SMITE Role Madness Mafia (OVER AT LAST!)

vezokpiraka · Post Post #4350 (ISO) » Tue Feb 17, 2015 5:18 pm

I feel the same as magua. Beast and mostly everyone could hardpy fake the conviction beast had that he will prove to us he is town.

vote ft

Ankamius · Post Post #4351 (ISO) » Tue Feb 17, 2015 5:33 pm

In post 4197, ooba wrote:
In post 4193, Ankamius wrote:Beastcharizard is going the same way as he did in touhou. I don't like it.

Link please?

Yoink

He was active for about three posts and then basically lurked for the whole game until he was mislynched lategame, but he slowly started getting people onto his ass for it as time went on. The primary reason it took so long to get to him was the sheer amount of distractions in the midgame.

ooba · Post Post #4352 (ISO) » Tue Feb 17, 2015 5:37 pm

In post 4346, Magua wrote:It's not that you don't have content. It's that you don't have a lot of content, and then you do have posts interspersed that are content-lite to content-free (3189, 3451, 3737, 3786, 3789, 3794, 3800, 3881, 4110, etc I stopped there).

For those lazy to click:
3189 - The vote count he mentions

3786, 3789 - Discussion with Imperium on TD brambles
3800 - Setup Spec

3451 - Asking people to stop discussing whether AP would have played SK to the tune of town and move on to the D2 lynch discussions
3737 - Asking MS to answer the case
3794 - Highlighting how Imperium's push on TD made me think they are town
3881 - Pushing SW on the fact that they stopped questioning MS without getting an answer
4110 - Heartless move to Skybird was surprising. So asking for reasons.

Neither 'TiphaineDeath and the brambles, or about Metal Sonic being a racist, etc, that are completely

IIoA

useless.' -> I've highlighting a post where I state how the setup spec in these two cases isn't useless.

ISO · Post Post #4353 (ISO) » Tue Feb 17, 2015 5:38 pm

Beast could hardly fake his conviction, but FT could fake his genuine scumhunting and the zillion town motivated things he's done?

Faking beast's iso would be a fuckload easier.

Metal Sonic · Post Post #4354 (ISO) » Tue Feb 17, 2015 5:58 pm

In post 4351, Ankamius wrote:
In post 4197, ooba wrote:
In post 4193, Ankamius wrote:Beastcharizard is going the same way as he did in touhou. I don't like it.

Link please?

Yoink

He was active for about three posts and then basically lurked for the whole game until he was mislynched lategame, but he slowly started getting people onto his ass for it as time went on. The primary reason it took so long to get to him was the sheer amount of distractions in the midgame.

I don't remember beast being scum

Ankamius · Post Post #4355 (ISO) » Tue Feb 17, 2015 6:01 pm

That's the point.

Metal Sonic · Post Post #4356 (ISO) » Tue Feb 17, 2015 6:09 pm

Oh you mean his play here is as bad there

Metal Sonic · Post Post #4357 (ISO) » Tue Feb 17, 2015 6:09 pm

Same could be said for TD

Magua · Post Post #4358 (ISO) » Tue Feb 17, 2015 6:22 pm

For Tammy specifically:

UNVOTE: TSO
VOTE: Imperium
UNVOTE: Imperium

VOTE: ImperiumUNVOTE: Imperium

....
VOTE: FourTrouble

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@Cephrir:

I feel, paradoxically, that it would be better if oobas were just not posting rather than posting fluff, since I read the fluff as trying to give the illusion of activity. It is the exact same problem I have with TSO's posts.

---

May read FourTrouble's ISO later. May not. Oooh, suspense, etc.

TheWayItEnds · Post Post #4359 (ISO) » Tue Feb 17, 2015 6:23 pm

In post 4358, Magua wrote:It is the exact same problem I have with TSO's posts.

You read mine as straight fluff though right?

Magua · Post Post #4360 (ISO) » Tue Feb 17, 2015 6:25 pm

I read you as having more content than TSO, hence him being scummier than you.

Magua · Post Post #4361 (ISO) » Tue Feb 17, 2015 6:28 pm

Or, to put it another way: You have a lot of fluff. BUt yours feels more organic, or in the flow, whereas I feel from ooba and TSO that they're posting things just to say that they've posted things.

You also have the claimed-ness of the vote thief even though it wouldn't otherwise be public knowledge going for you.

ooba · Post Post #4362 (ISO) » Tue Feb 17, 2015 6:37 pm

In post 4358, Magua wrote:@Cephrir: I feel, paradoxically, that it would be better if oobas were just not posting rather than posting fluff, since I read the fluff as trying to give the illusion of activity.

My posting is not fluff.

Be selective in reading and what you respond to. I'm done with you.

ISO · Post Post #4363 (ISO) » Tue Feb 17, 2015 6:38 pm

I've just remembered a recent development that probably makes ooba pretty town. His posts have also been improving lately now that I think about it. I think you're barking up the wrong tree.

ISO · Post Post #4364 (ISO) » Tue Feb 17, 2015 6:38 pm

that was an awkwardly timed interruption.

ooba · Post Post #4365 (ISO) » Tue Feb 17, 2015 7:48 pm

In post 4354, Metal Sonic wrote:
In post 4351, Ankamius wrote:
In post 4197, ooba wrote:
In post 4193, Ankamius wrote:Beastcharizard is going the same way as he did in touhou. I don't like it.

