Open 28 - Quack Mafia. OVER! But who won? before 466

[curiouskarmadog]

First Quack game...so not sure what will be helpful for the town when it comes to info. off the top...Claiming: Doctor..however, I did nothing in the night, because I was afraid of my possible Quackness killing someone.

also when the Mod posts deaths, is they anyway to disinguish between a Quack death and a mafia hit?

[Dral]

unvote:Dral
vote: Mert

[curiouskarmadog]

unvote:Dral
vote: Mert

any reasons?

[theopor_COD]

I'd rather look to agree on a claiming tactic discussion beforze going to lynch

Looks like someone's already been planning.

unvote, vote Hjallti

[Dral]

unvote:Dral
vote: Mert

any reasons?

OMGUS vote

[Hjallti]

Partly OMGUS

FoS:theopor_COD

Of course I have been planning, I want to win the game. But that is no scumtell.

Look 1 out of a possible 4 townies died the first night.

A townie could die by a scum night kill of a quack protection.

We know that 1 guy died this night. We also already know that Dral tried to protect him. I didn't protect him but someone else. The possibilities are still big, but if we collect data we could find out how the puzzle works.

@Dral: Don't suicide but avoid night choices from now. We need to lynch scum, quacks can stay alive without problem.

[JordanA24]

Should anyone else who protected Fernando last night claim?

[ControlledBurn]

Partly OMGUS

FoS:theopor_COD

Of course I have been planning, I want to win the game. But that is no scumtell.

Look 1 out of a possible 4 townies died the first night.

A townie could die by a scum night kill of a quack protection.

We know that 1 guy died this night. We also already know that Dral tried to protect him.

I didn't protect him but someone else

. The possibilities are still big, but if we collect data we could find out how the puzzle works.

@Dral: Don't suicide but avoid night choices from now. We need to lynch scum, quacks can stay alive without problem.

Can you retype this, as it seems like a lot of random thoughts strung together, unfinished and unintelligible. Bolded specifics.

[curiouskarmadog]

doesnt seem that hard to understand..A townie could die by a scum (during a night kill) even though the quack (who thought he was a doctor) protection that townie.

he (or she?) is saying that they did not protect Fern, that someone else did.

Partly OMGUS

FoS:theopor_COD

Of course I have been planning, I want to win the game. But that is no scumtell.

Look 1 out of a possible 4 townies died the first night.

A townie could die by a scum night kill of a quack protection.

We know that 1 guy died this night. We also already know that Dral tried to protect him.

I didn't protect him but someone else

. The possibilities are still big, but if we collect data we could find out how the puzzle works.

@Dral: Don't suicide but avoid night choices from now. We need to lynch scum, quacks can stay alive without problem.

Can you retype this, as it seems like a lot of random thoughts strung together, unfinished and unintelligible. Bolded specifics.

[curiouskarmadog]

edit: he (or she?) is saying that they did not protect Fern, that Hjallti
protected someone else.

[Mert]

Gah, underneat-quoting...

Vote: curiouskarmadog

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[Mert]

EBWOP: *underneath

[Battle Mage]

avoid night choices? are you frigging serious!?
Our best chance at finding the scum is to use the confirmed quacks to target people. A quack is like a Vig-Cop combo.

Unvote, Vote: Hjallti

@Mert-there is nothing wrong with that style of quoting. Its what all the cool kids are doing.

Partly OMGUS

FoS:theopor_COD

Of course I have been planning, I want to win the game. But that is no scumtell.

Look 1 out of a possible 4 townies died the first night.

A townie could die by a scum night kill of a quack protection.

We know that 1 guy died this night. We also already know that Dral tried to protect him. I didn't protect him but someone else. The possibilities are still big, but if we collect data we could find out how the puzzle works.

@Dral: Don't suicide but avoid night choices from now. We need to lynch scum, quacks can stay alive without problem.

[theopor_COD]

Dral is by no means clear . . . everyone realises that right?

[Dral]

avoid night choices? are you frigging serious!?
Our best chance at finding the scum is to use the confirmed quacks to target people. A quack is like a Vig-Cop combo.

