New York 180 (Endgame)

[Wake1]

recap:

shinobi lead tso push. Tso speaks, the wagon falls apart.

Viking digs himself a hole. A counter wagon on me starts. It falls apart and Viking looks more scummy claims cop.

house and I discuss his horse

wagon on abr starts till he claims tracker for no apparent reason.

klingon asks something stupid and a wagon pops up. Still here.

I don't particularly like the wagon so I've been looking for alternatives. Since we have a deadline I'm settling on the nk counter wagon cause I've found him scummier than klingon. Course we still have time.

if I've missed anything let me know. And answer my questions wake

In a nutshell, what do you make of Shinobi's play thus far?

How soon did a counter-wagon on you form once VF apparently dug himself a hole? Him claiming Cop is rather serious business.

Are you certain ABR claimed without any apparent reason?

I would appreciate it if you explained to me why the NJ lynch is more deserved than the other players you have listed in this post.

[Boonskiies]

You are kidding, right? Ellie was borderline trying to claim mason with you, elusive.

[vikingfan]

Boonskiies, I'm not sure what connection you see between me and Ellie as there is no in-game connection and idk about the rest. Wake have you played with Ellie before and know of their play style?

This post just makes ellie jump to the top of my scum list for basically softclaiming some sort of mason/lover thing but obviously elusive says that's not true. Dang, I wish we had more time to promote an ellie lynch.

[Boonskiies]

VOTE: Ellie

I'm on neither of the main wagons anyways.

[Boonskiies]

If we can't do it, you know what to do Viking.

[Wake1]

VOTE: Ellie

I'm on neither of the main wagons anyways.

So if time starts to run out who would you settle on?

[Boonskiies]

NJ, but I really don't want to.

[Boonskiies]

I don't think we should settle on any of those two.

[pisskop]

I guess who I'd vote comes down to who will tell me the most with their flip.
. Klingon claimed VT, House softed neighbor with Klingon. Besides her reads, I'm not seeing any other benefit.
. NJ was a townread independent of his interactions and reads. His flip will only affect those pushing him.

Vote: Klingon

I'm not sure what connection you see between me and Ellie as there is no in-game connection

Really?

[pisskop]

VOTE: Ellie

I'm on neither of the main wagons anyways.

I don't see 11 votes on her . . .

[Boonskiies]

I don't want either of them lynched. I really don't. VOTE ELLIE!!!!

@Pisskop - she's not a main wagon...I was on elusive beforehand, meaning I wasn't on NJ or Kling...

[estival]

Ellie what did that whole thing mean? Can you explain or not?

Yes, because I have meta on another place as "the towniest town to town the town" and it may be Ellie is from there but the silence and lack of reveal makes me wonder. I'm not that clever Ellie, except for few intuitive moments, and you should know if you knew me that if you don't spell it out I don't get it. Like I totally did not get MathBlade's hints throughout the Last Game or I totally got them wrong.

[vikingfan]

I'd be happy with either klingon or ellie. Dang this deadline! ellie just looks to me like lying scum.

Let me ask this question now: do enough people here think ellie is scum that we can get enough people to flip to her from NJ and klingon? Or just accept that one of these two is going down today? We have a little more than 9 hours.

who is estival? an alt? please clarify who you are.

[estival]

oh no posted with my alt, eff whatever (once the current games elusive is in ends this will be my main because that name was chosen at a weird moment in time)

[Wake1]

@Everyone:

If you had to choose between pisskop, Ellie, and vikingfan, which would you go for and why?

BONUS:

List these three in order from most suspicious to least.

[vikingfan]

@Everyone:

If you had to choose between pisskop, Ellie, and vikingfan, which would you go for and why?

BONUS:

List these three in order from most suspicious to least.

Why are you doing this now with 9 hours to deadline? especially with night results upcoming?

[Ozgin]

Hey, Klingcelt, does your butt hurt?

You know, from that fence you keep sitting on

Ask the other USMBers that one. Hopefully they'll set you straight. Or I could.

I don't like voting unless I'm pretty sure.

There is one thing that I'm 100% sure of - if I get lynched today, Town will lose the game. Guaranteed.

I don't like this arrogance. Like yeah, every townie is vital to our success, because our goal is basically to survive, but one mislynch won't put us in the coffin.

I also don't like that Klingon refers to everyone as "town", as if they were separated entities from herself:

"Town will lose the game."

In 1444 and in 1446 she also referred to the "town" as a separate entity like, "HEY TOWN" and "Town, ignore him." But I'm pretty sure that's just my petty obsession with semantics.

As far as the wagons go, I don't care for either the NJ or the Kling wagon. Even though I don't particularly like the way Klingon interacts with the town, I don't think that makes her scum. I think her post 1450 was just an idle threat because she's desperate. Even though elusive (I think it was elusive, my short term is scrambling to absorb all of this information) raised the only point against NJ I could kinda see, it still just feels wrong to me. It feels like a stretch.

If it comes down to a forced decision, I'll be more inclined to vote Kling out of the bias I formed in the last 10 minutes of reading her posts, but that's because I think both wagons are dumb and they should only be voted on if need be because of the time constraint.

@Everyone:

If you had to choose between pisskop, Ellie, and vikingfan, which would you go for and why?

BONUS:

List these three in order from most suspicious to least.

Let me do a little research, I'll get back to you on that in a little bit, but with so little time left I don't think this is going to be fruitful until Day 2.

[Wake1]

@Everyone:

If you had to choose between pisskop, Ellie, and vikingfan, which would you go for and why?

BONUS:

List these three in order from most suspicious to least.

Why are you doing this now with 9 hours to deadline? especially with night results upcoming?

Why are you attempting to stifle discussion?

[vikingfan]

@Everyone:

If you had to choose between pisskop, Ellie, and vikingfan, which would you go for and why?

BONUS:

List these three in order from most suspicious to least.

Why are you doing this now with 9 hours to deadline? especially with night results upcoming?

Why are you attempting to stifle discussion?

I'm not stifling, just attempting to clear away white noise with so little time until lynch. Feel free to bring it up day 2 if we're still around.

BTW, any reason you chose the 3 of us in your list?

[dragonspawn]

Viking Ellie pisskop

I'm highly skeptical of Vikings claim. Ellie has been soft claiming mason with elusive and elusive denies it

wake when are you going to answer my questions?

[dragonspawn]

Wake shinobi has been someone I am keeping my eye on. I don't particularly care with his game play. But I'm not really sure I have hard evidence.

[Wake1]

Viking Ellie pisskop

I'm highly skeptical of Vikings claim. Ellie has been soft claiming mason with elusive and elusive denies it

wake when are you going to answer my questions?

Highlight those questions in numbered format please, and I'll answer them to the best of my abilities.

[Ellie]

elusive, 1397 sounded like you understood

[Ellie]

I never claimed mason. I said a missing puzzle piece could explain my posts, and that I doubt elusive would be lynched. Both statements are 100% true. Hardly my fault you guys misinterpreted.

[Ellie]

If you had to choose between pisskop, Ellie, and vikingfan, which would you go for and why?

pisskop only. I believe vikingfan's claim.