SMITE Role Madness Mafia (OVER AT LAST!)

[Cephrir]

I don't see any point in worrying about him right now because it's very obvious he isn't happening.

Also, even that looks wrong if I stare at it long enough.

[Cephrir]

(Moreover, things)

[T S O]

Well, AP's at L-2 - apparently Solar Wind wants to do stuff so

put him at L-1 but do not hammer.

night. make sure we get a lynch, yes? that's my boys.

[T S O]

Cephrir, I'm madly in love with you and always have been.

[Cephrir]

Sorry boys, I'm taken.

[T S O]

didn't want you anyway

[Solar Wind]

Pls hold off L-1 for now so we can have that convo with FT.

[Skybird]

If you want Solar Wind I can unvote to help make sure you have time. I plan to be around until we lynch or time runs out.

[Imperium]

I'll be around too.

[Skybird]

UNVOTE:

[farside22]

If I had to guess a scum-team, I'd say Ceph, TD, mastin, and some lurkers.

Did you find Mastin's posting significantly different from Tales of You?

On Farside, my main issue was that as hard as I tried I can't differentiate between her case on Ace versus Rach's case on Ace and why she was suddenly convinced by me that Ace is town and then went after Rach instead and the Rach push felt super weak. Why is she town?

I did ask you to quote both and explain how it is the same case.

Did you do that?

[Solar Wind]

If you want Solar Wind I can unvote to help make sure you have time. I plan to be around until we lynch or time runs out.

Thanks.

If I had to guess a scum-team, I'd say Ceph, TD, mastin, and some lurkers.

Did you find Mastin's posting significantly different from Tales of You?

On Farside, my main issue was that as hard as I tried I can't differentiate between her case on Ace versus Rach's case on Ace and why she was suddenly convinced by me that Ace is town and then went after Rach instead and the Rach push felt super weak. Why is she town?

I did ask you to quote both and explain how it is the same case.

Did you do that?

I don't think f-16 has done that yet.

[farside22]

Just a point of reference.
Here where my points against ace.

Okay so I reread the iso to remind myself of what I had noted as a person of interested, which will bring me back to aceofspades after this post.
Or I can do it all in one now that I'm at a computer.

Anyways first ooba.

I'm against outing neighbourhoods this game. Here are some scenarios where not outing actually helps:
- Scum\third party needing to target particular pantheons for their abilities
-

Town informational roles sharing info to the neighbourhood.

A cop can share his reads with the other people. One of the others can claim. etc.

Town

13. Solar Wind (F-16_Fighting_Falcon and fferyllt)
16. Imperium (Tammy and Nacho) - Times where I had my doubts and still do - town for now though.
23. Bitmap

Please put pressure on fourth. Good chance we might have scum there.

19. Ankamius

Townish

1. Angrypidgeon - I hope he's town. Like his tone. Also not sure where he's going with the house push - but not sure if scum would choose to push that avenue right now. High level scum players might - so I'm not sure.
21. House - Not strong but leaning town for claim.
17. RachMarie - Weak town - no particular reason.

Null but some thoughts

2. Metal Sonic - Did not like the entry to the thread. Then the 'let's out all neighbourhoods' was town. The leadership\posting after that was town - his list had too many town reads. [But Solar Wind had a similar list - so idk]. Can't call him town for now.
24. Xombie - I can't really place the current vote on MS. Would scum really do that?

I noted this post because he wanted pressure on Anka but wasn't voting him and then later without much said.

This looks like vezo-town although I'm not sure if it's his scum-him trying to play to that meta. Leaning town though.

TD's entrance also felt town to me.

Vote: BRantz

He votes brantz

It's a bit random and without reasoning there.

What is the difference between town vezo and scum vezo?

Scum vezo is more calculated. Town vezo doesn't care for appearances as much. I don't see scum vezo drawing this much attention to his slot. Then again, it's easy to fake. (and I did mention this recently in a game too)

As for the skim i've done on

neighborhoods

. I do have to say

they

help me. If only by limiting the information i get, and not spinning my head around freakishly.

Plural?

Also this was a really good catch by ooba and I was a bit surprised this did not get pushed more when aceofspades did post.


Now let me talk about aceofspades he has a total of 3 post.
Yup that's it.

This was the 2nd post by him

Ok i'm here. Finished reading too. Just dumping my thoughts.

First, to xombie's and someone else who i can't remember thing about neighborhoods. Yes plural. This isn't a new mechanic is it? Been done before. Don't think so. Yes they (plural) help me.

MS is pretty much almost obvitown. Idk much about him though.

Bitmap Rach Ihouse imp and solar wind are also fairly strong townreads.

xombie i'm reserving judgement on.

Everyone else is almost as lurky as me. Except in a few cases

Read vezok ISO. Strong townread.

I'll iso the other guys in a moment too

The neighborhood response really reads awkward to me.
Like if I had said neighbors I would have said something more like. I have played in a lot of neighbor games and they help me. He emphasized and got snippy about it.
then he talks about lurkers in the game and doesn't really move forward till

I got prodded.

I don't really know waht to do. I feel overwhelmed with all this.

All i can really say now is that i'm adding fourtrouble to my townread list.


And i'm really not a fan of AP right now (sorry friend. i like you)

you have people talking about AP and he never said what he doesn't like or why.

Vote: theaceofspades

Bad week for me.

vote: four trouble

Soulless sack of poo. AP might be town, changed my mind. Don't like that he's running with his tail between his legs but I get good feelings reading him.

