Open 30 - Fire and Ice (Game Over!) - before 470

[Glork]

You didn't answer my question. And I'm not presenting a false dilemma. If characteristic X implies quality A or B and you have exhibited characteristic X, then you must be A and/or B. I would simply like to know which one(s) you possess.

[AutumnEvenings]

Sorry for not being very active lately--it'll improve.

Anyway. Not quite sure what to make of the XYZ lynch growing so fast. The thing is, even if he

is

scum, only one other person knows it. So I'm hesitant to clear him on that. But on the other hand, there's another scum group (assuming he's scum) out there with no more knowledge than the rest of us.

I don't see Mert's question as a trap--I think it's valid. There probably

is

scum on his wagon, regardless of his allignment. (I'd think, anyway. For the record, this is my first game ever with two scum groups, so I'm just kind of making assumptions that make sense to me, like that each scum group wants everyone not in their scum group dead, regardless of the other people's allignment.) I'd think Glork and PBug look the most suspicious. It's early yet but...eh.

Stewie, care to elaborate?

Also, I disagree with Glork...L-1 on page 2 in a game with two factions seems rather careless to me.

unvote: XYZ, vote: PBug

for jumping on the wagon at a suspicious time and not doing anything else at all.

[Sefer]

Fine, it's a false premise AND a false dilemma. Since you've shown no evidance to indicate that aversion to lynch-1 is for chumps and sissies, it's a false premise. Once you've shown that, you'd still have to show that ONLY chumps and sissies are averse to lynch-1 or you have a false dilemma (as one could be a chump, sissy, or any number of other things, such as any townie that doesn't want to go into day two with no discussion, that is averse to lynch-1).

Unvote, vote:Glork

for craplogic.

[AutumnEvenings]

It's crap logic but on a dumb point. Not quite sure why you're making such a big deal of it.

[Sefer]

Hey, the man's not only trying to call me a sissy (or a chump), he's trying to trick me into calling myself a sissy (or a chump). That kind of thing simply will not stand.

[Glork]

There's still no deying that your reaction to my banter was rather over-the-top.

FoS: Sefer

... somebody seems rather jumpy and irritable.

[YogurtBandit]

Official Vote Count #3

xyzzy [4] (CTD,Mert,Glork,Pbug)
AutumnEvenings{AE} [2](Vendagoat,Stewie)
PBuG [2](Wiz,AE)
Crub [1](,Xyzzy)
Mert [1](,MBL)
Vendagoat [1](Crub)
Glork[1](Sefer)

Not Voting[0]()

Not being Voted:
CrashTextDummie{CTD}
MrBuddyLee{MBL}
Sefer
Stewie
Wizardcat

With 12 alive, It will take 7 to Lynch.

Key: {} These represent abbreviations
[] These are How many Votes on the player
() These are who is voting for the player
Players in Red are "Under Fire" and have the most votes.

[Sefer]

There's still no deying that your reaction to my banter was rather over-the-top.

FoS: Sefer

... somebody seems rather jumpy and irritable.

My first response was banter. You're the one that pushed it so I had to explain what was wrong with your logic.

[Stewie]

Stewie, care to elaborate?

Trying to get a reaction; didn't get it.

[CrashTextDummie]

Unvote, Vote: AutumnEvenings

How's that for a reaction?

[xyzzy]

Unvote, vote Sefer

Don't make a big deal out of crap. It's scummy.

Unless you're scum, then continue doing it.

Are you scum?

[Mert]

Glad I'm on the Xyzzy wagon right now, yes indeedy I am.

[Vendagoat]

FoS:XYZ Dear god man, you fly around more than a moth with gas.

[AutumnEvenings]

Hmm. I guess since the vote's on me, I might be a bit biased here, but what's the point of voting for someone (me) when the person who placed the reaction-seeking vote has already kind of said they've given it up?

Anyway, not much else to comment on, especially since PBuG hasn't been back since I voted him.

I'm going to be without internet from the 8th (tomorrow) to the 12th. Appologies in advance.

[Mert]

Hmm. I guess since the vote's on me, I might be a bit biased here, but what's the point of voting for someone (me) when the person who placed the reaction-seeking vote has already kind of said they've given it up?

Because the reaction is still useful, regardless. If someone votes to get information and they don't get it immediately and give up on it, it doesn't suddenly negate the benefits of having that information, it just means the person seeking it has decided to look elsewhere for the time being.

[xyzzy]

...Which of course raises the question of where they get that information.

Are you giving up because you're scum?

[Mert]

Xyzzy, they get the information from asking questions and putting pressure on people for reactions, etc. I don't really understand your post, to be honest. Who is giving up?

[Crub]

unvote

vote xyzzy

Until you start making sense

[MrBuddyLee]

unvote, vote Mert

for that avatar.

[MrBuddyLee]

For god's sake, it's

pulsating

.

confirm vote

[Mert]

So, MBL, I hear you liek pulsating mudkips?

[xyzzy]

Hmm. I guess since the vote's on me, I might be a bit biased here, but what's the point of voting for someone (me) when the person who placed the reaction-seeking vote has already kind of said they've

given it up

?

Anyway, not much else to comment on, especially since PBuG hasn't been back since I voted him.

I'm going to be without internet from the 8th (tomorrow) to the 12th. Appologies in advance.

Emphasis mine. There's no reason to not pursue information. If a reactionary vote is placed and taken off because nothing happened, no new information is gained.

[Crub]

You guys do realise that this day is deadlined for a little under 3 days right?

[Vendagoat]

Ok so far we have two pairs of two going back and forth right now.
Glork and Sefar are both arguing and Xyz and Mert. So now the question is are these the two mafia groups stirring up trouble?

FOS: all four of you. Because so far it's all crap logic started from a bandwagon vote. Problem is, Xyz is still flying around all willy nilly like and that to me is very scummy. Second biggest scum trait is the constant barrage of accusations, thats Glork in my eyes.

I'm a bit hesitant to put another vote on XYZ as it would bring him -2 coupled that we still have a day or two to still talk I am going to hold off till sometime Tuesday to vote.

Till then I am keeping my eyes open. Oh and I guess since I have a random vote out I better cancel that till Tuesday.

UNVOTE

[CrashTextDummie]

Oy Glork, who should we lynch?