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Metal Sonic Sun Tzu
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scum probably have fake role pms and i doubt that they would come up with something as bullshit as "oh lol my ulti is a weakness"
though i may be wrong-
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Ozgin Goon
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In post 5324, Cephrir wrote:these replacements tho
ozgin, why are you assuming you will be alive tomorrow, that seems very unlikely
I'm not, but what's the point of surviving if I reveal something that will just end up fucking me over in the long run, hmm?
I mean, if it really is a fact of life that I'm dead tonight, fine, but I'm not gonna jump off a sinking ship when I won't be able to swim to safety anyways.
I'd pretty much just sooner die and take my ult to the death message than save my skin just to have it turned on me right after. If you really need my ultimate claim to think I'm town, then we're all doomed already, because that kind of stubbornness isn't going to help us make progress.If I'm modding your game, I'm sorry in advance. <3-
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Heartless Jack of All Trades
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In post 5300, T S O wrote:I really feel people should stop pseudo-baiting Falcon - yes, Cephrir.
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T S O Survivor
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I thought it was a pretty simple post."i have the sickest grossest feeling that even if it's my lynch today, my townflip still won't lead to a tso lynch, and then he'll find some bullshit way to reason either shooting or lynching gm tomorrow because if there's anyone who can strongarm a mislynch despite his reads or cases being proved wrong time and again it's tso"-Marquis-
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Heartless Jack of All Trades
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one that's simply... garbage-
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T S O Survivor
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You think so? A pity."i have the sickest grossest feeling that even if it's my lynch today, my townflip still won't lead to a tso lynch, and then he'll find some bullshit way to reason either shooting or lynching gm tomorrow because if there's anyone who can strongarm a mislynch despite his reads or cases being proved wrong time and again it's tso"-Marquis-
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Cephrir he/himSurvivorhe/him
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Metal Sonic Sun Tzu
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In post 5326, Ozgin wrote:In post 5324, Cephrir wrote:these replacements tho
ozgin, why are you assuming you will be alive tomorrow, that seems very unlikely
I'm not, but what's the point of surviving if I reveal something that will just end up fucking me over in the long run, hmm?
I mean, if it really is a fact of life that I'm dead tonight, fine, but I'm not gonna jump off a sinking ship when I won't be able to swim to safety anyways.
I'd pretty much just sooner die and take my ult to the death message than save my skin just to have it turned on me right after. If you really need my ultimate claim to think I'm town, then we're all doomed already, because that kind of stubbornness isn't going to help us make progress.
this is a town post-
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Metal Sonic Sun Tzu
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In post 5320, Imperium wrote:This was TiphaineDeath's first major post of the game, with main pushbacks being against FT and Solar Wind. Both of these players had become as close to universally town read as you possibly can early game, and I generally love when pl!years push back hard against the status quo whether I agree with the read or not because it generates a lot of attention (and, interestingly enough, is the main reason people are pushing on him now).
This post is his first major town read, which is on vezok for making a series of posts that are "too easy to jump on". I find this a pretty unlikely reason to give from scum as a reason to town read someone in most cases, but it seems especially town from someone who often serves as lynchbait because he's finding something that happens most often to himself (doesn't temper the ridiculous shit he's saying as town, gets lynched) and using it as a way to read another player. I don't see the scum motivation in providing a read in this way, but town motivation is obvious.
This shift from aceofspades to Cephrir seems town as shit: the worry about looking bad for a move seems genuine (and why would he out it if talking about a scum partner? and if it looks bad because he's moving away from a scum partner, why the fuck would he say that aloud?) and is the opposite of an opportunistic move as he shifted from major wagon with support on lynchbait to a wagon that very distinctly was not lynchbait.
This claim is stupidly stupidly and seeing its existence and tiphaine still getting me votes pisses me off. 1) People claiming they are responsible for lack of kill with conviction is town. The only reason they are scum is if they are setting up a no kill gambit or they are coached into claiming responsibility. TD would not be the leader of a scumteam who decides "we are going to no kill tonight and I am going to claim responsibility". Second, the scumteam is not going to have their scum roleblocker claim honestly on Night 1: roleblocker is far and above the most important role for a scumteam to possess in a role madness game and putting tiphaine in this position is essentially the scumteam cutting both of its arms off. Thirdly, TD's reasoning makes complete fucking sense if town: if scum, they had TD target a town player who screamed "don't target me, don't target me" pretty much the entirety of yesterday, thus doing pretty much the only thing they could possibly do to cast doubt on something that would otherwise be a pretty gotcha claim? No. They fucking would not.
nacho did something similar to this in Capcom crossover and he was scum. his target was the opposite of the role he posited in the case.-
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vezokpiraka Jack of All Trades
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Xombie Goon
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I stayed! Sort of...
