New York 180 (Endgame)

[Shinobi]

The TSO wagon seems to be forming far to easily for someone that has not even posted yet. I would think that this is worthy of a prod but I am suspicious that scum is simply jumping onto the easy wagon that has an 'excuse.'

That depends: do you think the people on the wagon are trying to actually lynch him before he starts playing?

[SilverWolf]

Dragon, klingon and aero to a lesser extent.

dragonspawn has played with me many times off-site as well as Klingon and House.

House has played with me many times onsite here as well.

House and Klingon both just got out of a game with me where I was scum and they were town.

Aero and Grib have not played with me off-site but onsite here in a few games.

Wake has played with me a couple times.

Anyhow, here's the game where I was scum and House and Klingon were town.

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=60334

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Are they over at US as well? Who are they? I didn't think there were so many of us over here.

Aero and Grib no. They are players I've met here. You know Wake and House obviously. Klingon and dragonspawn are over there as well yep. Grandma and Avi. Say hi, it's a reunion party!!

[Aeronaut]

Aw you people all know each other, I feel like an outsider :/

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[Shinobi]

Ok. Let's generate discussion

@Everyone: what's the biggest flaw in your towngame? Your scumgame?

Btw, I realized that I overlooked this.

Flaw in my towngame is that I can be really anti-town sometimes. It's not as big an issue in IML but meh.
Flaw in my scumgame is that I'm incredibly unproductive.

[Jared615]

VOTE: TSO

Aeronaut and Silverwolf seem very town to me.

[FakedBlogger]

Biggest flaw in towngames:
People tend to sheep me when I'm meh-, and ignore me when I'm passionate about a scumread. Which means I'm doing something wrong because it should be the other way around.

Biggest flaw in scumgames:
Endgaming is not my forte. I lack stamina because I have to wear an itchy townsuit and my balls start to sweat.

[acryon]

You want ABR to give you a reason to stay on pisskop so you don't have to pretend to scumhunt. Gotcha!

You nailed it.

acryon

and

Silverwolf

, curiosity has me wondering whether or not you feel

elusive

's 48 (line 1) feels genuine.

I think those kind of lines always seem to feel disingenuous to people, and I'm inclined to view it as a null right now.

Trying to discuss the meta in a game this size seems even more terrible than usual, so can someone who is into it explain to me why it isn't?

Ok. Let's generate discussion

@Everyone: what's the biggest flaw in your towngame? Your scumgame?

These kind of questions are good however, because they bring out some real responses from people.

Biggest flaw in towngame: I can be a little too persuasive and lead town into lots of mislynches. I can also overanalyze things and end up coming to the wrong conclusion.
Biggest flaw in scumgame: Only have 2 scum games on here and both went pretty well. The way I play does tend to cause people to want to cop-check me, however.

[House]

I just only draw town, always, all the time, so you should assume as such

VOTE: Aeronaut

This is a blatant Lynch all Liars PL vote and everybody should sheep me.

[Wake1]

One thing I deal with, due to past foolish actions, is Scum trying to bank on me to win them the game.

Since talking with more than some people about how to play better and be kinder, times are a'changing.

Been playing a whole lot nicer and working with others more, and now keep getting invited to play in games.

The real problem is real-life work totally f***** my ability to play this awesome game with those I appreciate and respect.

If I'm in a good mood and have time, I can hit hard with really big, thorough posts. Can be a very sharp smartass at times, if you poke me.

Scum tried hard to manipulate me in Newbie 1565 (Belisarius and Elbirn). Both are awesome players, and I helped turn the tables on them. Still can't get over how sneakily Beli tried to divert my attention.

If I sound really nice, agreeable, active, and reasonable, like I'm really calm and helpful,

watch out

. I've been kind enough to warn people of this earlier and I still win as Scum. I don't recall ever being lynched as Scum on this site, or offline (if I'm wrong lemme know please). My Town-game is weaker, because of all that paranoia stuff goin' on.

[Wake1]

Wake, I miss the cheeky pictures in between your analysis(s)

[SilverWolf]

@mod

Maybe prod TSO?

[dragonspawn]

Oh

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No, it's not necessarily a "crusade" against TSO for not doing a thing; rather, he's a player I'm intending to focus on during this day. I've played with him three times and townread him in every game I played with him. He was mafia in two of those games. I have absolutely no idea how to read him properly so I want to start pressuring him out of the gate to see what he does when the spotlight on him early.

