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Post Post #4700 (ISO) » Sat Feb 21, 2015 12:12 pm

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In post 4684, T S O wrote:How come our neighbourhood's protection on Beast isn't seen as relevant yet mastin's doing the same to multiple people and it is?
Combination of player weight and player trust.

Players might not be entirely sure I'm town, but they hold enough trust in me to take my word for it, especially given that it's ME.

Players hold very little confidence in you being town, certainly don't trust you, and don't particularly put as much stock in your opinions.

Hard truth, I know.
Mind you, I AM not-happy with the beast lynch and am advocating for the TD lynch.

The question is, if you want to save beast so badly...why aren't
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(Especially given your TD push previously.)
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beastcharizard, your protection, is the current default.
There's never going to be a better chance to get TD lynched.

So why aren't you going all ballistic to save beast?
Why are you being so passive?
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Post Post #4701 (ISO) » Sat Feb 21, 2015 12:16 pm

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There are so many inaccurate statements in that post i dont even know where to start.
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Post Post #4702 (ISO) » Sat Feb 21, 2015 12:24 pm

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My comment about Pere wasn't fake. I didn't want to lynch him D1, but I'm not surprised he flipped scum. I don't get what's so hard to understand about that. Have you never felt that way about anyone before?

As for neighborhood, anything I'd post there is something I'd post here, so I haven't had any need to post there. But that doesn't mean I haven't read it or tried figuring ya'll out.
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Post Post #4703 (ISO) » Sat Feb 21, 2015 12:25 pm

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In post 4702, FourTrouble wrote:My comment about Pere wasn't fake. I didn't want to lynch him D1, but I'm not surprised he flipped scum. I don't get what's so hard to understand about that. Have you never felt that way about anyone before?

As for neighborhood, anything I'd post there is something I'd post here, so I haven't had any need to post there. But that doesn't mean I haven't read it or tried figuring ya'll out.

This was directed at farside.
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Post Post #4704 (ISO) » Sat Feb 21, 2015 12:26 pm

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Okay, so most of the neighborhoods have 4 players. So I'm guessing there's 6 neighborhoods?
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Post Post #4705 (ISO) » Sat Feb 21, 2015 12:26 pm

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Or 7? One with 3 players?
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Post Post #4706 (ISO) » Sat Feb 21, 2015 12:32 pm

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In post 4701, TheWayItEnds wrote:There are so many inaccurate statements in that post i dont even know where to start.

What's inaccurate about it? Looks fine to me.
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Post Post #4707 (ISO) » Sat Feb 21, 2015 12:33 pm

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Mastin, why do you prefer TD to beast?
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Post Post #4708 (ISO) » Sat Feb 21, 2015 12:36 pm

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In post 4684, T S O wrote:How come our neighbourhood's protection on Beast isn't seen as relevant yet mastin's doing the same to multiple people and it is?

Also btw this is a bullshit question -- because in case you didn't notice, beast is on the chopping block while mastin's folks aren't.
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Post Post #4709 (ISO) » Sat Feb 21, 2015 12:45 pm

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In post 4704, FourTrouble wrote:Okay, so most of the neighborhoods have 4 players. So I'm guessing there's 6 neighborhoods?

In post 4705, FourTrouble wrote:Or 7? One with 3 players?

There's probably seven since there's seven pantheons in the video game.

I'm still more for a beastcharizard lynch, if for no other reason than to just save dramonic the trouble of finding a replacement. I think there's a decent chance all 3 of the people farside chose are town, though.
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Post Post #4710 (ISO) » Sat Feb 21, 2015 12:54 pm

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Okay, let's say 7 neighborhoods. How many mafia do you think there are?
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Post Post #4711 (ISO) » Sat Feb 21, 2015 12:55 pm

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Anti's estimate is five, so I'll go with that.
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Post Post #4712 (ISO) » Sat Feb 21, 2015 12:55 pm

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In post 4707, FourTrouble wrote:Mastin, why do you prefer TD to beast?
Because TD has been a minor scumread of mine the entire game, whereas beast has been a nullish-town read of mine the entire game, where he continues to remain.
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Post Post #4713 (ISO) » Sat Feb 21, 2015 12:59 pm

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In post 4670, dramonic wrote:BeastCharizard (7): Imperium, Skybird, Cephrir, theaceofspades, FourTrouble, TheWayItEnds, Metal Sonic
FourTrouble (4): Ooba, magua, vezokpiraka, Heartless
TiphaineDeath (2): Mastin2, Farside22
Not Voting: Rachmarie, Ankamius, ZZZX, Solar Wind, beastcharizard, The Mask, Bitmap, Xombie, TSO, FourTrouble, TiphaineDeath
I mean, on the beast wagon, the best names on there are Ceph and FT and MS. It's not godawful, but it's not great.
On FT, we've got better names, but still a general "meh" vibe.
Honestly it wouldn't surprise me if all three were town and scum are hanging near-exclusively in the Not Voters, lurking this whole thing out because they don't care about the outcome.
But if one of them IS scum.

