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Post Post #225 (ISO) » Thu Jul 05, 2007 5:33 am

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JDodge wrote:I care not to tell at the moment.
Why not?
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Post Post #226 (ISO) » Thu Jul 05, 2007 5:35 am

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Indeed!

Now that I'm at -1, with Sir able to flip and vote me as he was yesterday, I think it fair.

And for reals this time, yo! I'm not the Jester by not hammering myself :P
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Post Post #227 (ISO) » Thu Jul 05, 2007 5:43 am

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Sir Tornado wrote:
JDodge wrote:I care not to tell at the moment.
Why not?
Because it will mess up my strategy, of course.

I know you aren't the jester, gorck. Otherwise it would be stupid to be voting you.
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Post Post #228 (ISO) » Thu Jul 05, 2007 5:55 am

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JDodge wrote:I don't want a gorckat lynch. He's either Jester or town.
I only mentioned the Jester bit because it was a minor point yesterday.

Has the above assessment changed? I imagine running me up as town will confirm Lawrence as scum.

Actually seems like a fair bet- if we assume that Lawrence is confirmed by living, run up a likely partner: me (since BM and maybe others think I'm bussing Lawrence, despite my earlier objection to such an idea).

If it gets the town a win, go for it. I was game for being the lamb yesterday, so why not today?
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Post Post #229 (ISO) » Thu Jul 05, 2007 6:05 am

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Yes.
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Post Post #230 (ISO) » Thu Jul 05, 2007 6:41 am

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I'm not convinced that Gorckat is necessarily the play today. As far as i am concerned, he is primarily scummy by association.
On the other hand, he has (at last) proven that he is not the Jester.
I'm not entirely sure.
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Post Post #231 (ISO) » Thu Jul 05, 2007 9:20 am

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My vote is staying on Lawrencelot at the moment. I am not a big fan of days lasting only 1 page.
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Post Post #232 (ISO) » Thu Jul 05, 2007 9:28 am

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I'm intrigued that you were voting me yesterday, but not today.
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Post Post #233 (ISO) » Thu Jul 05, 2007 9:33 am

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gorckat wrote:I'm intrigued that you were voting me yesterday, but not today.
I thought more about "Lawrencelot must being NKed if he is not scum theory" and even though I disagreed with it yesterday, it makes sense to me now.
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Post Post #234 (ISO) » Thu Jul 05, 2007 9:37 am

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JDodge- if I'm town, what does that prove that lynching Lawrence does not?
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Post Post #235 (ISO) » Thu Jul 05, 2007 9:58 am

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Nothing.

But you're making me happier with my vote with every sentence.
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Post Post #236 (ISO) » Thu Jul 05, 2007 10:08 am

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gorckat wrote:JDodge- if I'm town, what does that prove that lynching Lawrence does not?
If you are town?
If
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Post Post #237 (ISO) » Thu Jul 05, 2007 10:33 am

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Sir Tornado wrote:
gorckat wrote:JDodge- if I'm town, what does that prove that lynching Lawrence does not?
If you are town?
If
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Post Post #238 (ISO) » Thu Jul 05, 2007 11:28 am

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vote Lawrencelot.


If he's jester and maffia didn't NK him, we'll go down with the maffia, and I congratulate Lawrencelot with his play.

But logically I think Lawrencelot is the best choice today.

The way I see it now is that Lawrencelot and Sir Tornado have set up this whole scheme of sacrificing Lawrencelot, so Sir Tornado sees it through to the end. But maybe I'm wrong and I have to step back from that idea, and refresh my ideas. Any comments on this suggestion would be welcome though.
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Post Post #239 (ISO) » Thu Jul 05, 2007 11:33 am

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I cam einto today agreeing that we should lynch Lawrencelot if he didn't die, and I still think ti's the right play. It's the sole reason we no lynched, to see if he'd die. Following through with that plan:
vote Lawrencelot
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Post Post #240 (ISO) » Thu Jul 05, 2007 12:21 pm

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(Had to check to see if Romanus allows twilight talk, which he does, since I believe we just nailed Lawrence)

Yes- "If I come up town". I eliminated the cumbersome "If
[you lynch me]
and I come up town". It was hardly a self-confirmation as scum.

I wanted to know what JDodge will gain from that. I also want to know what made his assessment of me as town or Jester change. I'd love to hear YB's reason, too.
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Post Post #241 (ISO) » Thu Jul 05, 2007 12:24 pm

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WeyounsLastClone wrote:The way I see it now is that Lawrencelot and Sir Tornado have set up this whole scheme of sacrificing Lawrencelot, so Sir Tornado sees it through to the end. But maybe I'm wrong and I have to step back from that idea, and refresh my ideas. Any comments on this suggestion would be welcome though.
I thought that, too, which is why I pointed out ST first voted Lawrence, when yesterday he wanted me. I know he said he thought about the plan, but his second post today seems like he hadn't fully reconciled his agreement with the No-Lynch.

I thought his vote was his trying to be fully on board with a Lawrence lynch when he comes up scummy.
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Post Post #242 (ISO) » Thu Jul 05, 2007 12:45 pm

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Unvote, Vote LL
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Post Post #243 (ISO) » Thu Jul 05, 2007 12:53 pm

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He's already gone. Why the change of heart?
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Post Post #244 (ISO) » Thu Jul 05, 2007 9:10 pm

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YogurtBandit wrote:
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If Lawrence comes up scum, this looks like a belated attempt to bus.
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Post Post #245 (ISO) » Thu Jul 05, 2007 10:17 pm

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What a weird town this is. First a no lynch, then a quick-lynch. And all because of gorckat. I will tell you this: whether I turn up Jester or scum, you should stay being suspicious of gorckat. And I think Yogurt is the Jester if I'm not, and I think JDodge is scum if I'm not.
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Post Post #246 (ISO) » Thu Jul 05, 2007 10:54 pm

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How is this weird? The no lynch strategy was entirely to see what would happen in the night. If you weren't nightkilled, you'd be lynched. That was the whole point of the 'no lynch' yesterday.

I think YB is the jester.
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Post Post #247 (ISO) » Fri Jul 06, 2007 1:06 am

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Agreed on YB being the Jester, WLC. It looks almost like he thought the lynch hadn't happened and wanted to get our attention.

And I lol at Lawrence:

whether I turn up Jester or scum


If you were the Jester you'd be hooting and hollering :D
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Post Post #248 (ISO) » Fri Jul 06, 2007 1:15 am

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vote: lawrencelot
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Post Post #249 (ISO) » Fri Jul 06, 2007 1:58 am

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Wow. This is strange. Really strange. First we have someone who claims to be either mafia or scum on day 1. This causes a 'no lynch' strategy. On day 2 it get's 4 against Gorckat against 4 against Lawrencelot early on day 2, with a final 5th vote against Lawrencelot. And then YoghurtBandit
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YB and ThAdmiral, could you please argue why you switched votes?
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