New York 180 (Endgame)

Albert B. Rampage · Post Post #1875 (ISO) » Wed Feb 25, 2015 7:07 pm

Sorry, I realized during the night that I had mixed up my role pms with another game. I'm unfortunately a VT. My bad...

Ellie · Post Post #1876 (ISO) » Wed Feb 25, 2015 7:18 pm

That sounds believable

dragonspawn · Post Post #1877 (ISO) » Wed Feb 25, 2015 7:58 pm

So a vigilante or serial killer killed our first scum. Good job.

Going to check out some iso posts

dragonspawn · Post Post #1878 (ISO) » Wed Feb 25, 2015 8:15 pm

In post 313, pisskop wrote:
I get Shinobi, but why is Vikingfan getting scumread?

In post 586, pisskop wrote:
Viking's play has consistently been direct and has more of an outgoing newbtown than scum feel. He says things with confidence, and sometimes it feels like overreaching, but they always seem to show a clear thought process.
. For example, his 88 is similar to how I felt in response to Wake's 54. It's true I didn't like his 416, with how he doesn't explain his 'interesting' feelings towards Silverwolf or Grib, but I couldn't find any scum thinking 422 was adequate on its own. And in 497 he claims he isn't lynchbait, which is more newbtown overestimation. I would imagine any scum would try to play up their potential shelter.

Defending Viking quite a bit. He was also on my wagon rather than vikings.

Im having more serious doubts about Viking

Vote viking

Who did you investigate and what was the result?

dragonspawn · Post Post #1879 (ISO) » Wed Feb 25, 2015 8:28 pm

So why is it none of the claimed prs were touched?

FA_Q2 · Post Post #1880 (ISO) » Wed Feb 25, 2015 8:45 pm

In post 1875, Albert B. Rampage wrote:Sorry, I realized during the night that I had mixed up my role pms with another game. I'm unfortunately a VT. My bad...

That is all...

Albert B. Rampage · Post Post #1881 (ISO) » Wed Feb 25, 2015 8:47 pm

Vote: Viking

Not buying that scum didn't kill him.

FA_Q2 · Post Post #1882 (ISO) » Wed Feb 25, 2015 8:50 pm

In post 1877, dragonspawn wrote:So a vigilante or serial killer killed our first scum. Good job.

Going to check out some iso posts

We might have 2 scum teams here as well.

FA_Q2 · Post Post #1883 (ISO) » Wed Feb 25, 2015 8:55 pm

In post 1879, dragonspawn wrote:So why is it none of the claimed prs were touched?

Good Q.

Viking claimed cop, one of the roles that scum would want eliminated immediately. I also note that he claimed cop without any restriction in place and yet both flips are non-consecutive. That makes me wonder if viking is bullshitting here.

Ditto on who did you investigate last night.

vikingfan · Post Post #1884 (ISO) » Wed Feb 25, 2015 9:25 pm

I'm surprised ika didn't list it here but I was attacked last night and left for dead but was saved (I'm guessing by boon). I'm not sure if it was a result of being saved or not but I didn't get a result, I had investigated Shinobi. otherwise, if my getting attacked didn't stop the result, then I'm guessing pisskop did.

FA_Q2 · Post Post #1885 (ISO) » Wed Feb 25, 2015 9:36 pm

That makes some sense - scum would have expected you to attract protective roles and a roleblock would have circumvented that.

That means there is the possibility that there are 2 factions AND a SK/vigilante this game though. 3 town per night (or every other night) does not sound very good.

Albert B. Rampage · Post Post #1886 (ISO) » Wed Feb 25, 2015 9:39 pm

You're not supposed to be informed when you're saved...that means you're lying.

Albert B. Rampage · Post Post #1887 (ISO) » Wed Feb 25, 2015 9:41 pm

The scum flip does not suggest multiball as there's no faction identifier, either. The two kills probably came from the mafia and a lone shooter. Your statement that you were shot and saved isn't logical.

T S O · Post Post #1888 (ISO) » Wed Feb 25, 2015 9:42 pm

With all due respect to Boonskiies, it boggles me why he would be shot n1.

