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Post Post #200 (ISO) » Tue Feb 03, 2015 5:48 am

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In post 198, Lucky2u wrote:Ok, since this is a thing now...

hopkirk -> Goodmorning (vietnam!!!)

scripten -> beast -> serra

PN -> zeb -> BB

I would like to see everyone let their preferences know because I am seeing a pattern so far that is making me a little uncomfortable.



You don't like the pattern so far of preferences, yet your preferences with the "least preferred"- Serra, bb and gm - are the same as most?

What could be making you uncomfortable them?
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Post Post #201 (ISO) » Tue Feb 03, 2015 5:48 am

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Then*
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Post Post #202 (ISO) » Tue Feb 03, 2015 7:18 am

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In post 189, Scripten wrote:
In post 186, goodmorning wrote:I was liking Hopkirk til 172, now I think maybe not so Town?

As for me not really being around: I'm taking six 3000-level classes. My professors are mostly ridiculous.

Can you go into a bit of detail about what you don't like about 172? I have my own issues with the post, but I'm surprised it would make you do a 180.

Also, totally understand. Last semester of my senior year right now. All upper division classes.

My main problem is the enumerated responses to Lucky's 99. There's a marked propensity there for staring fixedly at one possibility and ignoring the rest.

They seem to get further from the real world every semester.

I'm enjoying seeing PN actually posting. I'll have to do a reread at some point.
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Post Post #203 (ISO) » Tue Feb 03, 2015 8:55 am

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In post 192, Perpetual Nonsense wrote:There is no reason to make further considerations if you aren't going to vote Molla. A Molla lynch then becomes impossible. That leaves only two choices. You, and Me. Please don't twist my words.
A vote on Molla makes no sense and has no point given you townreading him, and you thinking We are more scummy than Molla.

This is thinking about votes and reads tactically rather than organically. :(
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Post Post #204 (ISO) » Tue Feb 03, 2015 8:57 am

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In post 194, Perpetual Nonsense wrote:Right now, I see you're prodding people to talk more and checking on their activity.
However, if you're town, your survival means the most right now
to you, more than figuring our the other blocks seeing as you're the one most likely to die right now, being the only one player with a majority of two votes.

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Post Post #205 (ISO) » Tue Feb 03, 2015 8:59 am

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Mind you, Zeb also doesn't look great on that last page, but I'd rather lynch PN.
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Post Post #206 (ISO) » Tue Feb 03, 2015 12:29 pm

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Possible v/la. Neighborhood is without power due to car crashing into underground transformer across the street from my house and causing a fire...
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Post Post #207 (ISO) » Tue Feb 03, 2015 2:20 pm

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I think serra is over reacting

*shrug*
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Post Post #208 (ISO) » Tue Feb 03, 2015 2:22 pm

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Zeb voting PN is wierd as fuck though.
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Post Post #209 (ISO) » Tue Feb 03, 2015 2:22 pm

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In a not what I expected from scum way
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Post Post #210 (ISO) » Tue Feb 03, 2015 2:22 pm

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Oh nvm I get it
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Post Post #211 (ISO) » Tue Feb 03, 2015 2:24 pm

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PN what is your read on me
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Post Post #212 (ISO) » Tue Feb 03, 2015 2:30 pm

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In post 207, BBmolla wrote:I think serra is over reacting

*shrug*

Why?
In post 208, BBmolla wrote:Zeb voting PN is wierd as fuck though.

Why?
In post 209, BBmolla wrote:In a not what I expected from scum way

Why?
In post 210, BBmolla wrote:Oh nvm I get it

Get what?
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Post Post #213 (ISO) » Tue Feb 03, 2015 2:51 pm

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Random strategy I just thought of: If we hit 1 scum D1 and mislynch D2 in a group where town died D2, then policy lynching the 3rd member will give Town and 67% chance of victory. I'd policy lynch if I lived that long, though I'll probably be lynched or nightkilled
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Post Post #214 (ISO) » Tue Feb 03, 2015 5:02 pm

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In post 199, Lucky2u wrote:
In post 197, Zebulin wrote:Nonononono. Just because I'm townreading Molla doesn't eliminate the chance that Molla's scum, and I'm giving it a 60/40 chance that you're scum compared to BBMolla. Keep in mind I said you're leaning town. I'll vote Molla if he looks scummier than you or keeps lurking, because it's frustrating me.


This backpedaling makes me want to change my list...

This post. This post made me go from strong-town to null.
In post 159, BBmolla wrote:Like I'm pretty content to lynch Zebulin and WP and go from there, so I don't have much more to say

Easily scum not having to contribute to scumhunting. Town doesn't have a motivation to not say anything.

PN: It's better for me to be lynched D1 than to get a townie lynched D1 and be lynched D2. That's why I'm more focused on figuring out which of you or BBMolla is scum than trying to save my own life.
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Post Post #215 (ISO) » Tue Feb 03, 2015 6:20 pm

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In post 212, Zebulin wrote:
In post 207, BBmolla wrote:I think serra is over reacting

*shrug*

Why?
In post 208, BBmolla wrote:Zeb voting PN is wierd as fuck though.

