NY 179: Cute and Fluffy Mafia (Town Win)

[DrippingGoofball]

ABR is on my wagon already. No guilty crumb.

What do you think of DS?

Yes you do. You crumbed a guilty on ABR.

Why would ABR missed out on yesterday's ika wagon? ABR goes from wagon to wagon like a crack ho in a drive in movie parking lot.

[Nero Cain]

oh. I thought you were talking about ABR being on my wagon. Maybe he is Ika's scumbuddy afterall. *shrugz*

[The Dream Weaver]

VoteCount 3.2

Albert B. Rampage (1):

Dripping Goofball

d3x (1):

TellTaleHeart

dragonspawn (2):

TheDudeAbides, Nero Cain

Dripping Goofball (0):

Flubbernugget(0):

Garmr (0):

I Am Innocent (0):

Kthxbye (0):

NakedJogger (0):

Nero Cain (5):

Garmr, dragonspawn, Albert B. Rampage, Flubbernugget, StrangerCoug

Peacebringer (0):

randomidget (1):

Kthxbye

StrangerCoug (1):

d3x

TellTaleHeart(0):

TheDudeAbides (0):

Not Voting

- I Am Innocent, NakedJogger, Peacebringer, randomidget

With 15 alive it takes 8 to lynch.

Day 3 ends in (expired on 2015-02-19 14:00:00).

[Randomnamechange]

VOTE: nero
Why didnt you vig me?

[Randomnamechange]

I didn't read the thread before that post. I thought no one was nk'ed and the post above was the day open post.

[I Am Innocent]

L-2 already, really? As the person who led/continued the attack on Nero most of D2, he is not the best play today.

I stand by what I said the end of D2, which led me to the ika wagon over RM:

Interesting that of the first 7 players on penguins final wagon, 6 are either currently voting RM or have voted him today. (The 8th vote on that wagon was RM himself, followed by the self vote then Ikas hammer.)

I'm going to do a 180 here and:

unvote Nero Cain
Vote ika

I believe this makes 7 votes a piece (will move to RM to prevent a no lynch)

The six players are {d3x, DS, DGB, garmr, NJ, & PB}. There is definite scum in here.

Here's food for thought.

d3x had one vote D1: Penguin (flipped town). Pretty much led the charge on him

d3x had two votes D2: RM (the CW to ika, and similar votees as Penguin wagon) and Kid A (flipped town)

Plus I still think there is scum in that 3 person neighborhood, just no longer think it is Nero, but d3X. His flip would almost confirm Nero as town at that point.

vote d3x

[I Am Innocent]

I'll be on periodically for the next few hours. After that, I cannot guarantee that I'll be around for the deadline.

RM 6 votes, ika 5

Then....

@Kthx- IAI just said he'd Hammer midget to avoid a No Lynch. Why are you switching?

/sigh

Your thoughts on ika include this...

Maybe RM is a scum PR and ika isn't

And just because he isn't here now, doesn't mean he wouldn't be here at the deadline, but w/e.

No use crying over spilled milk.

Hey look! IAI's here...

Look someone wasn't only here, but upset by the wagon shift.

[PeaceBringer]

vote D3x

[I Am Innocent]

Wagons today so far suck guys. More PB, or Nero votes would be great.

We are not lynching Nero Cain and I will do everything within my power to protect that from happening.

Hey SC what happened to this read?

[I Am Innocent]

Wow this is a bad post as it shows strange cougar not paying attention to what's happening.

It's only 3 votes. 2 of those votes were me and ds. Me and ds discussed who we thought was scum and we both thought he was most likely scum.

I don't know about Abr through.

There only being three votes doesn't mean those three votes can't be piled on insanely fast. Quality, not quantity. The most your post says to me is that, if scum is voting Nero, I should be looking at ABR. So your post really doesn't do enough to discredit mine.

OK, the Nero Cain wagon sprung up

WAY

too quickly for my liking. At least one person voting him is scum. I'll tell you that right now.

Holding off voting until I actually look at the people on him.

And this?

