Open 585: Jungle Republic (ended)

[Aristophanes]

Pk, you now have 3 options only for Wolf. You've been pushing a wolflynch pretty hard.
Of the three, who is wolf? Why no vote yet?

Things lioke that after making the last three posts you did make you look scummy, just fyi. I didnt vote because I didnt want a lynch yet. And I didnt say that because I don't need to impress anyone.

I don't see how this makes me look scummy, but okay.
I was asking why you didn't vote. Just because I am not ready to doesn't mean you aren't.
Thanks for letting me know though.

Does this mean you want to vote for West?

[prawneater]

I forgot who mentioned it, but the remaining wolf is essentially an SK.

I'm a little new to the site and I've never been in an SK game. How do you hunt for one?

I don't know who I like more as SK between Aristophanes and West9.

[West9]

Hey. I'm here. I'm not the wolf. ISOing through Prawn and Ari and Lal.

[Aristophanes]

As if you are hunting the last scum, but without associative talls from past teammate flips.

So basically, from gameplay, who flipped up as dead, and tone generally.
It's possibly slightly easier since we have Lal interactions, but how reliable those are we don't know.

And you're only 2 days newer than I here Js.

Ninja'd
Yeah, by doing what West is doing!

[West9]

I want to hear where West/Prawn are at right now.

Pre-ISO West thinks that it's more likely to be prawn.

[prawneater]

@Aristophanes What is SK tone?

[Aristophanes]

@Aristophanes What is SK tone?

That really depends who the SK is.
It is approached differently by each player. Generally there is something noteable about phrasing, surprise at flips, etc. but not always.
Some sound just really scummy.

There is no universal "SK tone" or it'd be easy

[West9]

Yeah, I so don't see Ari and Lal being wolfmates. Going really adversarial on each other like that on Day 1 doesn't make any sense to me.

VOTE: Prawn

Lal had a vague, static scumread on him day 1 that she didn't do anything with. Visa versa is also true. It could easily be scum distancing. And it's not like Prawn didn't try to make a last minute push for Ari before hammering.

[Aristophanes]

Prawn
Rather than asking me how to read an SK last night, why didn't you look back at West and I, and Lal since we're fortunate that it isn't an SK and there are associative tells?
If you did, can you tell us what you found?
If you didn't, can you get on that?

I reread Lal and from that alone, West seems the more likely Wolf.
There is distancing, a couple instances that look like coaching, and she seems to give everything he says so much more weight.

She also had a solid town read, as opposed to the wishy washy scum read on Prawn. I don't know which is more likely from scum Lal. I'm forgetting her reads from our scum game together. I'm going to look into that but I won't have an answer until tomorrow (unless I get ambitious at some point soon).
From what I remember though, she gave null-town reads on us, which is why I'm leaning West on that last point.

[Aristophanes]

This Game is the one where Lal {GimmeABreak85} and I were on a scum team together. In reading her Iso, look at how she treats PandoranPsycho, another scummate.
She calls him a hard town read early in the game with little reason. She interacts around her scummates a lot too, but tries to be indirect, as I see here with West.
I feel like here it translates into "using" West's Metal/Ari argument though still skirting it somehow, as well as being he only hard town read she had really. These are my reasons, within the Lal reasoning, for West as Werewolf.

I won't be voting until Prawn does something, unless deadline comes first. Lol

[Albert B. Rampage]

Let's not wait that long.

[Aristophanes]

Obviously not. I just kinda want ppl to weigh in.
Though, if it's not West, I know it's Prawn, so I guess there's no point really.

Screw it,
VOTE: West

[pisskop]

Intent.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Go ahead. Seer is already outed, don't wait for a claim.

[West9]

It's not me.

Still sure that Prawn is wolf.
ABR became a scumspect after yesterday and today.
Pisskop is still a scumspect.
Town might lose at this point.
Congrats to Lal for successfully setting me up.

[West9]

Is there a deadchat here? I can't wait to see how hard Lal is laughing at this cycle.

[pisskop]

vote: West

[West9]

It's also sad because town will definitely be losing farside tonight. Cheet, ABR, Pisskop, Prawn, and Ari is not a situation that I see town winning in.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Not exactly cup half full kind of guy, are you.

[pisskop]

If you are town you have failed the town. I suppose you could . . . idk . . . contribute next time so you don't appear so scuzzy?

[pisskop]

Farside, are you sure you peeped me, Vyse, and cheet?

[West9]

If you are town you have failed the town. I suppose you could . . . idk . . . contribute next time so you don't appear so scuzzy?

hahahahaha okay

[West9]

If you are town you have failed the town. I suppose you could . . . idk . . . contribute next time so you don't appear so scuzzy?

this is humorously unfair.

[West9]

"west is being too overdefensive"
"west didn't contribute enough"

justify all you want, but what got me lynched right now was false associative reads. i'm not bitter or anything, but please don't try to pass this off as anything other than non-wolves (including me) getting played by wolves.

[pisskop]

Wolf. (1) Unless Lal planned this out?

What do you think of Prawn?