It'd be most likely TD.
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Post Post #4714 (ISO) » Sat Feb 21, 2015 1:01 pm

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In [url=/forum/viewtopic.php?p=6619077#p6619077]post 4713[/url], mastin2 wrote:Not Voting:
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Post Post #4715 (ISO) » Sat Feb 21, 2015 1:03 pm

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In post 4711, Heartless wrote:Anti's estimate is five, so I'll go with that.

5? I suppose that's plausible.

With 7 neighborhoods, that means at least 2 neighborhoods are all town. I'm thinking 6 mafia makes more sense. That would mean at least 1 neighborhood is all town. Of course, there could be neighborhoods with multiple mafia, and more all town neighborhoods.
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Post Post #4716 (ISO) » Sat Feb 21, 2015 1:04 pm

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In post 4714, mastin2 wrote:
In [url=/forum/viewtopic.php?p=6619077#p6619077]post 4713[/url], mastin2 wrote:Not Voting:
Rachmarie
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Ankamius
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TSO
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TiphaineDeath
As just a small sample selection.

With the exception of TD, this was the reads list I posted about half an hour ago in the pantheon PT.
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Post Post #4717 (ISO) » Sat Feb 21, 2015 1:05 pm

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Mastin, if people thought you were so good, why did AP get lynched despite you trying 100% for hours to stop it?
"i have the sickest grossest feeling that even if it's my lynch today, my townflip still won't lead to a tso lynch, and then he'll find some bullshit way to reason either shooting or lynching gm tomorrow because if there's anyone who can strongarm a mislynch despite his reads or cases being proved wrong time and again it's tso"
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Post Post #4718 (ISO) » Sat Feb 21, 2015 1:06 pm

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That would pretty heavily suggest that, no, people don't particularly put much stock in your opinions these days.
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Post Post #4719 (ISO) » Sat Feb 21, 2015 1:06 pm

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In post 4715, FourTrouble wrote:With 7 neighborhoods, that means at least 2 neighborhoods are all town. I'm thinking 6 mafia makes more sense. That would mean at least 1 neighborhood is all town. Of course, there could be neighborhoods with multiple mafia, and more all town neighborhoods.

Thought I had that I also posted in the PT:
If Metal Sonic really is a racist, I think it's likely the rest of his and AP's pantheons are all town. My current reads mostly support that anyway and it makes sense from a game theory standpoint.
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Post Post #4720 (ISO) » Sat Feb 21, 2015 1:07 pm

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In post 4717, T S O wrote:Mastin, if people thought you were so good, why did AP get lynched despite you trying 100% for hours to stop it?

T S O wrote:That would pretty heavily suggest that, no, people don't particularly put much stock in your opinions these days.

People who stir the shit pot should have to lick the spoon.
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Post Post #4721 (ISO) » Sat Feb 21, 2015 1:07 pm

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In post 4708, FourTrouble wrote:
In post 4684, T S O wrote:How come our neighbourhood's protection on Beast isn't seen as relevant yet mastin's doing the same to multiple people and it is?

Also btw this is a bullshit question -- because in case you didn't notice, beast is on the chopping block while mastin's folks aren't.


I don't think you read what I posted right - if you did, you would not have responded with this, because it's arguing in favor of my point.
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Post Post #4722 (ISO) » Sat Feb 21, 2015 1:08 pm

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Stirring the shit pot is fine when one person continues to insist their shit smells like roses.
"i have the sickest grossest feeling that even if it's my lynch today, my townflip still won't lead to a tso lynch, and then he'll find some bullshit way to reason either shooting or lynching gm tomorrow because if there's anyone who can strongarm a mislynch despite his reads or cases being proved wrong time and again it's tso"
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Post Post #4723 (ISO) » Sat Feb 21, 2015 1:09 pm

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So what's the implication here TSO? Are you calling mastin scum?
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Post Post #4724 (ISO) » Sat Feb 21, 2015 1:23 pm

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The implication is that next time instead of making post 4700, dont.
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