[DrippingGoofball]

VOTE: nero
Why didnt you vig me?

Why didn't you NK him?

[FakedBlogger]

VOTE: d3x

[PeaceBringer]

I still want explanation from Gamer and dragon

[Garmr]

explain what peace?

[Garmr]

I just have a town read on ds from stuff that goes on in the pt. You can't change a man.

[Randomnamechange]

VOTE: nero
Why didnt you vig me?

Why didn't you NK him?

He said he would vig me.

[dragonspawn]

I still want explanation from Gamer and dragon

what exactly do you want explained?

[dragonspawn]

VOTE: nero
Why didnt you vig me?

Why didn't you NK him?

He said he would vig me.

and yet you are still alive.

what's more he claimed to be vig and no one killed him. After he pushed for ika yo be lynched.

[TellTaleHeart]

Wow this is a bad post as it shows strange cougar not paying attention to what's happening.

It's only 3 votes. 2 of those votes were me and ds. Me and ds discussed who we thought was scum and we both thought he was most likely scum.

I don't know about Abr through.

There only being three votes doesn't mean those three votes can't be piled on insanely fast. Quality, not quantity. The most your post says to me is that, if scum is voting Nero, I should be looking at ABR. So your post really doesn't do enough to discredit mine.

OK, the Nero Cain wagon sprung up

WAY

too quickly for my liking. At least one person voting him is scum. I'll tell you that right now.

Holding off voting until I actually look at the people on him.

And this?

StrangerCoug is scum as well. The over-the-top whiteknighting of Nero before was scummy enough, but having that "read" suddenly change on such tenuous evidence (the "slip") is scum opportunism.

[TellTaleHeart]

TTH: having bad reads since #983

<3 you too Nero.

And d3x has been pushing a scum agenda since Day 1.

[PeaceBringer]

explain what peace?

shift from your case on RM

[TellTaleHeart]

Another thing to look at is the KidA death. Unless we have a vig in the mix, it's really odd that he was not on either lynch wagon and stuck to his DGB vote for 2 days straight. I don't see the scum motivation to off him since he wasn't the towniest looking player in this game by far. DGB needs a closer look I think.

I think the priority system behind the scum kills have been to kill the players who are unlikely to draw the protective roles, hunt town specials, or avoid leaving a trail that could lead back to them. Likely it's a combination of any or all those. That would suggest the scum team currently isn't under enough pressure to start killing their detractors. d3x fits the profile for that.

[dragonspawn]

explain what peace?

shift from your case on RM

I would think the fact that we had two flips, one of which being scum as well as now two scum slips from Nero would be explanation enough. While its possible rm is scum the newer evidence we have puts it into question. And the evidence for Nero is just overwhelming to me at the moment. Last time I ignored evidence like this I missed a scum and I won't do it again.

[d3x]

lol, I'm surprised it took this many pages for someone to come after me {TT's doesn't count, she said nothing}.

Unofficial VC as of right now

Albert B. Rampage (1): Dripping Goofball
d3x (4): TellTaleHeart, IAI, Peacebringer, NakedJogger
dragonspawn (2): TheDudeAbides, Nero Cain
Dripping Goofball (0):
Flubbernugget(0):
Garmr (0):
I Am Innocent (0):
Kthxbye (0):
NakedJogger (0):
Nero Cain (6): Garmr, dragonspawn, Albert B. Rampage, Flubbernugget, StrangerCoug, randommidget
Peacebringer (0):
randomidget (1): Kthxbye
StrangerCoug (1): d3x
TellTaleHeart(0):
TheDudeAbides (0):

Not Voting - no one

Bits of information that I feel are important.

Kthx is ConfTown. I have proof, but I'd rather not divulge any more at this juncture.
Garmr is scummier than dragon {regardless of my Hoodie's private opinions}. Nero is scummier than Dude {the 'slips' and the lack of Kills from a Claimed Vig}, but is townier than either dragon or Garmr. Dude is Town. That's your Lynch order of the Hoods if it goes down like that. There should be 1 Scum in the remainder of Hoodies after I flip Town.

