SMITE Role Madness Mafia (OVER AT LAST!)

[T S O]

I really feel people should stop pseudo-baiting Falcon - yes, Cephrir.

[TheWayItEnds]

No way.

This seemed like a productive conversation the last 12 times.

Why wouldnt we want to have it again?

[T S O]

I guess you're right after all.

I always get these things wrong.

[TheWayItEnds]

Its alright.

At least you still have me here to guide you.

[Ankamius]

Andrius!

If you can make heads or tails of this game, let me know. I want to be able to work with you again and that would require one of us having any idea whatsoever of what's going on.

[T S O]

Its alright.

At least you still have me here to guide you.

Are we still recruiting? The line seems to have slowed to a trickle.

[T S O]

I personally blame the advertisement team.

[Metal Sonic]

Don't be the hero this game deserves. Be the one it needs right now. (Read the thread.)

Would you be terribly upset if I only read D1? (115 pages IIRC)

Day 2 is better than day 1

[farside22]

Sorry it hard for me to stay focus on all this chatter.
I refuse to replace out because I think it would suck for the mod to have to search.

[Skybird]

I personally blame the advertisement team.

Maybe you guys need to offer incentives.

[Heartless]

ffery's readslist is one i can get behind

I want to talk more about this because I felt your reads were a lot different. But I may be misremembering.

nah, not really

Maybe Town

Skybird

TheWayItEnds - the degree of disengagement worries me a lot. Maybe he'll look more town when a normal lynch can happen.

Ankamius - whatever reasons I had for a townread feel very long ago and far away now.

Not So Town

Beast (least town of the available choices today imo)

T S O

TheAceOfSpades

[mastin2]

ffery's readslist is one i can get behind

Eh, not 100%, but far more yea than nay, yes, I can.

[farside22]

Can anyone explain why td is a town read?
I mean I saw solar give me shit about not being around much since I created this, but TD has said shit all since being shoved in the spot light.

[Metal Sonic]

"Too moronic to be scum"

[The Mask]

Second best part of this phase is Andy showing up
<3

Got nothing to go off til we get a flip.

[Magua]

The one unanswered item about the irregularities on AngryPidgeon's lynch is what Mask's repulse does:

Nvm bit disappointed AP is leading but w/e tf, you guys are cocks so you hate pidgeons

repulse: angry pidgeon

On initial reading, I had assumed that this made AngryPidgeon hated and was what was responsible for the lynch at L-1.

Now I'm just curious about what it did and

why Mask did it.

Added emphasis.

[The Mask]

oh shi- is that what you lovely people are waiting on? Sorry!

Yes it made him hated so to speak, and I did mention it earlier right after beast's claim was thrown out by one of his neighbors. Admittedly I was playing outguess the mod because beast's role and mine were weird to be same sided at the time, since his role seemed more like a counter to mine. I got over it pretty quickly.

However if we go off the (new?) spin provided by Ozgin, then I definitely do not wish to revisit outguess-the-mod land because the role could go either way.

And I did it because deadline was coming soon but I didn't read that SW wanted to hammer. All I knew we had a few minutes.

[The Mask]

And to answer the next question I see coming from a very smart individual (though you all are smart as a group too) is that I didn't read because it's actually not fun to log on and see 20 pages a day but don't let me be negative nancy up in here because I'm not.

Toodles.

[Imperium]

Can anyone explain why td is a town read?
I mean I saw solar give me shit about not being around much since I created this, but TD has said shit all since being shoved in the spot light.

I think TD relative silence has something to do with him being replaced >.>

[Ozgin]

My other half of my claim, my ult, is almost suicide at this stage of the game AND creates the biggest weakness I could have next to death and doesn't quite reward me enough at this stage. I would rather save that reveal for later in the game when I can feel more confident in my ability to scumread.

No. The question was "What was your thought process?"

