SMITE Role Madness Mafia (OVER AT LAST!)

[farside22]

Read everything.
Still no original thought from ace so vote still staying.

[Cephrir]

1579+1580=cephrir scum. He responds to my same post in two different, both derogatory ways. He planned and wanted to respond and make sure I got shut down and lumped in as scum with ace, he also forgot he had already done so, not town play. See, ace has been incredibly scummy, but he can't be scum as long is cephrir is unless we are in multiball, so cephrir is the lynch.

What the fuck?

First of all, you still haven't explained that remark, which even you should be able to see appears pretty baseless. Unless you can supply a reason why you said it, it deserves a derogatory response and will continue to get one for days. Second of all, there is nothing scummy about the fact that I accidentally responded twice. Why are scum more likely to forget that? They're not. I lost track of which page I was on, but it makes total sense to me that I would respond to that twice, because it sticks out so sorely as baseless. Yeah, you're right I want you giving yourself a pass to get shut down. Why would I not want that? Your assertion that I can't be scum with ace is also remarkably simplistic, and I'm just becoming more convinced that the two of you are both scum. Since when has ace been incredibly scummy? Where the hell have you said that before? Get the fuck out with this bullshit. This whole thing is a deflection.

This is scum.

I don't think that's right, but it makes me feel better about house.

I feel worse about solar wind though :/

Are you really not done worrying about them yet?

Because I compliment his votelessness for town's sake by lowering the threshold and putting us back on square one....that seems more tow sided for him than scum losing a vote to null-vote someone.

The only thing keeping me from scumreading beast is his claim, tbh.

The reason I brought it out here instead of leaving it up to him is because I can't figure out whether it's a town-sided or scum-sided role & figured more brains on it might figure it out easier.

If I was town-reading beast, I wouldn't have spilled the beans on his reveal.

This game is role madness and I'm not gonna read into whether abilities look scummy or not. Partly because one of my abilities looks scummy on paper. If he lies, then fine, that's different, but from the sound of it I think that is unlikely.

[TiphaineDeath]

Man, people, and scum especially get in to the most wifomy bullshit on this site and then say that you can't say what's wrong or right because scum could be pulling all sorts of random shit but you know what is almost always true? Occham, Occham is almost always true. If people do things that on a basic level don't make sense from point of view X, they usually don't have point of view X. There are times when that is untrue, but they are few and far between.

[iHouse]

Man, people, and scum especially get in to the most wifomy bullshit on this site and then say that you can't say what's wrong or right because scum could be pulling all sorts of random shit but you know what is almost always true? Occham, Occham is almost always true. If people do things that on a basic level don't make sense from point of view X, they usually don't have point of view X. There are times when that is untrue, but they are few and far between.

I recently won a game as scum because town leaned on Occam's Razor, so I'd rather not take the lazy route.

[beastcharizard]

I'm suspecting beastcharizard is a vote nullifier.

1. Yeah that fucking town, telling people what you think someone's power is.
2. That isn't how my role works and you could have waited for me to answer you in the QT.
3. If that was how my power worked, then you just told scum how dangerous I am and that I can make it so that they don't have a vote.

Still want to clarify. That isn't how my role works at all.

[iHouse]

If I was town-reading beast, I wouldn't have spilled the beans on his reveal.

*cough*

[beastcharizard]

Right, so your reads are the be all end all. That was selfish and doesn't seem town motivated.

[Cephrir]

Man, people, and scum especially get in to the most wifomy bullshit on this site and then say that you can't say what's wrong or right because scum could be pulling all sorts of random shit but you know what is almost always true? Occham, Occham is almost always true. If people do things that on a basic level don't make sense from point of view X, they usually don't have point of view X. There are times when that is untrue, but they are few and far between.

So are you going to address anything I just said

Or pretend your points are valid

VOTE: TD

[iHouse]

Right, so your reads are the be all end all.

They are to me.

