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Post Post #4125 (ISO) » Sun Feb 15, 2015 6:42 pm

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AP wasn't groupscum but there are ways in which his play differed from his towngame. First off was his entrance. The way he interacted with me/Imperium sorting each other felt like an artifact from a previous scumgame of his. Secondly, it was how some of his suspicions didn't wholly make sense. His OMGUS of Ace was survivalistic. It fits with how he plays as mafia but not as town. In this game, it was because he was third party. Thirdly, his fade-out when his lynch seemed like a real possibility. As both town and mafia, he has a lot more fire and puts effort into avoiding the lynch to at least not let his team down while as third party he had no such obligations.

Compare this with a hypothetical third party Metal Sonic:

a) I think he would be more likely to kill a threat to him rather than a generally agreed upon lurker? What if PV was town? It doesn't help him in any way. But let's say he made up his own readslist and decided you guys are at the bottom and shoots you. Then what? Some people might call him a retard. The day will move on.

b) He spends quite a bit of effort interacting with the thread and engaging himself with the game even after he killed a scum. Why not coast on killing scum? Sonic loves coasting as scum. Have you read Final Fantasy 10?

Overall, I don't feel that calling him third party is hugely productive even as I'm proud of AP's scumlynch.

Why is Skybird scum beyond calling us town?
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Post Post #4126 (ISO) » Sun Feb 15, 2015 6:44 pm

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for a lot of the same reasons you did

the catch up walls were throwing shade at easy targets (xombie most notably) and generally being snipey-snipey shit-shit.
also stuff in the hood. he was excited to see me replace in, but then once tth and i started posting catch up stuff, he dropped off the face of the earth.

tth told me why she was townreading him, but it kind of went in one ear and out the other and my eyes glazed over...

...shit, i have been really bad about that recently...

that's gonna' bite me in the ass
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Post Post #4127 (ISO) » Sun Feb 15, 2015 6:44 pm

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^^^^^^
that was re: ceph, btw
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Post Post #4128 (ISO) » Sun Feb 15, 2015 6:48 pm

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In post 4125, Solar Wind wrote:I think he would be more likely to kill a threat to him rather than a generally agreed upon lurker?

yeah, i know, what POSSIBLE motivation would racist-sonic have to look like a town day vig while killing OUTSIDE HIS NEIGHBORHOOD?

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Post Post #4129 (ISO) » Sun Feb 15, 2015 6:49 pm

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You are going to have to get used to me being "snipey."

That's kinda how I am.
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Post Post #4130 (ISO) » Sun Feb 15, 2015 6:50 pm

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In post 4129, Here There Be Dragons wrote:You are going to have to get used to me being "snipey."

That's kinda how I am.

This is probably the first of many.
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Post Post #4131 (ISO) » Sun Feb 15, 2015 6:51 pm

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This game is really dense and kinda losing my interest a bit right now. I will probably get re-energized when the game stops feeling like slogging through liquid asphalt.
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Post Post #4132 (ISO) » Sun Feb 15, 2015 6:51 pm

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It is possible. I don't think it is optimal for a serial killer to fake-claim vig because:

a) He'd be accountable for his targets.
b) If the mafia all get lynched and the game isn't over, it is kinda obvious where town will look.

As an aside, I'm wondering if there could be multiple third parties but not all of them racists.
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Post Post #4133 (ISO) » Sun Feb 15, 2015 6:52 pm

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In what way is the game "dense?" I normally think of dense when there is a high content to post ratio and too much content in each post. I find the game rather light.
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Post Post #4134 (ISO) » Sun Feb 15, 2015 7:46 pm

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Nothing is /happening/.
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Post Post #4135 (ISO) » Sun Feb 15, 2015 10:09 pm

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Because it is difficult to find scum despite us doing a great marvelous job so far
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Post Post #4136 (ISO) » Sun Feb 15, 2015 10:30 pm

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I got the impression it was because it was role madness.
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Post Post #4137 (ISO) » Sun Feb 15, 2015 11:12 pm

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Some wagon thoughts:

TheAceofspades (3): Xombie, Ooba, vezokpiraka
Skybird (3): Mastin2, Cephrir, Heartless
RachMarie (2): Bitmap, Farside22

- I like the ace wagon because all the people on it right now are town
- Cephrir's position on the Skybird wagon and Bitmap's presence on the Rach wagon does not inspire confidence


Looking at Pere, he votes ace for being the biggest wagon. But when he hops off, it is still the biggest wagon.

