New York 180 (Endgame)

[Albert B. Rampage]

Dude if we get 2 masons to claim, my odds of surviving have just gone through the roof.

[SilverWolf]

Yeah OK, so vote elsewhere people.

[elusive]

Ellie, do I or my alter ego know you from somewhere else?

Vikingfan, do you have any original thoughts?

Boon, hmm...so voting you got you to actually try even if its a little tryhard much?

[Albert B. Rampage]

Ellie why were you so obvious as to out yourself as a mason with an over the top defense of your partner when she wasn't even in danger?

[MathBlade]

Not sure on him yet Ellie. Have better suspects.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Ellie, do I or my alter ego know you from somewhere else?

Vikingfan, do you have any original thoughts?

Boon, hmm...so voting you got you to actually try even if its a little tryhard much?

Confirm Ellie as your mason partner please. If not, I'm calling her bluff and going through with this lynch as she's trying to set it up as to look like she's masons with you.

[MathBlade]

Ellie why were you so obvious as to out yourself as a mason with an over the top defense of your partner when she wasn't even in danger?

Why didn't you catch it then? And I did oh humble mafia player who must be better than I am because I "suck"?

The last sentence is a defense of myself and is in no way meant a personal attack on ABR.

[MathBlade]

Ellie, do I or my alter ego know you from somewhere else?

Vikingfan, do you have any original thoughts?

Boon, hmm...so voting you got you to actually try even if its a little tryhard much?

Confirm Ellie as your mason partner please. If not, I'm calling her bluff and going through with this lynch as she's trying to set it up as to look like she's masons with you.

I also find it suspicious that you are willing to call Ellie's bluff when you aren't willing to call Viking fan's and VF is the likely liar.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Once someone has unequivocally claimed, you pretend like they are what they are in hopes that the NKs will clear things up. The way you're trying to throw some shade on viking's claim is very anti-town.

[Albert B. Rampage]

You pretend to believe that they are what they say they are*

[MathBlade]

Oh and you aren't throwing shade on Ellie? She has been claiming all thread.

What I am doing is protown in not letting a suspected liar control the thread. So no vikingfan won't fill the thread with mechanic talk of who should he check. Instead we scumhunt and lynch NJ.

[MathBlade]

And in this case when it is so obvious they are the most anti town cop on the planet you call them on their shit. Make them play protown or be lynched for the scum they likely are. Claiming cop is not a free pass ever.

[Albert B. Rampage]

I've pretended to be a mason with unwitting townies who believed I was town and went along with it and it had disastrous consequences for the town. Better nip this in the bud.

[Albert B. Rampage]

And in this case when it is so obvious they are the most anti town cop on the planet you call them on their shit. Make them play protown or be lynched for the scum they likely are. Claiming cop is not a free pass ever.

I do not respect your opinion because it isn't backed by a vote.

You can do one of two things:

-pretend you believe a claim
-try to get them lynched anyway

You can't throw suspicion on them while getting someone else lynched, because then if they survive it's due to the WIFOM that you yourself created.

[Albert B. Rampage]

In the mason scenario, it's not like I outted anything, SHE SAID THAT SHE WOULD RATHER DIE THAN SEE ELUSIVE LYNCHED. Any scum worth their salt would immediately pick up on that as masons. I can point to a couple games where I caught masons n1 because of less obvious lines than that.

So if they really are masons, then scum already know it anyway, but town doesn't know it. It doesn't hurt to just go out and say it at that point.

[SilverWolf]

I've pretended to be a mason with unwitting townies who believed I was town and went along with it and it had disastrous consequences for the town. Better nip this in the bud.

This happened in a large normal that Wake modded. Scum claimed masons with a townie who went along with it thinking they were town. It is a thing that can happen.

[Albert B. Rampage]

But TBH I suspect lovers more than masons.

[MathBlade]

You've claimed everything under the sun and lied about it a lot. Hence I don't trust you but you lie as both alignments. I think it is best to nip a cop claim in the butt. Masons will work themselves out with the NK. If anything a mason is who you leave alone because they are conf town to each other. If they don't die in the next two/three nights it is auto lynch them and then townfirm the least active. Masons are literally harmless check. Fake cop claims can derail a town.

I know. I have done it and I know what fake cop bullshit looks like.

EBWOP: I am not voting vikingfan because it would result in a no lynch. The only reason. If there were more time I would be demanding vikingfan's lynch.

[MathBlade]

I've pretended to be a mason with unwitting townies who believed I was town and went along with it and it had disastrous consequences for the town. Better nip this in the bud.

This happened in a large normal that Wake modded. Scum claimed masons with a townie who went along with it thinking they were town. It is a thing that can happen.

If elusive is who I think they are I buy they are town masons/lovers.

[elusive]

Ellie, do I know you from elsewhere or else when?

Mathblade, those are not my roles.

[Ellie]

We're not masons. Elusive, you are too clever for your own good.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Are you lovers?

[elusive]

Mysterious mysteriousness.

[Albert B. Rampage]

You being coy with me?

[Ellie]

At least ABR's head is in the game now