Sure, his not posting while he should be posting bothers me, but that's not why I'm doing what I'm doing. If this is how you intend to handle my TSO pressure, then I'm perfectly okay with that.

I don't have a problem with you pressuring him at all. I have a problem with you telling the rest of us we need to.

I'm not telling you we need to. I'm asking you to help me out because I think this is a good course of action.

At the very least, it's better than talking about vampires.

Because, uh, it looks okay and I can see how you think those things.

Eh

Still more than you've given in regards to that post, ftr.

Vampires can tell you more than you realize

[dragonspawn]

dragonspawn has played with me many times off-site as well as Klingon and House.

House has played with me many times onsite here as well.

House and Klingon both just got out of a game with me where I was scum and they were town.

Aero and Grib have not played with me off-site but onsite here in a few games.

Wake has played with me a couple times.

Anyhow, here's the game where I was scum and House and Klingon were town.

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=60334

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Are they over at US as well? Who are they? I didn't think there were so many of us over here.

Hi, FA, I'm Grandma.

We have found a witch. May we burn her?

Just teasin

[dragonspawn]

Aw you people all know each other, I feel like an outsider :/

I

Don't be we will be at each other's throats before too long.

[Aeronaut]

Biggest flaw in scumgames:
Endgaming is not my forte. I lack stamina because I have to wear an itchy townsuit and my balls start to sweat.

This is the most accurate thing I've ever read.

One thing I deal with, due to past foolish actions, is Scum trying to bank on me to win them the game.

I mean, we could also talk about the Other[/url Game Which Shall Not Be Named, in which I killed more scum as the SK than you did as the Vig...

The real problem is real-life work totally f***** my ability to play this awesome game with those I appreciate and respect.

See, you and I do the same thing, where we join like five games at a time, even though we know we could barely manage one; It's like an addiction.

@mod

Maybe prod TSO?

I think it's very possible T S O forgot this game existed, tbh. It's a very T S O thing to do

[Aeronaut]

Wow that link was not meant to keep going, that's weird.

[Aeronaut]

Wake, if you were to be voting for someone, who would you vote for?

[Kitz]

I think it's very possible T S O forgot this game existed, tbh. It's a very T S O thing to do

When you sign for something, you're not supposed to forget it. It's like signing a promise to have a date with your SO and then you just forget about it.
Oh wait, reality ensues. At this point, is it even worth it to talk about him until he's been prodded? It's like beating a dead horse by now.

[Grib]

The last few pages have been surprisingly fluffy/spammy.

VOTE: FA_Q2

VOTE: FA Q 2

Care to even bother with an explication. Naked votes are... naked.

This is not even proper pressure as there is nothing to react too...

Do me a favor and properly pressure me. I need something to do.

[acryon]

The last few pages have been surprisingly fluffy/spammy.

VOTE: FA_Q2

VOTE: FA Q 2

Care to even bother with an explication. Naked votes are... naked.

This is not even proper pressure as there is nothing to react too...

Do me a favor and properly pressure me. I need something to do.

What do you make of Boon following you on the FA_Q2 vote?

[Grib]

Hi SilverWolf! Your posts are looking especially lovely today.

I voted him to see what would happen. It's a work in progress.

Hi Grib! How are you? Good to play with you again.

I'm totally susceptible to buddying so keep up the good work.

I accept your answer.

<3

Honestly, I'm dreading this game a little. This is my first time playing with so many people. Normally I stick to micros.

[Grib]

The last few pages have been surprisingly fluffy/spammy.

VOTE: FA_Q2

VOTE: FA Q 2

Care to even bother with an explication. Naked votes are... naked.

This is not even proper pressure as there is nothing to react too...

Do me a favor and properly pressure me. I need something to do.

What do you make of Boon following you on the FA_Q2 vote?

I tend to think Boonskiies is scummy in general, so I'll get back to you on that. Gun to head, null.

I think you're town, so that's something. Only, what, 19 more players to get reads on?

[FakedBlogger]

You want ABR to give you a reason to stay on pisskop so you don't have to pretend to scumhunt. Gotcha!

You nailed it.

YYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYEEEEEEEEEEeeeeeEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAWWWWWWWWWWW!!!

[T S O]

I forgot this game existed. My men, I'll forgive you by personally digging the graves for the dead bodies of scum after I lead the charge in hanging them.

Let's get down to business.

[Aeronaut]

I think it's very possible T S O forgot this game existed, tbh. It's a very T S O thing to do

I forgot this game existed.