Why?
In post 209, BBmolla wrote:In a not what I expected from scum way

Why?
In post 210, BBmolla wrote:Oh nvm I get it

Get what?

Cause "However, if you're town, your survival means the most right now" doesn't really mean shit imo. I say that as town all the time.

I figured you'd have an easier time cross voting me

But then I saw we were both voting you and then it made sense you'd lynch the person more people think is scum
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Post Post #216 (ISO) » Tue Feb 03, 2015 6:31 pm

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Why do you think serra is overreacting?
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Post Post #217 (ISO) » Tue Feb 03, 2015 8:47 pm

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Cause I do?

I don't really know how to answer that.

His thought on what someone would say as scum is different than mine.
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Post Post #218 (ISO) » Wed Feb 04, 2015 3:24 am

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In post 213, Zebulin wrote:Random strategy I just thought of: If we hit 1 scum D1 and mislynch D2 in a group where town died D2, then policy lynching the 3rd member will give Town and 67% chance of victory. I'd policy lynch if I lived that long, though I'll probably be lynched or nightkilled
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That wouldn't happen, because Scum would have to kill a confTown from the group where Scum was hit.
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Post Post #219 (ISO) » Wed Feb 04, 2015 4:07 am

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In post 218, goodmorning wrote:
In post 213, Zebulin wrote:Random strategy I just thought of: If we hit 1 scum D1 and mislynch D2 in a group where town died D2, then policy lynching the 3rd member will give Town and 67% chance of victory. I'd policy lynch if I lived that long, though I'll probably be lynched or nightkilled
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That wouldn't happen, because Scum would have to kill a confTown from the group where Scum was hit.


Let's say that we hit one scum Day 1, in group A.

A: Town, Town
B: Town, Town/Scum
C: Town, Town/Scum

Scum obviously kills from Group A, the confirmed town group.

A: Town
B: Town, Town/Scum
C: Town, Town/Scum

Let's say we mislynch in B.

A: Town
B: Town/Scum
C: Town, Town/Scum

Group A dies again.

B: Town/Scum
C: Town, Town/Scum

At this point, there's a 50% chance of the player in B to be scum, but lynching from group C only gives us a 25% chance of catching scum (50% chance you hit the scum member, 50% chance there's actually a scum member). Unless someone in C was obviously scum (i.e. quick-hammer) I would policy lynch the member in Group B. There is a 2/3rds chance you made the right call, hence 67% chance (not 67% chance of victory, I worded that wrong.)
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Post Post #220 (ISO) » Wed Feb 04, 2015 4:21 am

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In post 217, BBmolla wrote:Cause I do?

I don't really know how to answer that.

His thought on what someone would say as scum is different than mine.

So in what sense am I overreacting rather than just wrong? PN basically claimed that it made no sense to do anything but crossvote, and hence they didn't need to think about their reads. That logical inversion of reads and votes isn't a sensible way for town to think.

Zeb's maths is wrong, though I'm sure he believes it. Hitting town twice in a group makes it more likely that group was the all-town one, so everyone not conftown should be treated equally from D2.
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Post Post #221 (ISO) » Wed Feb 04, 2015 4:35 am

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Zek you are aware that three people are going to get lynched today right? Going into night 1 will have 6 players left. Day 2 will start with 5 (and potentially be LyLo). Your order of death is off.
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Post Post #222 (ISO) » Wed Feb 04, 2015 4:41 am

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Zeb* autocorrect hates you.

Hitting 1 scum today will end up like this

A: Town, Town (dead scum)
B: Town, Town (dead town)
C: Town, Scum (dead mislynched town)

Scum will kill from A because they are both now conf town. Leaving us with

A: Town (confirmed)
B: Town Town (unconfirmed)
C: Town Scum (unconfirmed)

We will lynch between B and C for the rest of the game.
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Post Post #223 (ISO) » Wed Feb 04, 2015 4:47 am

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In post 220, serrapaladin wrote:
In post 217, BBmolla wrote:Cause I do?

I don't really know how to answer that.

His thought on what someone would say as scum is different than mine.

So in what sense am I overreacting rather than just wrong? PN basically claimed that it made no sense to do anything but crossvote, and hence they didn't need to think about their reads. That logical inversion of reads and votes isn't a sensible way for town to think.

Zeb's maths is wrong, though I'm sure he believes it. Hitting town twice in a group makes it more likely that group was the all-town one, so everyone not conftown should be treated equally from D2.

...my bad.

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Post Post #224 (ISO) » Wed Feb 04, 2015 5:06 am

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You don't strike me as someone who fakes mistaking how the mechanics of this game work, and I think that mistake is more town than scum. I am happy with PN as your lynch target. So go do it.
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