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Post Post #1300 (ISO) » Sat Jul 07, 2007 3:47 pm

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Albert B. Rampage wrote:Grek, who in the mansion do you consider most untouchable by innocents ? I mean, who should you
not
attack if you are innocent ?

(Edited the quote out because of irrelevence)

Double Edit: Yagami, same question to you.
Didn't notice the question to me. I think we should start by killing the people who seem most dangerous right now, such as BB who has claimed ghost, and Khel, though it seems dangerous just to be in his room with the power he has. After them, I'm not sure, I would reread when we arrive there to make decisions.
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Post Post #1301 (ISO) » Sat Jul 07, 2007 4:51 pm

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hmm,

Well I'm basically worthless. so..

*smiles*
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Post Post #1302 (ISO) » Sat Jul 07, 2007 4:53 pm

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Why are you worthless ?
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Post Post #1303 (ISO) » Sat Jul 07, 2007 5:51 pm

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3 guesses!
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Post Post #1304 (ISO) » Sat Jul 07, 2007 9:38 pm

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Why to distrust priests:
Part of this comes from my own status as a ghost. My partner (whom I will not reveal) and I, being ghosts, are part of the priests' victory condition (i.e. They have to kill us to win). This is only a small part of my reasons to distrust the priests

Eh, I see your point. There's one thing I'm afraid of, though: Since I wasn't born a priest, I'm not sure if I have a lesser win condition (Since no priests are RCing either); I don't have any items but the crucifix and no abilities but exorcise/heal.


, though, since I don't have to be alive to win, I just have to ensure that at least one innocent survives. My main reason for distrusting the priests comes from looking at game theory. What if the priests decided to drop all pretense and kill every non-priest?

This depends on the innocent win condition. We still don't have the defintion of 'survival', which very may be to kill all ghosts.


Early on, this strategy isn't really viable, since they are greatly outnumbered, but the closer we get to endgame as more innocents are killed off, the more this becomes a good strategy for the priests. Looking at the stats for most of the weapons in the game, priests take less damage than innocents, so in an otherwise even competition, innocents can't stand up to them in combat, so the battle will inevitably be priests vs ghosts, with the innocents getting caught in the middle and slaughtered.

Slaughtered, by both sides. You forgot how the innocents are also the largest group, with therefore more weapons. They are a powerful faction, and will need to choose between priests and ghosts.


It is this sort of endgame that I hope to avoid. I'm not saying we adopt a "kill all priests" strategy, but we should certainly keep an eye on them. This is why I am supportive of killing JDodge. If he's a ghost, killing him helps my win condition. If he's a priest, killing him has no effect on my win condition (I only care about innocents), and helps to avoid the endgame scenario I described.
Either way, priests, The Greg needs to die. He's working against us, and we need to exorcise him, regardless of what anyone else wants, IMO. RC and tell me what you think :P
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Post Post #1305 (ISO) » Sat Jul 07, 2007 10:16 pm

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Xdaamno is very avid on priests roleclaiming
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Post Post #1306 (ISO) » Sat Jul 07, 2007 10:44 pm

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I thought you'd read the whole game, Tamuz. What, are you implying me as a ghost that can exorcise, heal, and wants to kill ghosts?
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Post Post #1307 (ISO) » Sun Jul 08, 2007 4:23 am

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Here is my personal policy I am instituting from now on. I am instituting this because of my low health, combined with the way a couple people have said they want to kill me.


If you attack me and I take damage from that attack, I will make you my next kill.


There--it's that simple. If you attack me and I don't take damage, that will probably be because of my armor or because you don't hurt innocents with your attack in the first place.

I am at low health, so that is why I have such an ultimatum against attacks against me. Mokina already said exorcism proved negative against me--any other priests who would like to independently verify this can. Until then, I will hack away at one suspected ghost per turn. I only have physical prowess--nothing else.
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Post Post #1308 (ISO) » Sun Jul 08, 2007 4:25 am

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Missing:

-Pbug
-Autoload
-Hadf


Hadf may need a replacement.
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Post Post #1309 (ISO) » Sun Jul 08, 2007 4:44 am

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Sorry, I'm still here! Won't happen again!
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Post Post #1310 (ISO) » Sun Jul 08, 2007 5:55 am

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Khelvaster wrote:Here is my personal policy I am instituting from now on. I am instituting this because of my low health, combined with the way a couple people have said they want to kill me.


