SMITE Role Madness Mafia (OVER AT LAST!)

[Metal Sonic]

If beast is scum wouldn't there be more resistance

Or is he another PV bomb

[Metal Sonic]

That super sonic disarmed, mind you

bitmap for love and glory bring me into the portal ty

[Cephrir]

Eh, sometimes someone is just scum.

Sure he might not be. But people get too easily spooked by consensus.

[Heartless]

If beast is scum wouldn't there be more resistance

Or is he another PV bomb

I hate you.

[Imperium]

Alright, then.

Could you please outline their reads on: mastin, Cephrir, FourTrouble?

I didn't ask for your read, I asked for theirs.

If everything you're telling me right now is true, I should be able to track all these reads pretty easily.

That was their read, they can correct me if I'm wrong.
if you can't track that in thread, well Tammy can maybe help you but there's no way in hell I'm going through and picking out things from ISO on mobile unless you have a fucking fantastic reason for me to do so

You don't want this do you?

[Imperium]

I mean to heartless. Was Nacho's reasoning good enough?

[Skybird]

I'm thinking beast, td and FourTrouble.

Re-evlauated. I'd put Rach in the town pile. Vezo is town.

I would have said TD is town but he's not done anything D2. The above {beast, TD, FT} looks like a good team. If two of those three flip scum, you can add SW to the scum pile.

Ooba, why is Rach town?

[farside22]

Heartless I asked you a question.

[Heartless]

Why?

So we could've deliberated a little more on the choices. I'm not trilled with any of them.

[Heartless]

Alright, then.

Could you please outline their reads on: mastin, Cephrir, FourTrouble?

I didn't ask for your read, I asked for theirs.

If everything you're telling me right now is true, I should be able to track all these reads pretty easily.

That was their read, they can correct me if I'm wrong.
if you can't track that in thread, well Tammy can maybe help you but there's no way in hell I'm going through and picking out things from ISO on mobile unless you have a fucking fantastic reason for me to do so

You don't want this do you?

I mean to heartless. Was Nacho's reasoning good enough?

Not yet. I'm letting it sink in.

[farside22]

Why?

So we could've deliberated a little more on the choices. I'm not trilled with any of them.

I liked Ooba's thought as I could see the link myself if four is scum.

[Heartless]

@_@
I'm sorry?

Could you please link me to what you're talking about? I'm looking in ooba's ISO, but I don't think I'm looking in the right place.

[Imperium]

Alright, then.

Could you please outline their reads on: mastin, Cephrir, FourTrouble?

I didn't ask for your read, I asked for theirs.

If everything you're telling me right now is true, I should be able to track all these reads pretty easily.

That was their read, they can correct me if I'm wrong.
if you can't track that in thread, well Tammy can maybe help you but there's no way in hell I'm going through and picking out things from ISO on mobile unless you have a fucking fantastic reason for me to do so

You don't want this do you?

I mean to heartless. Was Nacho's reasoning good enough?

Not yet. I'm letting it sink in.

Well there's a bit of this game that I haven't read/skimmed over and have no desire to go rooting through it again to find stuff. Both of them have reads lists on page two of their iso in which they explain the FourTrouble read.

I'm not sure if there's analysis on Ceph in the game thread, but they have talked about their read on Mastin when discussing things with FourTrouble sometime last week I think? There might be more, but it's somewhere in between their vote on me and their unvote.

[Metal Sonic]

Eh, sometimes someone is just scum.

Sure he might not be. But people get too easily spooked by consensus.

I am one of them HAHAHA

[Metal Sonic]

Spooked by consensus. Not scum.

[theaceofspades]

i lied. I feel okay now

VOTE: beast

[Heartless]

Spooked by consensus. Not scum.

It's not even a consensus, are you kidding me?!

[Ankamius]

Ok then.

I'm not voting FourTrouble. I'll have to get reads on the other two since neither of them have been on my radar.

[Solar Wind]

@ Farside, I don't understand this. You went on and on about Rach and now you chose three other people besides Rach into the lynchpool. You say Rach's activity across the site checks out. But that only means that Rach is telling the truth about her RL situation regardless of her alignment here. Why does this necessarily make her town? Why couldn't you wait to see if you get a read on her replacement before you decide who to put on the table for a lynch?

Can you outline your reasons for the three people that you chose?

[ooba]

I'm going to throw this out there.

Farside scum, especially Farside-scum-with-Rach-scum, wouldn't have kept Rach out of the three choices. That brings about too much heat. This makes me feel much better about Farside.

@Skybird: It has to do with two things spotted in the neighbourhood.