Or to put another way: your claiming of stuff that was already claimed looks like someone who read through their ISO and claimed what their predecessor had already claimed (specifically you claimed what beast had already claimed in the neighborhood). That makes it look like not a real claim. beast had reasons for claiming what he claimed and reasons to not claim what he didn't, which I have to imagine, are different from yours.

I'm curious what your reasons are, hence, "What's your thought process?"

Fixed the formatting for quality.

My "thought process" was that of, "oh shit, this guy opted for a replace and I'm in shit, I don't know why I'm in shit but I am, but let me just try to throw the few cards I have on the table."

I didn't actually read the 'hood, it seems useless to me. I'll get to it eventually, but I opened it and posted in it and then came right back here to start reading.

So I don't understand the wagon on me (slash beast) because beast didn't read scum to me (yes I technically ISOd myself).

Reconcile that for me, please, with this quote:

It's pretty stupid, I'm Order aligned. Has BeastCharizard claimed role yet?

If you'd ISO'd yourself, why ask this question?

Look at the dates of those posts. Three days (or so) of difference.

It's a pretty simple thought pattern, I'm not hard to read and I certainly should not be read as scum for developing an opinion after having three days to read and learn.

I've fallen behind due to IRL shit, I'm sorry, I'm really trying to keep up but it's so frustrating because I'm feeling really crushed under the weight of being FoS'd when I'm not and it's just hard for me to defend myself. It's like one of my biggest pet peeves.

[Imperium]

This was TiphaineDeath's first major post of the game, with main pushbacks being against FT and Solar Wind. Both of these players had become as close to universally town read as you possibly can early game, and I generally love when pl!years push back hard against the status quo whether I agree with the read or not because it generates a lot of attention (and, interestingly enough, is the main reason people are pushing on him now).

This post is his first major town read, which is on vezok for making a series of posts that are "too easy to jump on". I find this a pretty unlikely reason to give from scum as a reason to town read someone in most cases, but it seems especially town from someone who often serves as lynchbait because he's finding something that happens most often to himself (doesn't temper the ridiculous shit he's saying as town, gets lynched) and using it as a way to read another player. I don't see the scum motivation in providing a read in this way, but town motivation is obvious.

This shift from aceofspades to Cephrir seems town as shit: the worry about looking bad for a move seems genuine (and why would he out it if talking about a scum partner? and if it looks bad because he's moving away from a scum partner, why the fuck would he say that aloud?) and is the opposite of an opportunistic move as he shifted from major wagon with support on lynchbait to a wagon that very distinctly was not lynchbait.

This claim is stupidly stupidly and seeing its existence and tiphaine still getting me votes pisses me off. 1) People claiming they are responsible for lack of kill with conviction is town. The only reason they are scum is if they are setting up a no kill gambit or they are coached into claiming responsibility. TD would not be the leader of a scumteam who decides "we are going to no kill tonight and I am going to claim responsibility". Second, the scumteam is not going to have their scum roleblocker claim honestly on Night 1: roleblocker is far and above the most important role for a scumteam to possess in a role madness game and putting tiphaine in this position is essentially the scumteam cutting both of its arms off. Thirdly, TD's reasoning makes complete fucking sense if town: if scum, they had TD target a town player who screamed "don't target me, don't target me" pretty much the entirety of yesterday, thus doing pretty much the only thing they could possibly do to cast doubt on something that would otherwise be a pretty gotcha claim? No. They fucking would not.

[Imperium]

Ozgin, why didn't you claim or mention your ultimate in #4860?

[farside22]

Mod: Sorry I'm a bit overwhelmed. Please replace me. I was hopping things would get better

[Ozgin]

Ozgin, why didn't you claim or mention your ultimate in #4860?

It's more of a weakness than an ultimate, it just about puts me out of the game after I use it. I want it concealed in order to protect myself. I don't think it's helpful to reveal a huge weakness, especially since the risk is (in my opinion) completely not worth the reward at this stage in the game.

[Cephrir]

these replacements tho

ozgin, why are you assuming you will be alive tomorrow, that seems very unlikely