If you attack me and I take damage from that attack, I will make you my next kill.


There--it's that simple. If you attack me and I don't take damage, that will probably be because of my armor or because you don't hurt innocents with your attack in the first place.

I am at low health, so that is why I have such an ultimatum against attacks against me. Mokina already said exorcism proved negative against me--any other priests who would like to independently verify this can. Until then, I will hack away at one suspected ghost per turn. I only have physical prowess--nothing else.
You have unrelenting idiocy as well, but I see you're not adding that part in?
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Post Post #1311 (ISO) » Sun Jul 08, 2007 6:04 am

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JDodge wrote:You have unrelenting idiocy as well, but I see you're not adding that part in?
So you are unarmed now ?
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Post Post #1312 (ISO) » Sun Jul 08, 2007 6:54 am

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No xdaam (mind you items though....)

But your getting everything in the open seems slightly stupid when information helps ghosts more than innocents.
Iunno what I'd do with a list of priests, or ghosts for that matter, other than help me avoid.
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Post Post #1313 (ISO) » Sun Jul 08, 2007 8:06 am

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No, it dosen't. Information helps priests a lot more since we don't know who each other are. Another mafia analogy:

Which would be more beneficial to either side:

The scum knowing who the powerful mason group were, or
The entire town knowing who the scum were?

EDIT: Wait, that's a bad analagy. I'll do another one in a few minutes.
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Post Post #1314 (ISO) » Sun Jul 08, 2007 8:10 am

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Who are the claimed priests ? JDodge and Mokina only ?
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Post Post #1315 (ISO) » Sun Jul 08, 2007 8:12 am

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Albert B. Rampage wrote:Who are the claimed priests ? JDodge and Mokina only ?
:shock:
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Post Post #1316 (ISO) » Sun Jul 08, 2007 8:12 am

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Once again
Xdaamno, you're a complete fucking idiot. :)


This is not mafia. Not everything is black and white.


And for the last fucking time, Mokina is not a priest. She is going to be the winner of this game. :P

JDodge is a ghost.

Xdaamno is a dead priest (as of the end of this bloodbath).

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Post Post #1317 (ISO) » Sun Jul 08, 2007 8:13 am

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BB, it was a bad analogy, but mafia is the easiest thing to compare it to; not as a game, but for select scenarios.
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Post Post #1318 (ISO) » Sun Jul 08, 2007 8:15 am

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Xdaamno wrote:BB, it was a bad analogy, but mafia is the easiest thing to compare it to; not as a game, but for select scenarios.
Well that was a terrible analogy.

Because it makes no sense. And for all we know Priests are mafia too bent on destroying all of us.

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHH.

But yes I agree with you on whatever you're trying to get done before you die.
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Post Post #1319 (ISO) » Sun Jul 08, 2007 8:16 am

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THESE PEOPLE, I HOPE WIN, THOUGH BOTH OF THEM WINNING IS PROBABLY INPROBABLE:

MOKINA

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Post Post #1320 (ISO) » Sun Jul 08, 2007 8:17 am

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Yus, please commit suicide :P

I know I'm dead, through you or whoever the fuck's going to kill me, but I'd rather use my death working towards my win condition. What you miss is that
I used to be an innocent
. I know the win conditions of both of the two factions, and they're the same.
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Post Post #1321 (ISO) » Sun Jul 08, 2007 8:29 am

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Xdaamno wrote:
Either way, priests, The Greg needs to die.
Leave him for last if you have to kill him. He can bring people back to life, including priests. That is a very good thing for all the non-ghost factions, and anyone that wants him dead before the rest of the ghosts are dead is a ghost or very stupid.

Blackberry on the other hand, needs to die right away.
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Post Post #1322 (ISO) » Sun Jul 08, 2007 8:32 am

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Grek, who are you attacking ?
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Post Post #1323 (ISO) » Sun Jul 08, 2007 8:35 am

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No one, he stuck with me and Mokina in the Dreamworld.
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Post Post #1324 (ISO) » Sun Jul 08, 2007 8:36 am

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Ahh. How did you get rid of the clown mask ?
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