their face straight up. Send me a holla if your going to co-mod such a game, k ?

[Adel]

Texan Rapid-Fire Mafia

9 Single-Shot Day-Kill Vigs
2 Double-Shot Day-Kill Mafia

Mafia can PM during the day. No night phase, no lynching. Last team standing wins.

(Would 3 Single-Shot Day-Kill Mafia be better?)

Albert I think this game would appeal to you, perhaps with some tweaking.

[Aimee]

Texan Rapid-Fire Mafia

9 Single-Shot Day-Kill Vigs
2 Double-Shot Day-Kill Mafia

Mafia can PM during the day. No night phase, no lynching. Last team standing wins.

(Would 3 Single-Shot Day-Kill Mafia be better?)

Albert I think this game would appeal to you, perhaps with some tweaking.

It seems quite a cool idea, but it seems more a battle of survival than a game of Mafia - the idea of taking out the lynching mechanic definitely would turn some off.

[Kelly Chen]

Mafia need to be sure they don't use their second kills before endgame...

[Albert B. Rampage]

How about 2 shots for the townies, but a 50/50 chance to hit for mafia and townie ? Mafia could have 3 shots.

[yellowbounder]

I think we need to possibly slow down on the new setups, I'm certainly guilty of this, and look back through the

35 pages(!)

of this thread, for some good oldies.

Now this may be a lot of wiki work, but if we can take all of these setups, and make a central page (at the very least the ones that had signups) so they're all visible.

Here are some setups I like:

Nominate JesterMafia

7 townies
2 mafia
1 jester
Day start

Because you can never have enough Jesters.

Arsonist Mafia

1 Arsonist (SK that kills with Fire, possibly a 50% chance of killing)
1 Firefighter (Protown, Protects pepole from Arsonist, If Arsonist killed, turns into townie)
3 Mafia (1 Godfather)
2 Cops (Possibly both Sane)
1 Doc
4 Townies

Like the look of it. Needs work.

Nominate Vigilante Mafia 2

3 Goons
1 Vigilante
8 Townies
Day start

Simple. Clean.

[Kelly Chen]

Bah. yellowbounder, what do you like about Arsonist? All I find notable is the doc who only protects against the SK.

[Guardian]

Bah. yellowbounder, what do you like about Arsonist?

yellowbounder's response?:

I find notable the doc who only protects against the SK.

A doc for mafia and *other* for the SK is interesting .

[Albert B. Rampage]

Crime Family

An italian mob family splits into two factions after the godfather dies. Both want each other dead, but have to deal with the pesky citizens of the town.

3 mafia from family A
3 mafia from family B
10 townies
1 vig

Here's the catch: The mafia all know each other. Family A knows every member of family B and vice versa. Of course, the mafia are all bulletproof to eachother.

[Ms Piggy]

KC Mafia

2 Mafia A
2 Mafia B
2 Mafia C
2 Mafia D
2 Townies
1 Cop
1 Doctor

Mafia Groups A and B can kill on Odd Nights.

Mafia Groups C and D can kill on Even Nights.

[Albert B. Rampage]

KC Mafia

2 Mafia A
2 Mafia B
2 Mafia C
2 Mafia D
2 Townies
1 Cop
1 Doctor

Mafia Groups A and B can kill on Odd Nights.

Mafia Groups C and D can kill on Even Nights.

Why are the townies outnumbered 2 to 1 ?

[Ms Piggy]

Each mafia group wins only if they are the only group remaining in the game.

The town wins when all the other mafia are dead.

I expect the mafia groups to kill each other each night, well at least sometimes.

[Albert B. Rampage]

It seems exaggeratively unbalanced to me.