[beastcharizard]

This game isn't just about you. You have to think about what is best for town not yourself. If my role had actually worked like you thought then it would have been anti-town of you to out it even if you thought I was scum because there is always a chance all of your reads are wrong. You don't have some sort of cop guilty on me and if you did you would be lieing anyway.

You only outed I have a vote of 0 at this point, which I basically outed myself, but no one knew it was my role that does it and not some abstract power. I just don't feel you thought it all the way through or you are scum. I can't do jack shit about either because I don't actually have a vote that counts.

[Xombie]

Sorry guys
Ill have some time to catch up in this after the game tonight

[T S O]

well he got the towncreds for it so everything is great right

[beastcharizard]

what are you talking about TSO?

[T S O]

It's sarcasm, Beast.

He was wrong to out it and did it to look good, rather than any actual positive effect it would have.

[beastcharizard]

This is why I like you TSO. You get me.

[T S O]

<3

[T S O]

And, yeah, Beast revealed this in the QT. Some of us saw it and didn't feel the need to immediately blurt it out in the thread. Some of us did.

[mastin2]

Votecount 15: Accurate votecounts are hard.
Theaceofspades (8): AngryPidgeon, Farside22, vezokpiraka, mastin2, xombie, PeregrineV, Cephrir, Rachmarie
FourTrouble (1): The Mask, iHouse
vezokpiraka (1): Skybird
TiphaineDeath (1): FourTrouble
AngryPidgeon (1): theaceofspades
Rachmarie (1): Ooba
Cephrir (1): TiphaineDeath
iHouse (0): beastcharizard
Not voting: ZZZX, Solar Wind, VysePresident, imperium, TSO, Ankamius, Aeronaut
Reminder that it's 12 to lynch and not 13.
Deadline 6 days and 8 hours!

Uhh...Ceph joined five posts above, with none of them being Rach.

[mastin2]

Mastin worries me a little, too, especially if multiball turns out to be a thing.

Scumhunting god. You need not fear.

[Imperium]

I feel like the aceofspades is one of those players who gives off scummytells but is not actually scum.

I think he gives off scummy tells and is actually scum.

If ace flips scum Imperium's defense of him in that post might be worth keeping in mind.

Heh.

[mastin2]

Saving Mastin for later she has a lot of content and she is one of those who I struggle with pegging especially early on.

Lots of content my beehind.

I've given practically none to this game at all.

[Imperium]

So yeah deadline soon and woohoo. Screw your all.

I'm town as fuck in case ur too dumb to realize. Basically I'm able to affect lynch thresholds and beast counteracts me by bringing the votes back up in his personal favour. Seems scumsided in case I (as town) reduce the threshold of his party. I mean, why have him as multivoter and me as someone who can bump the threshold as well?

Meh. Just throwing that out there because we're pretty strong in lylo/near lylo if both town.

Yeah, this strengthens the town read I had here.

[Imperium]

No wait. If beast's vote doesn't count against anyone at the expense of making their vote not count, then maybe town (from my pov)? Because I compliment his votelessness for town's sake by lowering the threshold and putting us back on square one....that seems more tow sided for him than scum losing a vote to null-vote someone.

I mean....eh. Kinda confused but still in "outguess the mod" mode. Don't lie, you know you guys do it too.

I want to say beast is town now...BUT I have an actual townread on house and so will defer judgment of beast to him.

Also eat shit and die.

And this makes it stronger. I feel like I'm seeing a parallel version of myself from asoiaf here.

[Imperium]

Read everything.
Still no original thought from ace so vote still staying.

Why is that scum?

I mean I know this is how you think because in the only game we played together you though KK was town for original thought but he wasn't.

But I'm just having a hard time seeing ace obvscum here.

[Imperium]

I'm suspecting beastcharizard is a vote nullifier.

1. Yeah that fucking town, telling people what you think someone's power is.
2. That isn't how my role works and you could have waited for me to answer you in the QT.
3. If that was how my power worked, then you just told scum how dangerous I am and that I can make it so that they don't have a vote.

Still want to clarify. That isn't how my role works at all.

This feels townish