Mafia 64: The New "C9" - Game over!

[Albert B. Rampage]

Albert: xyzzy made sense, and you tried to laugh away his post. That looked a bit scummy to me. Now, you want to wait for his analysis, I understand that, but then you OMGUS voted Yogurt for just agreeing with me that your "defense" post was iffy. Now THAT was scummy.

Made sense ? MADE SENSE !?!?!?? LOL!!!

*Sigh*

I'm nearly done with my analysis of this crazy game, but I want to point out the general theme of the analysis:

ABR is scum.

I know, I know, he always acts scummy, but he's acting entirely different. He's... still throwing scumtells all over, but it's not the ones he usually throws. I can't put my finger on it, but he's definitely hiding something. Not acting normal AT ALL.

Vote: ABR

What makes sense out of this ? Besides flawed meta-gaming theories, what is there to this post that makes sense ?!?

I took your post as a joke. YB QFT-ing is NON-SENSICAL. What's this about a "defense" ? His attack consisted of "I have analyzed things and I will show you later, but for now I think Rampage is suspicious". How is one supposed to defend against that ?

FoS: Guardian, Yosarian2

[YogurtBandit]

EBWOP: I also dont understand

cross out make snese on.

[YogurtBandit]

Albert, you are throwing a major hissy fit because someone is suspicous of you.Xyzzy did make sense. He said he thought you were scum. maybe you just dont want to understand that.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Albert, you are throwing a major hissy fit because someone is suspicous of you.Xyzzy did make sense. He said he thought you were scum. maybe you just dont want to understand that.

Confirm vote: YB

Yosarian said he made sense before he exposed his reasons, you quoted him for truth. Scummy as hell.

[YogurtBandit]

Albert, you are throwing a major hissy fit because someone is suspicous of you.Xyzzy did make sense. He said he thought you were scum. maybe you just dont want to understand that.

Confirm vote: YB

Yosarian said he made sense before he exposed his reasons, you quoted him for truth. Scummy as hell.

Um, I said Xyzzy made sense too. So stop trying to throw this arguement into your favor.

[Guardian]

Albert just exploded and OMGUS'd 3 people. I am tempted to vote.

You WAY overreacted. And are still doing so.

[Albert B. Rampage]

What exactly made sense ? He didn't say anything. Yos and you don't even know my playstyle, YB. How can you say his meta-gaming theories make sense or not ?

[Glork]

Unvote, Vote: Albert

Xyzzy's post made perfect sense:
-He pointed out that you claim to always play scummy
-He accurately stated that in spite of this claim, you have repeatedly given off

SEVERAL

scumtells
-He stated that the sheer volume of your scummy behavior cannot be excused by your earlier claim to "scummy play"



Now, you've gone and given off another gigantic scumtell via mass OMGUS. That's certainly enough for me.

[Glork]

EBWOP: To clarfy, Albert -- scummy play is scummy play, regardless of the meta. There comes a point where, no matter how much you claim that you always look scummy in other games or in general, you become responsible for your behavior

HERE AND NOW, IN THIS GAME

. Xyzzy is holding you accountable for your actions.


I don't see how his post could possibly *not* make sense. It makes *perfect* sense to everybody but you, it seems. Now quit throwing a tantrum and die already.

[MrBuddyLee]

Shteven's so argumentative and contentious he looks protown to me. (I was fooled by a player like this in LO2 however.) If I had to peg two scum I'd probably go with Albert and HungryJoe. My hesitation on Albert is that he posts a lot and on varied topics, shows a fair amount of curiosity, but I'm concluding that it's for appearances and not for scumhunting purposes as it doesn't actually move the game forward very often.

TCS seems borderline pro-town to me.
Inhim, can you please weigh in on the leading wagons--not just the people on the chopping block but the quality of the cases made by each player on them? I know it's a bit of work, but I don't have a good sense for your postion right now other than that Guardian is scum.

vote: Albert

YB has posted a lot since my last evaluation of him, and I need to reread him to see if he's still smelling townish.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Unvote, Vote: Albert

Xyzzy's post made perfect sense:
-He pointed out that you claim to always play scummy
-He accurately stated that in spite of this claim, you have repeatedly given off

SEVERAL

scumtells
-He stated that the sheer volume of your scummy behavior cannot be excused by your earlier claim to "scummy play"



Now, you've gone and given off another gigantic scumtell via mass OMGUS. That's certainly enough for me.

1) I claim no such thing.

2) So have other players.

3) Once again, where did I claim I scummy play ?

This is baseless.

[YogurtBandit]

Unvote, Vote: Albert

Xyzzy's post made perfect sense:
-He pointed out that you claim to always play scummy
-He accurately stated that in spite of this claim, you have repeatedly given off

SEVERAL

scumtells
-He stated that the sheer volume of your scummy behavior cannot be excused by your earlier claim to "scummy play"



Now, you've gone and given off another gigantic scumtell via mass OMGUS. That's certainly enough for me.

1) I claim no such thing.

2) So have other players.

3) Once again, where did I claim I scummy play ?

This is baseless.

Oh man, wait till I find that quote.