In post 1591, PeregrineV wrote:Tired so going to bed now, but biggest wagon + less posts than me=

Vote: AceofSpades

In post 2069, PeregrineV wrote:
Vote: RachMarie


Counterwagon ho!!


Also, ace's gameplay is akin to survialist scum who just wants to survive. He lurked out his wagon and mysteriously appeared near deadline.

In post 2734, ooba wrote:
In post 2730, theaceofspades wrote:idk what to do

I thought you had it down pat. Lurk when there's a wagon on you and suddenly appear when it died down.

Also, I think town might have responded to this post instead of letting it go in a lot of cases - 'You're wrong', 'Fuck you'. Same behaviour shows up when voted early D2 - 'great cases' response appears to come from a scum mindset than a town one.

ace is scum and should be lynched today.

Associative tells:
- mastin who creates an entire post about wagons - mentions how theace wagon could be scum on scum, and keeps mentioning ace multiple times - but actually votes Skybird.
- Also, ace's entire mastin case and push reads like a newbie bus.

Anyway, not sure of the pairing that much - but ace needs to be the one to go.
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Post Post #4138 (ISO) » Sun Feb 15, 2015 11:18 pm

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In post 4096, Ankamius wrote:What games have you played with me as town?
I've seen you here and there.
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Post Post #4139 (ISO) » Sun Feb 15, 2015 11:22 pm

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In post 4117, Heartless wrote:i spent the better part of day 2 thinking beast was the sk until mastin p much claimed it in the thread :lol:
If there is one thing I am not, it is subtle.

Which is why I'm so exasperated this game about how much ranting and raving I have to do in order to get you trusting me. :P
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Post Post #4140 (ISO) » Sun Feb 15, 2015 11:59 pm

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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA such garbage

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Post Post #4141 (ISO) » Mon Feb 16, 2015 12:11 am

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What would be garbage is your own skill at reading people in the game if that shot hits.
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Post Post #4142 (ISO) » Mon Feb 16, 2015 12:16 am

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I just gone full retard and reformatted my com because of a dumb black screen problem and I forgot to backup fuck that
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Post Post #4143 (ISO) » Mon Feb 16, 2015 12:16 am

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For some reason the computer still kept my index wallpaper
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Post Post #4144 (ISO) » Mon Feb 16, 2015 12:19 am

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Honestly neither the farside nor the ooba shots are bad.
If farside and/or ooba are town, they're definitely assets and their loss would be bad, but both are not exactly shining the obvtown light everywhere. Either flip would potentially give more info, helping to clear things up a little more.
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Post Post #4145 (ISO) » Mon Feb 16, 2015 12:29 am

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Normally I don't really care since my computer is really empty and lots of my good stuff are stored on the cloud,


But I have 10 hours worth of koiken otome stored on the computer it is lost!!! Omg is there save files online I want to skip those
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Post Post #4146 (ISO) » Mon Feb 16, 2015 1:22 am

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In post 4144, mastin2 wrote:Honestly neither the farside nor the ooba shots are bad.
If farside and/or ooba are town, they're definitely assets and their loss would be bad, but both are not exactly shining the obvtown light everywhere. Either flip would potentially give more info, helping to clear things up a little more.

You suspect ace - an ace flip would give far *more* info especially because of his wagon on D1.

Let the good players who know me from previous games read me - my town and scum games are so distinctively apart that its funny. Scum me doesn't care which townsperson gets lynched.
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Post Post #4147 (ISO) » Mon Feb 16, 2015 1:42 am

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I think mastin's weird nonchalance to the shots is off.
"i have the sickest grossest feeling that even if it's my lynch today, my townflip still won't lead to a tso lynch, and then he'll find some bullshit way to reason either shooting or lynching gm tomorrow because if there's anyone who can strongarm a mislynch despite his reads or cases being proved wrong time and again it's tso"
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Post Post #4148 (ISO) » Mon Feb 16, 2015 1:43 am

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Like, ooba's just made a case on MS, you never really address that, MS then apparently shoots ooba while also not addressing it despite ooba not really being a common scumread, and your reaction is "oh, cool."

???
"i have the sickest grossest feeling that even if it's my lynch today, my townflip still won't lead to a tso lynch, and then he'll find some bullshit way to reason either shooting or lynching gm tomorrow because if there's anyone who can strongarm a mislynch despite his reads or cases being proved wrong time and again it's tso"
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Post Post #4149 (ISO) » Mon Feb 16, 2015 1:44 am

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In post 4141, ooba wrote:What would be garbage is your own skill at reading people in the game if that shot hits.


im a 3rd party racist i dont care who dies :cool:
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