There's no way that both Garmr and dragon are Scum unless we're in MultiBall or they're making it all up. We still have no evidence of MB and if they're making it up, we'll know as soon as one of them flips {b/c they won't have the Role - Neighbor}. One Scum flip clears the other.

midget should still be on the table. There is no logical reason that ikaScum should selfVote in the position he was in if midget is Town. It wasn't until Kthx swapped to ika that the midgetWagon became ultimately nonviable.

The hot and heavy pushes and rushes Today scream of Scum, but I'd expect one or two to still be trying to sit the dust up out. My money puts that on ABR and Garmr for the early aggroScum with midget and either Peace or Jogger as the late slow play Scum.

Spoiler: Lynch Wagons

For ease of reference...

D1 LYNCH

Albert B. Rampage (0):
d3x (0):
dragonspawn (1): TheDudeAbides
Dripping Goofball (1):

Kid A

evilpacman18

(0):
firebound12 (1): I Am Innocent
Flubbernugget(0):
Garmr (0):
I Am Innocent (1): Nero Cain

Ika

(0):

Kid A

(0):

killapenwin

(LYNCH): d3x, NakedJogger, Garmr, dragonspawn, Albert B. Rampage, Peacebringer, Dripping Goofball, randomidget,

Killapenwin

,

Ika

Kthxbye

(0):
NakedJogger (0):
Nero Cain (0):
Peacebringer (0):
randomidget (0):
TheDudeAbides (2): Flubbernugget, YuniChikako
YuniChikako (0):

Not Voting -

Kthxbye

,

evilpacman18

, firebound12

DAY 2 LYNCH

Albert B. Rampage (0):
d3x (0):
dragonspawn (0):
Dripping Goofball (1):

Kid A

Flubbernugget(0):
Garmr (0):
I Am Innocent (0):

Ika

(LYNCH): TheDudeAbides, randomidget, Dripping Goofball, TellTaleHeart,

Ika

, I Am Innocent,

Kthxbye

, dragonspawn, Nero Cain

Kid A

(0):

Kthxbye

(0):
NakedJogger (0):
Nero Cain (2): Albert B. Rampage, Flubbernugget
Peacebringer (0):
randomidget (5): d3x, Garmr, Peacebringer, StrangerCoug, NakedJogger
StrangerCoug (0):
TellTaleHeart(0):
TheDudeAbides (0):

Not Voting - No one.

Spoiler: Important Vote Count

VoteCount 2.12

Albert B. Rampage (0):
d3x (1): NakedJogger
dragonspawn (0):
Dripping Goofball (1):

Kid A

Flubbernugget(0):
Garmr (0):
I Am Innocent (0):

Ika

(5): TheDudeAbides, Nero Cain, randomidget, Dripping Goofball, TellTaleHeart

Kid A

(0):

Kthxbye

(1):

Ika

NakedJogger (0):
Nero Cain (3): Albert B. Rampage, I Am Innocent, Flubbernugget
Peacebringer (0):
randomidget (6): dragonspawn, d3x, Garmr, Peacebringer, StrangerCoug,

Kthxbye

StrangerCoug (0):
TellTaleHeart(0):
TheDudeAbides (0):

Not Voting

- No one.

With 17 alive it takes 9 to lynch.

Right after this, ika selfVotes and Nero repositions himself on the ikaWagon bringing it to ika6/midget6. Jogger immediately pushes it back to 6/7 and IAI keeps the ikaWagon in play. Unless midget ever flips ScumPR, I think IAI is off the table and Jogger should be kept in the LynchPool.

I'd say that we got the reactions we were looking for, so...

UnVote/Vote: Garmr

I don't selfVote outside of ScumHammering myself in a lost cause, so you people will have to run me up normal-like.

[d3x]

If Nero is Scum, I'd be pretty surprised and impressed. His Scumplay last game was very different. He had a similar position in that he should've been a hard TownRead due to VCA early on, but instead of flaunting it, he slow played it. He was only caught by the Cop, iirc.