@MS: Yes. Or Dueler. My bad on the misnaming.

[Solar Wind]

Well, the motive would be to keep town-Rach alive so she can keep tunneling her slot. But this is weak and I can't see much scum motive for her action.

I'm much, much more interested in learning whether they fit with a town-Farside thought process.

[Magua]

As much as it pains me to admit it, I agree with Imperium's 4249 about theaceofspades claiming to activate a double-vote but not having to declare it in thread(2608, 2842) not coming from a scum mindset, which would want to hold onto that power and keep it secret.

Similar thoughts go to TheWayItEnds' vote thief role.

(I had a scum vote thief like that in my Paranoia game, and as expected they used their power but never claimed it to distract town.)

(It *is* possible that someone, coughcoughImperiumcough, coached him into doing it that way for just this reason, but I'm willing to table that thought until after Imperium has flipped scum.)

The one unanswered item about the irregularities on AngryPidgeon's lynch is what Mask's repulse does:

Nvm bit disappointed AP is leading but w/e tf, you guys are cocks so you hate pidgeons

repulse: angry pidgeon

On initial reading, I had assumed that this made AngryPidgeon hated and was what was responsible for the lynch at L-1.

Now I'm just curious about what it did and why Mask did it.

PEdit: I see Skybird addresses this in 4270, but I'm too lazy to delete what I wrote.

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This is not even close to the truth. 5 out of 70 is not half.

Imperium thought TD lied about targeting mastin and I helped them figure out alternatives.

For fuck's sake.

Never read (most? any?) of your D1 posts, not really going to. Do know that there's several posts of yours that are entirely setup spec about TiphaineDeath and the brambles, or about Metal Sonic being a racist, etc, that are completely IIoA useless.

It's not that you don't have content. It's that you don't have a lot of content, and then you do have posts interspersed that are content-lite to content-free (3189, 3451, 3737, 3786, 3789, 3794, 3800, 3881, 4110, etc I stopped there).

Especially the vote count one in 3189 throws me off, because that's the exact sort of thing I did as scum in War in Heaven III because it looked like work without actually taking any stances. Ditto for setup spec, which-god-is-Metal-Sonic, who-has-brambles etc.

I mean, I get it, I like setup spec

as much

more than the next guy, but so many of your posts seem to be words without stances, and it makes bells go off in my head.

magua explain your goddamn scumread

You're around, and you post, but the amount of content in your posts is even less than ooba's. Your last vote was on Metal Sonic, you haven't given any other indications of who you think is scummy since the PeregrineV kill, in fact haven't reacted to the kill at all other than "mastin's reaction is off"...so it's pretty much active lurking. You're here, but you ain't doing jack.

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Of farside's three:

TiphaineDeath is town. I think he's town for the unprompted roleblock claim on mastin.

beastcharizard is probably town, less so than TiphaineDeath. He's got stuff in the neighborhood about his ability/abilities are going to prove him town once we all see it that, well, factually, aren't true, but the emotion and the conviction he had D1 with them reads to me as difficult to pull off for scum. Tht is, I do not read beast as being that good of a scum player.

FourTrouble is a lynch that, as said, I'm perfectly fine with, even if it means voting along with ooba.

UNVOTE: Imperium (because I like to emphasize)
VOTE: FourTrouble

I await people telling me I'm

stupid

misguided for voting FourTrouble.

[Cephrir]

It's not that you don't have content. It's that you don't have a lot of content, and then you do have posts interspersed that are content-lite to content-free (3189, 3451, 3737, 3786, 3789, 3794, 3800, 3881, 4110, etc I stopped there).

Especially the vote count one in 3189 throws me off, because that's the exact sort of thing I did as scum in War in Heaven III because it looked like work without actually taking any stances. Ditto for setup spec, which-god-is-Metal-Sonic, who-has-brambles etc.

So it'd be okay if he made the exact same posts, then didn't add setup spec? Baffling.

Also, when it comes to FT, you really, truly do need to read his day 1 posts. If there is one player whose day 1 posts you should read it's him.

[Imperium]

It's actually kind of amusing when someone is soooooooooo convinced I'm scum, they say "when I flip scum" when I really couldn't be more town. It has, however, given nacho trolling ammunition because the scum read is based on me. So that's also fun :/

I am kinda surprised he's not taking his strong town read's solar winds strong town read of me.

I'm townreading magua for the most part, but I don't remember him being so sticky on reads and not asking questions and digging to clarify his reads.

Yiu unvoted us last night though!

[Solar Wind]

Magua, you are misguided for voting FourTrouble (I hope).