Can you give examples of where you see this and why is it scummy?

i get snippy. i'm a snippy person. I felt it was a bit of a reach. Yes plural.

and i been busy. so i haven't posted, hopefully i can fix that.

idk what "you have people talking about AP " but for me it was mostly about 1058. Plus i totally disagree with his reads on farside and MS. And i don't really see how he could have those opinions

Ooba asked the say question. He is not a newb. The wording caught his eye,so your response being primary towards the newb making it read very demeaning towards him.
So you have one post from ap you don't like?
That's it?

Yea I'm not moving my vote.


Ap: I think it was that I didn't make a list. Sometimes I make list, sometimes I don't. I don't really explain town reads unless someone finds them scummy.

@ Farside, you've been engaging TheAceOfSpades's read on AngryPidgeon. Why not mine?

Because ace has said very little and I don't want anyone else to respond till he explains himself without help.

Okay back to ace for a moment.

He pointed to an issue with AP, based in 3 post.
He (ace) said my case was in regards to 3 post ace made. Well ace had a total of 3 post for the whole game, his comparison is shit.
Ace brought up not liking ap's point against me. I was saying many already stated an issue, why that is a scum tell is not explained by ace.
Finally ace has an issue with the ms point ap made, but td doesn't find ms, why no comment towards td?

This is where I see ace still as scum. AP gets pressure and suddenly out of the blue here comes ace not liking AP.

[farside22]

This was rach points against ace

Vote Tiphaine

I'm gonna give Ceph a chance to catch up, but I'm pretty sure he's scum.

Your case on Mantis was coming in voting someone and splitting? She was then replaced by Cephir so whats up with this read?

Ok i'm here. Finished reading too. Just dumping my thoughts.

First, to xombie's and someone else who i can't remember thing about neighborhoods.

Yes plural. This isn't a new mechanic is it? Been done before. Don't think so. Yes they (plural) help me.

MS is pretty much almost obvitown. Idk much about him though.

Bitmap Rach Ihouse imp and solar wind are also fairly strong townreads.

xombie i'm reserving judgement on.

Everyone else is almost as lurky as me. Except in a few cases

Read vezok ISO. Strong townread.

I'll iso the other guys in a moment too

How can you be in more than ONE neighborhood? Sounds like a scum slip to me.

Eh what? Everyone is lurking including me except for those who are not lurking?

VOTE: Ace dude

Not willing to lynch today or most likely ever that froofroo was SO TOWN V TOWN duh:

Solar Wind
Imperium


Not willing to consider much today because they are out of action

MS
Bit (have a scum read and not seeing all the town praise)


Feel pretty good about being in the town pile:

Cephrir
House
Ooba
vezokpiraka
FourTrouble

Skybird This is a weaker read since not much here yet, but feels like a good start.

Farside22 This one is a bit weaker I would feel better if she had more town reads at this point, she seems to be focused only on her scum reads for the most part. But she gets town points for trying to push activity and pushing on others. Her read on me seems strange, but meh does not prevent her from being town.

Still sorting out Due to harder for me to sort, or lack of presence

Mask
TSO
Ank
VysePresident

PeregrineV conf bias/not much to go on

Angrypidgeon This bothers me I want a better read on him bah I know he was V/LA waiting to see if he catches up and starts doing the flamboyance of his normal towny self

Beast Not much to go on, a few posts about specific peeps but those posts feel towny, I wish I had more to go on with him and a better read from him on other people in the game. Which is why he is not in the town pile at this point.


Scummy feelings and not good feelings about

Aeronaut Plays the summary game (IIoA) and keeps his vote on MS? even though he knows MS is out of the game for this day? Could be MS, Aeronaut, and Bit are all team mates, but too soon to tell especially untill we gat some flips.

Ace (My vote stays HERE)
Everyone is lurking except for a few cases. Umm what? Seriously whining about lurking but not pushing activity gets you mucho scum points dude. Not to mention the lack of logic and IIoA in that statement. Plus I hate everyone and I do not do meta or any other things that help with scum hunting just does not help. It is DAY ONE dude there is not a heck of a lot to go on or analyze unless you look at meta, how much experience players have etc. ESPECIALLY when so many are lurking.

Pretty sure that those who are out of the game, one is scum and the other is town. Though there is the possibility they are working together and came up with a scheme to prevent them from getting lynched.

Sorry for the wall but there ya go my reads meh as they are.

[Imperium]

ace saying last night that he was on page 89, which is not that far behind, and that he would be doing iso's for the reasons for the other votes he would make when he finished reading, and then not coming back at all isn't sitting well.

[farside22]

I also explained my rach scum read and I still feel she's not scum hunting or progressing reads.
The case she made was nothing like mine and I'm sick of solar saying it is.

[Imperium]

Also in trying to figure out if AP has been posting everywhere but here, I learned that he also has a cat named Waffles. :/

[Cephrir]

Is it possible that he forgot this game existed somehow....

[Imperium]

He logged in today.

[Imperium]

He's logged in right now!

[FourTrouble]

Fuck, just remembered deadline is coming up. I'm super drunk and about to head to another bar - who should I vote for? I can't catch up right now, sorry guys.

[FourTrouble]

Pls hold off L-1 for now so we can have that convo with FT.

What convo? I have like 5 minutes. What do you want to know?

[Solar Wind]

Your townread on Farside.

[theaceofspades]

i'm here. what's cracking? i'd still lynch mastin

[FourTrouble]

Ft: why have you not posted in the neighborhood?

Metal: don't be stupid this game.

<3

farside i hope you are town

I am.
It is 11pm and I'm still awake and playing.

This is super town.

I don't have time to go in-depth but I think this + farside's push on Ace/Rach are enough to clear her (or him?). The pushes had a huge town vibe to them; they're just super genuine and the conviction and tunneling feels extremely town.