VLA until Monday- In flight/settling in with warmer climes.-
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Heartless Jack of All Trades
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everyone on the ft wagon and everyone not voting needs to pick a side
next post-
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Metal Sonic Sun Tzu
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Out of all 3 wagons
Ft has not claimed, not even mildly partially.
We should actually force it out.
Based on recent games it is possible that the way of play of ft can be scum. It's just that I am blind to such scum, cannot detect them.-
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Cephrir he/himSurvivorhe/him
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Ozgin Goon
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In post 5338, Cephrir wrote:No, we shouldn't, because we are not under any circumstances lynching him.
Why are you so adamant on squeezing a claim out of my slot and yet you're perfectly okay with FT not even pretending to claim even his passive? I think making FT claim is a great idea. Why grill me for it on almost no grounds but now that it's been brought up you want to avoid doing the same to FT?
Gosh, it's like you'rea teamor something...
VOTE: FourTrouble
Give us that claim, please. Give us something. A passive at least.If I'm modding your game, I'm sorry in advance. <3-
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Cephrir he/himSurvivorhe/him
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I'm adamant on you claiming because you are getting lynched.
I am no more interested in a claim from FT than one from, say, Andrius, myself, Imperium, or literally anyone else who is exactly as much of a non-lynch-candidate today as FT is.
And that "you must be a team" line is scumposting, plain and simple."I would prefer not to." --Herman Melville,Bartleby the Scrivener-
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Ozgin Goon
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In post 5340, Cephrir wrote:
I'm adamant on you claiming because you are getting lynched.
I am no more interested in a claim from FT than one from, say, Andrius, myself, Imperium, or literally anyone else who is exactly as much of a non-lynch-candidate today as FT is.
And that "you must be a team" line is scumposting, plain and simple.
For what reason is the second largest wagon a non-lynch candidate? In what was is that plain or simple?
I also didn't say you must be a team, that's misrepping me. I just said it's like you're one. I'm not pointing any fingers, I'm just giving some information to the public about how you might be more than what you're letting on. Even if I die, I'm going to turn some fucking heads.If I'm modding your game, I'm sorry in advance. <3-
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Heartless Jack of All Trades
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it's ok, counting is hard
In post 5128, dramonic wrote:Votecount 41: I NEED SOME CYANIDE
Ozgin (8): Imperium, Skybird, FourTrouble, TheWayItEnds, Metal Sonic, Ankamius, Heartless, Cephrir
TiphaineDeath (7): Mastin2, TSO, Xombie, theaceofspades, farside22, Vezokpiraka, Ooba, The Mask
FourTrouble (2): magua, Ozgin
Not Voting: Rachmarie, ZZZX, Solar Wind, Bitmap, FourTrouble
23 alive means 12 to lynch.
Deadline is (expired on 2015-03-02 00:00:00)
TD asked to be replaced ;_;-
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Ozgin Goon
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In post 5342, Heartless wrote:it's ok, counting is hard
In post 5128, dramonic wrote:Votecount 41: I NEED SOME CYANIDE
Ozgin (8): Imperium, Skybird, FourTrouble, TheWayItEnds, Metal Sonic, Ankamius, Heartless, Cephrir
TiphaineDeath (7): Mastin2, TSO, Xombie, theaceofspades, farside22, Vezokpiraka, Ooba, The Mask
FourTrouble (2): magua, Ozgin
Not Voting: Rachmarie, ZZZX, Solar Wind, Bitmap, FourTrouble
23 alive means 12 to lynch.
Deadline is (expired on 2015-03-02 00:00:00)
TD asked to be replaced ;_;
Okay, well formerly the second largest (I'm remembering the votecount I first saw when I came in when I ISO'd, my bad).If I'm modding your game, I'm sorry in advance. <3-
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Cephrir he/himSurvivorhe/him
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In post 5341, Ozgin wrote:I also didn't say you must be a team, that's misrepping me. I just said it's like you're one. I'm not pointing any fingers, I'm just giving some information to the public about how you might be more than what you're letting on.
that is literally the definition of pointing fingers"I would prefer not to." --Herman Melville,Bartleby the Scrivener-
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Ozgin Goon
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In post 5344, Cephrir wrote:In post 5341, Ozgin wrote:I also didn't say you must be a team, that's misrepping me. I just said it's like you're one. I'm not pointing any fingers, I'm just giving some information to the public about how you might be more than what you're letting on.
that is literally the definition of pointing fingers
Are you illiterate?
I used very specific wording. I said youmightbe. It'slikeyou're a team. I never once said youareanything. I'm not pointing at you, I'm just looking at your and facing your direction.If I'm modding your game, I'm sorry in advance. <3-
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Cephrir he/himSurvivorhe/him
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Ozgin Goon
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Cephrir he/himSurvivorhe/him
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Ozgin Goon
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