FA_Q2 · Post Post #1889 (ISO) » Wed Feb 25, 2015 9:48 pm

In post 1886, Albert B. Rampage wrote:You're not supposed to be informed when you're saved...that means you're lying.

Is that the standard here?

Nobody Special · Post Post #1890 (ISO) » Wed Feb 25, 2015 9:49 pm

Pretty much, yeah.

Albert B. Rampage · Post Post #1891 (ISO) » Wed Feb 25, 2015 9:56 pm

Not seeing a vote, NS.

Nobody Special · Post Post #1892 (ISO) » Wed Feb 25, 2015 10:00 pm

Probably because I haven't voted yet.

dragonspawn · Post Post #1893 (ISO) » Wed Feb 25, 2015 10:05 pm

In post 1884, vikingfan wrote:I'm surprised ika didn't list it here but I was attacked last night and left for dead but was saved (I'm guessing by boon). I'm not sure if it was a result of being saved or not but I didn't get a result, I had investigated Shinobi. otherwise, if my getting attacked didn't stop the result, then I'm guessing pisskop did.

So the roadblocks was killed and yet you were somehow blocked.

And you were attacked but still alive despite the fact that we have two dead. And you know this how exactly?

Sorry. I don't buy it.

And why did you choose shinobi?

MathBlade · Post Post #1894 (ISO) » Wed Feb 25, 2015 11:46 pm

VOTE: Albert B. Rampage

I think one of Albert/vikingfan is scum.

Albert is too good to talk about another game. This situation almost looks engineered in a sense for me to vote vikingfan. It feels too easy. Plus ABR faked claimed so I am not surprised he wasn't targetted as his claims should not be trusted as I said. His vote on vikingfan looks like aiming for low hanging fruit he could have set up with pisskop.
On the other hand, vikingfan saying he knew he was protected while roleblocked is sketchy as fuck. ABR's point makes sense but we don't know all of their role. It seems like there may be modifiers to every role. Furthermore, pisskop defending vikingfan lends towards his claim being fake. Combining this with my d1 vibe, it is hard to not have a large FoS on pisskop.

I think either of these two should be lynched but am voting ABR for discussion. Both of these two deserve intense pressure.

elusive · Post Post #1895 (ISO) » Thu Feb 26, 2015 12:00 am

Whoever killed pisskop, <3

@ika, What happens if a player is murdered and healed, are they still able to use their action? What information do they get if any?

vikingfan · Post Post #1896 (ISO) » Thu Feb 26, 2015 1:58 am

ABR seems WAY too convenient. Every time I've ever claimed as town, I always go back to my PMs, look carefully at the right one, and paraphrase as closely as possible. Of course, if he's scum, then his play makes perfect sense and it bought him at least a day without being lynched. Now, of course, that he's alive, he needs a valid reason why he didn't track and clear me last night as he said he would. And I didn't say for sure that I was roleblocked, just that I think it's likely. And think about it, if I'm really the cop, as scum knows I am, their first choice is going to be to roleblock me so I don't get any useful information.

As for why I picked Shinobi, ellie fishing to be investigated reminded me of a mafia gf so I didn't want to go after her, NJ seemed to be the first target of today's lynch, and I wanted to look at the longer game and try and pick someone who might be around who could be helpful and seemed confusing to town and he fit. Not much more to it than that.

elusive · Post Post #1897 (ISO) » Thu Feb 26, 2015 4:43 am

ABR caused waste for town so he should be lynched regardless.
However, we're forgetting the bs NakedJogger pulled and all the people on klingons wagon who prevented a scum lynch. So, I'm phone posting right now but tonight I will look through everyone and the wagons and day two we will lynch a damn scum.

Viking or anyone ISO pisskop for interaction analysis. Ty.

Cheetory6 · Post Post #1898 (ISO) » Thu Feb 26, 2015 4:53 am

VOTE: FA

dragonspawn · Post Post #1899 (ISO) » Thu Feb 26, 2015 5:03 am

In post 1898, Cheetory6 wrote:VOTE: FA

care to explain? While I still have questions on FA at the moment there seem to be much better options.