Not exactly. I could end up killing any real doctor. Plus, if someone lives, they aren't 100% scum (they could have been protected). I guess with some coordination we could use it as a second lynch. Like give me a target and tell everyone else not to target them. But probably way too difficult to get everyone to agree to that.

[Dral]

Should anyone else who protected Fernando last night claim?

For pure selfish reasons (so I know if I am a quack), I would like people to tell if they did. But, I have no idea what the best strategy is.

[Aimee]

Vote Count

Battle Mage - 2 (JordanA24, Indy)
Hjallti - 2 (theopor_COD, Battle Mage)

curiouskarmadog - 1 (Mert)
Mert - 1 (Dral)
Indy - 1 (curiouskarmadog)
JDodge - 1(AmeliaLi)
Dral - 1 (JDodge)

Not Voting - 2 (ControlledBurn, Hjallti)

6 to lynch.

[Hjallti]

do I still need to fill in the blanks in the post for curiouskarmadog or was the clarification clear enough. (And yes I meant I protected somelse that the late FeRnAnDo)

First of all a quack can't be used as a Vig since a quack can't kill mafia (by wrong protection), so if someone has reason to believe he is quack (s)he should not protect someone that night.

In fact I find it hard to believe experienced Battle Mage missed that point:

vote: Battle Mage

It sure is scummy to try to get rid of a discussion of what might be a winning strategy for town. (Note that my reasons are not as OMGUS as the vote seems!)
As I see it, we should mass claim on the second or third day about our night choices. Probably we could filter out the wrong information by scum and find the target. And if the info fits together sum might have claimed very late (when they could see what to do) and thus even that might be info.

Dral is not freed of any suspicous. It is possible his night choice caused the death of FeRnAnDo without him having to be a quack.

[JordanA24]

Hjallti, it isn't a question of experience, if BM hasn't played in a Quack game, he is just as likely to make that mistake as less experienced players.

[Mert]

I agree, a mass claim of choices might be good in a few days but I don't really want to do it now. What I

would

consider today (though I'd want some discussion from everyone on the merits first) would be people just claiming whether they protected or didn't protect but not claiming their targets yet. Thoughts?

[Battle Mage]

Thats a poorly concealed OMGUS vote right there!
A Quack IS a Vig, because he kills at night. Obviously there are some restrictions, hence i said he was 'LIKE A VIG'. This is also why a Quack acts partially as a Cop, because if you target someone and they dont die and nobody else targetted them, you know they are scum.

Again i will pick you up on the following misleading comment:

It sure is scummy to try to get rid of a discussion of what might be a winning strategy for town.

Please do tell me, how i said that discussion was bad. If you can, i will contribute in lynching myself.

I disagree about claiming on the 3rd day. By that time we may have lost some people. If we dont get specific reveals on roles, we need to get as much as we can while people are alive. I was thinking about a mass-claim today.

oh and i DO agree about Dral. If anything it does look a tad scummy to use a death as an alibi for you being Quack.

BM
(Note that my reasons are not as OMGUS as the vote seems!)
As I see it, we should mass claim on the second or third day about our night choices. Probably we could filter out the wrong information by scum and find the target. And if the info fits together sum might have claimed very late (when they could see what to do) and thus even that might be info.

Dral is not freed of any suspicous. It is possible his night choice caused the death of FeRnAnDo without him having to be a quack.[/quote]

[JordanA24]

I protected successfully last night.

[Battle Mage]

I agree, a mass claim of choices might be good in a few days but I don't really want to do it now. What I

would

consider today (though I'd want some discussion from everyone on the merits first) would be people just claiming whether they protected or didn't protect but not claiming their targets yet. Thoughts?

i'd like to think that everybody made use of the protect option. We need to make use of the information available to us.
Obviously i protected somebody last night, and they are still alive.

BM

[JordanA24]

First Quack game...so not sure what will be helpful for the town when it comes to info. off the top...Claiming: Doctor..however, I did nothing in the night, because I was afraid of my possible Quackness killing someone.

also when the Mod posts deaths, is they anyway to disinguish between a Quack death and a mafia hit?

[Aimee]

also when the Mod posts deaths, is they anyway to disinguish between a Quack death and a mafia hit?

No. The killer, or killers, of a target will remain ambigious.