[Glork]

EBWOP Again: Xyzzy furhtermore asserts that while you may appear scummy in all of your games, you exhibit a

different kind of scumminess

this time around. Remember how BM said (and I paraphrase) "guys, if you think I'm always scummy, you shoud look at whether this is typical BM-play or unusual BM-play. That'll probably lead you to deciding what my alignment is." That's exactly what Xyzzy did, and it is

the correct way to approach "always-scummy" players.

So in that respect, his claim also makes sense. Now granted, I expect him to explain *WHY* he thinks you are behaving differently this time around, but in the meantime, he has at the very least provided his reason for switching.

[Albert B. Rampage]

EBWOP Again: Xyzzy furhtermore asserts that while you may appear scummy in all of your games, you exhibit a

different kind of scumminess

this time around. Remember how BM said (and I paraphrase) "guys, if you think I'm always scummy, you shoud look at whether this is typical BM-play or unusual BM-play. That'll probably lead you to deciding what my alignment is." That's exactly what Xyzzy did, and it is

the correct way to approach "always-scummy" players.

So in that respect, his claim also makes sense. Now granted, I expect him to explain *WHY* he thinks you are behaving differently this time around, but in the meantime, he has at the very least provided his reason for switching.

EXACTLY

. How are Yos and YB supposed to say that make sense when they don't know my playstyle "as well" as xyzzy ?

[YogurtBandit]

Alright I'll soldier up then.

But I warn you not to blame me for all that anti-town behavior

when I'm found as townie. And don't judge me on this game's performance.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Asking for a replacement is anti-town. That's what I was referring to. Go fetch me another quote.

[Glork]

You stated that you enjoy bandwagoning just for the sake of getting information and forcing claims. Shteven's response was that he won't go read up on other games just to see if that kind of play is consistent with you being town. Nevertheless, I remember giving you a firm lecture on why your chosen playstyle was both scummy and bad strategy.

[Glork]

EXACTLY

. How are Yos and YB supposed to say that make sense when they don't know my playstyle "as well" as xyzzy ?

Because the point is that they understand

WHY XYZZY MOVED HIS VOTE TO YOU

.


Durr.

[Albert B. Rampage]

You stated that you enjoy bandwagoning just for the sake of getting information and forcing claims. Shteven's response was that he won't go read up on other games just to see if that kind of play is consistent with you being town. Nevertheless, I remember giving you a firm lecture on why your chosen playstyle was both scummy and bad strategy.

You came to that faulty conclusion yourself, dear sir. With your famous "when one quarter of the town acts scummy on purpose, I get mad" speech.

I do not find I play scummy. Bandwagonning is a valid strategy to find scum.

[YogurtBandit]

<snip>
I'm not asking you to believe I'm town.
<snip>

Albert, if you're not even asking us to, then why should we? :\. Statements like that really don't help you out at all.

I meant that I don't ask you to believe I'm town because I'm whining like a bitch and threatening to slit my wrists. I'm staying so I can help find scum, and that will be enough to prove me town or scum. Now gimme til monday.

???

[Albert B. Rampage]

EXACTLY

. How are Yos and YB supposed to say that make sense when they don't know my playstyle "as well" as xyzzy ?

Because the point is that they understand

WHY XYZZY MOVED HIS VOTE TO YOU

.


Durr.

No they do not understand. They just agree "yes Albert is scummy" and don't even think of the reasoning of xyzzy, or why I must be scum. They just rely on their emotions.

[Albert B. Rampage]

<snip>
I'm not asking you to believe I'm town.
<snip>

Albert, if you're not even asking us to, then why should we? :\. Statements like that really don't help you out at all.

I meant that I don't ask you to believe I'm town because I'm whining like a bitch and threatening to slit my wrists. I'm staying so I can help find scum, and that will be enough to prove me town or scum. Now gimme til monday.

???

Again referring to asking for a replacement. You are searching in vain, I have never said I always play scummy. In many of my ongoing games I am not at all scummy.

[YogurtBandit]

Heh. We seem to be having a fundamental breakdown in communication, Albert.

Why did you not pursue more information regarding

Johhan

and choose to go after somebody

who was being suspected by somebody else

?

Double-posted that last one.

I don't want to bandwagon, bandwagonning is the means I use to gain information, being the end.

Also, how can I pursue it if he is inactive...?

Oh no.

I do not find I play scummy. Bandwagonning is a valid strategy to find scum.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Heh. We seem to be having a fundamental breakdown in communication, Albert.

Why did you not pursue more information regarding

Johhan

and choose to go after somebody

who was being suspected by somebody else

?

Double-posted that last one.

I don't want to bandwagon, bandwagonning is the means I use to gain information, being the end.

Also, how can I pursue it if he is inactive...?

Yes, that's what I

just said

. BANDWAGONING IS THE MEANS I USE TO GAIN INFORMATION, BEING THE END.

Means to an end. Bandwagonning is the means, gaining information is the end. If I am not going to gain information, then I won't bandwagon.

Verify your quotes before making a fool of yourself.

[YogurtBandit]

You dont want to but you do???