Link please?

Yoink

He was active for about three posts and then basically lurked for the whole game until he was mislynched lategame, but he slowly started getting people onto his ass for it as time went on. The primary reason it took so long to get to him was the sheer amount of distractions in the midgame.

I don't remember beast being scum

I actually read D5 and tried to figure out if beast was some sort of death GF since OP flip has him as town.

So your point is that beast is town in this game and it is the same trajectory as TOUHOU?

ooba · Post Post #4366 (ISO) » Tue Feb 17, 2015 8:02 pm

FT's intial questioning\analysis looks fine but it's the pushes he chooses that I have problems with: Anamikus, Vezok, TD,

Ceph

, beast,

mastin

The two bolded are fine I guess. I also find a lot of confidence behind the town reads - me, farside - but that's a minor point. Might be barking

@People with experience with mastin scum - does he have a history of asking team mates to claim fake stuff the following day? (Like asking TD to claim RB on him to make TD sound more town. mastin-scum would probably know people won't lynch him on the basis of that claim)

ooba · Post Post #4367 (ISO) » Tue Feb 17, 2015 8:02 pm

*^addn: Might be barking up the wrong tree. Not sure.

Ankamius · Post Post #4368 (ISO) » Tue Feb 17, 2015 8:14 pm

I'm seeing a similar type of thing happen in this game, which makes me think he's more likely to be town here.

mastin2 · Post Post #4369 (ISO) » Tue Feb 17, 2015 10:54 pm

In post 4259, farside22 wrote:Mastin: your scum reads please.

*cough*

In post 4032, mastin2 wrote:
In post 4015, mastin2 wrote:ZZZX
Xombie
Metal Sonic <--If not town, then third party playing the part of town. Soooooooooooooooo, no touchie.

Bitmap <--Still think play was protown and role was town.
FourTrouble
Solar Wind
Cephrir
The Mask
Magua

Heartless <--Knocked down a few pegs because Anti just proved how dangerous he can be as scum. (His scumplay is no longer the same, AND he no longer has the debilitating lurking weakness. Meaning that my ability to read him is...far less reliable than before.)
beastcharizard <--General feeling that this is not beast playing as scum, combined with the feeling that the wagon on him wasn't towndriven.
vezokpiraka

farside22

TSO
TiphaineDeath
Imperium

TheWayItEnds <--Simply hasn't left a memorable impression yet, combined with predecessors' scumminess.
ooba
Ankamius
theaceofspade
RachMarie
Skybird
Updated with some minor adjustments to the order. theace, notably, moves WAY down. TWIE is slightly up, but mainly by virtue of the others moving a bit down.

I mean, I haven't bothered to update the list and if I did then I might rearrange the names somewhat, but there's no big huge lifechanging changes in it.

mastin2 · Post Post #4370 (ISO) » Tue Feb 17, 2015 10:58 pm

In post 4285, Imperium wrote:Mastin - iirc you pride yourself on being able to read cephrir. What's your read there?

He's not truly the player in this game I pride myself for being able to read. (That'd be AP.)
He's more on, like, Nacho levels I'd say overall. (Or ETL levels for that matter.) I get it right more often than not, especially if given time, but it's not something that comes 100% of the time. That being said, the read is hovering at town right now, and it's not just on claim, but the claim certainly contributes. I simply don't think he's scum, but the read's not 100%, not even close.

mastin2 · Post Post #4371 (ISO) » Tue Feb 17, 2015 11:04 pm

In post 4286, Heartless wrote:I would appreciate it if you or Nacho gave your 100% bullshit-free read on Solar Wind.

My read on Solar Wind is that I don't bother to get a read on Solar Wind. I just townread them and let the scum eventually take care of ffery.

I simply hold no interest in going down paranoia lane and dealing with thoughts that they're scum. I don't think they are, not off of their content, so it's a townread legitimately I suppose but my townread is like AJT% when you're asking me to express it in terms of 0-100%; it's an entirely different language.

mastin2 · Post Post #4372 (ISO) » Tue Feb 17, 2015 11:07 pm

In post 4297, dramonic wrote:BeastCharizard (2): Imperium, Skybird
FourTrouble (0):
TiphaineDeath(0):

I'm slightly against the beast lynch.
I'm

heavily

against the FourTrouble lynch.

Sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo......

VOTE: TiphaineDeath.

mastin2 · Post Post #4373 (ISO) » Tue Feb 17, 2015 11:10 pm

In post 4325, Metal Sonic wrote:If beast is scum wouldn't there be more resistance

To be fair...he has me as a defender.
Albeit admittedly a weak one.

mastin2 · Post Post #4374 (ISO) » Tue Feb 17, 2015 11:18 pm

In post 4366, ooba wrote:FT's intial questioning\analysis looks fine but it's the pushes he chooses that I have problems with: Anamikus, Vezok, TD,
Ceph
, beast,
mastin

The two bolded are fine I guess.

Funny, 'cause the bolded are the only two that

are

problematic as far as I'm concerned.

@People with experience with mastin scum - does she have a history of asking team mates to claim fake stuff the following day? (Like asking TD to claim RB on her to make TD sound more town. mastin-scum would probably know people won't lynch her on the basis of that claim)

On the contrary, I specifically advocate truthclaiming as much as possible...ESPECIALLY in role madness. I might lie if circumstances demand a lie of me, but it'll be a little white lie, not a flat-faced bold lie.