New York 180 (Endgame)

[elusive]

There's a massive difference in his posting from before where he was like a lost lamb and since a few posts ago where he actually makes sense and seems to be playing mafia. Why is it disgusting?

[Shinobi]

Because you're leaving your conclusion open ended. You allude to there being an encryptor but you leave the details of said read up to anyone who reads your post.

Are you an alt or no?

[elusive]

No, I'm not an alt. Although, I'm curious to who you think I would be an alt of. I'm not sure what the "encryptor" part means but if there was anything bad about that it was wondering if he would make another scum slip which you kind of defused from happening. What is your take on the vikingfan vs. dragonspawn wagons?

[Shinobi]

Meh, nevermind then. I always see mafia posting stuff that alludes to other people being scum without outright stating their conclusions.

I don't care about either of the wagons. In a pinch I'd vote VF over DS but that's about it.

[Shinobi]

How would you draw the conclusion that he was being coached without knowing about encryptors?

[dragonspawn]

vikingfan, it's interesting to see you posting like a real player now, are you being coached or?

Since it may turn out that you are the lynch for toDay, who do you think town should look at closely if you flip town? Can you do a last reads or will post?

Wake88, vikingfan wrote in a post that he found it interesting that the response to his V\LA was for players to buss him while the response to Grib's V\LA did not result in bussing. That read like a massive scum slip to most, I think. I'm more interested in what people think should happen once he flips either town or scum. If he flips scum do they look at those who were voting him at the time of the post? Does that mean Grib needs to be looked at? Etc.

Aeronaut, you can start now.

The bolded is disgusting. Scumpoints for you.

why is it disgusting?

[dragonspawn]

How would you draw the conclusion that he was being coached without knowing about encryptors?

maybe I'm still new ay this but what do encryptors have to do with this?

[elusive]

Because if he's scum he has a scum chat? That is where the coaching would happen? What are enycryptors or link?

On the one hand if we take his alleged scum slip as real then that means life is a bit easier for us because that means at the time he made that post, there was at least one scum buddy on his wagon. That also means that Grib is most likely scum.

However, I have yet to play a game where the player lynched day one was scum so I'm a bit wary and cautious of it.

[Shinobi]

How would you draw the conclusion that he was being coached without knowing about encryptors?

maybe I'm still new ay this but what do encryptors have to do with this?

Encryptors are the only scum role on mafiascum that give scum daytalk. They don't have daytalk otherwise.

[elusive]

Well that's different from other sites where it depends on the game. Is that true of all mafiscum games or just certain ones?

[elusive]

So if that is true then he can't receive coaching until night anyway and there is no pre-game start coaching or talk?

[Albert B. Rampage]

Just lynch Boon.

[SilverWolf]

An Encryptor is a role that allows people who can converse with it to talk during the Day phase. Otherwise, they are restricted to speaking during the Night phase.

While theoretically this role can be used for Masons and the like, in practice this role is usually Mafia-aligned and allows the Mafia to daytalk. This role is considered Normal when given to the mafia.

elusive-most games I have played, scum can talk pregame during confirmations and night phases, if they have daytalk, it'll be specified by the mod usually

if it isn't specified, it would be done with an encryptor if it is present at all

It is heavily dependent on game mechanics.

[dragonspawn]

How would you draw the conclusion that he was being coached without knowing about encryptors?

maybe I'm still new ay this but what do encryptors have to do with this?

Encryptors are the only scum role on mafiascum that give scum daytalk. They don't have daytalk otherwise.

I've played a game with day talk and no encryptor. Course it was offsite.

alot of assumptions if we are even assuming their is daytalk though.

[elusive]

Just lynch Boon.

Isn't a vikingfan lynch more informative? If he does flip scum then there's a lead to follow? If he flips town it gives different set of information?

[Aeronaut]

Just lynch Boon.

Isn't a vikingfan lynch more informative? If he does flip scum then there's a lead to follow? If he flips town it gives different set of information?

Why are you pushing for a lynch but not voting for them?

[dragonspawn]

Just lynch Boon.

I don't know if I've ever seen your scum game, but this behavior does seem consistent with your town game. Going to lean town On abr right now. Even if you I don't agree with your choice at the moment.

[House]

Prodgey.

Get your butt in here and give us something to work with, duders.

[House]

How can town not see all the resistance to the vikingfan wagon?

[elusive]

Just lynch Boon.

Isn't a vikingfan lynch more informative? If he does flip scum then there's a lead to follow? If he flips town it gives different set of information?

Why are you pushing for a lynch but not voting for them?

I know what he thinks about dragonspawn, but I want to know what he thinks of vikingfan. Why should I vote for a wagon when there are about 6 days left? People should weigh in on it before the flip and not everyone has.

[House]

elusive seems town to me, her ignorance of encryptors and scum day talk mechanics feels genuine.

If she was scum, I don't see her bringing this up so baldly.

[elusive]

SilverWolf, I have some setup questions. With 21 players what is the ratio of town to scum? Or I guess the average ratio for large games?

[SilverWolf]

SilverWolf, I have some setup questions. With 21 players what is the ratio of town to scum? Or I guess the average ratio for large games?

Check out this game. It's a 21 player closed normal. It should give you a rough idea. I'm not saying this game is the same as that one. It probably isn't. But it might help you with ratio's.

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=55&t=58830

Also, you are reading newbtown to me.

[vikingfan]

lol at the encryptor talk. I did note earlier that I would be around a lot more this weekend to post and investigate and I've followed up on that. this game tends to explode while I'm asleep and at work so I obv don't post as much. I'm looking forward to later days when the smaller size will work much better to keep up with. hopefully the game stays at manageable levels of posting for the rest of today, however, how long that lasts. which reminds me, mod, are you open to moving the deadline? The OP says that you are. if not, I'm thinking I should claim soon...

[vikingfan]

or actually it looks like there are 6 days left so talk of claiming can wait another couple of days.