Mini 1636: Mafialand Mayhem! - [Game Over]

[MonkeyMan576]

Now CKD is trying to bully Katie into lynching town.

I hope during Day 3 we get to lynch CKD regardless.

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Aww, I'm not MonkeyMan's preferred lynch anymore. Shouldn't you unvote me, then?

[MonkeyMan576]

No, you're still my preferred lynch for day 2.

[Reticent]

you accuse me of not reading?
i was scumreading monkey
then i saw the wagons on him as really bad
so bad i didnt want to be on them

when no one can bring a case
for ~400 posts
i dont want to be anywhere near that wagon

Except apparently you could have brought a case???

But held out for some reason???

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@Monkey Well, at least you've stopped picking on absentee Wake. That was low. He couldn't even defend himself.

[droog]

Being defensive and emotional is indicative of scum, because scum are more worried about their own survival because there are fewer of them than town. Town worry about scum hunting over survival.

Also, saying someone is probtown this early in the game sounds like someone trying to whiteknight their scum partner.

cereal box facts are more accurate.
hinting scum motive without saying it straight
or pompous mafia theories that mean nothing
are scummy
so youre scummy

Being defensive and emotional is indicative of scum

Yeah because his argument was really really bad. I don't care if every single player said I wasn't being clear. I was perfecly clear. I said "being defensive and emotional is indicative of scum." I don't know how to get any more clear than that. It's like if I said your pacman avatar is blue, and you say, "no it's not it's yellow.", and then I say, "but everyone else says it's blue." That doesn't make the avatar any less yellow.

pacman is not saying your argument makes 0 sense
he says either it doesnt make sense or youre communicating poorly
if youre town, stop, collaborate, and listen
explain what you meant in the first place again

[droog]

@Monkey Well, at least you've stopped picking on absentee Wake. That was low. He couldn't even defend himself.

????????
is someone protceted
because theyre flaking out???

do you know what lurking is

[Reticent]

Oh was that it?

My sincerest apologies, then, carry on.

[droog]

Spoiler:

Vote: Wake88

His endday play was pretty suspicious, specifically the way he relied on other people's explanation of cases rather than doing his own research.

Wake, here is the specific behavior I am talking about, an overreliance on other players opinions and information.

I've got a lot to read up on.

Anything noteworthy?

I will have time during the first half of tomorrow.

I have limited time.

Do we have anything pertinent as of yet? Very brief summaries of the latest highlights would suffice. Not reading 25 pages of Day 1 speculation.

So, why vote Lapsa?

And? I've got a life outside of Mafia, so pardon if I ask a handful of questions to help me catch up. And what's wrong with 637?

I want to know what your problem is with asking questions to get caught up to speed instead of getting bogged down by sloughing through muck. Don't know about you, but time is precious, so whining about me asking if anything important happened yet isn't wrong at all. You know better. If that's what you think passes for an excuse to vote me, you are sorely mistaken, and I will rip you apart over it until you acknowledge your reasoning here is crud.

My problem is that it's lazy and anti-town. What if the people you are asking for help with are scum?

And? I've got a life outside of Mafia, so pardon if I ask a handful of questions to help me catch up. And what's wrong with 637?

I want to know what your problem is with asking questions to get caught up to speed instead of getting bogged down by sloughing through muck. Don't know about you, but time is precious, so whining about me asking if anything important happened yet isn't wrong at all. You know better. If that's what you think passes for an excuse to vote me, you are sorely mistaken, and I will rip you apart over it until you acknowledge your reasoning here is crud.

My problem is that it's lazy and anti-town. What if the people you are asking for help with are scum?

If I had all the time in the world then yes it'd be lazy. I do not, and I don't think it's too much to ask the other twelve players to give a brief summary. If anything's lazy, it's refusing to even provide a sentence or two i response when you have more time than the person asking. BS on it being anti-Town, BS on it being scummy, and BS on it being lazy. I'm not asking everyone to provide walls of text doing my own work. I'm asking the other players (not all, but at least one) to help me catch up with a sentence or two. What's so difficult about it? Are you trying to fabricate reasons to cast suspicion on me? I think the route you're taking is horrible if you're Town, because if you're Town we are a team, and we help each other out if we are able. There's a chance that one of the people providing a response is Scum, but hey, that's the risk you take in a game of Mafia. People don't suddenly stop asking others for reads because, *gasp*, the person being asked could be Scum. I am not liking this new direction from you, and am now more eager than ever to question the motives behind your actions.

Wow, you don't like a direction where you're being scumread, that's a surprise.

@ret

which looks scummier
monkey for switching to wake at random
or |||| saying monkey was picking on wake
when monkey did develop a case on wake for lurking

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@droog The dude said he can no longer play anymore, and explained why. That is null, not scummy. And really decent and thoughtful and considerate, to boot.

Now picking on and trying to start a wagon on a player who will not be able to defend himself is scummy. I thought you knew that, Druggie.

((also side track
i appreciate a player who knows when to sub out
thanks wake))

I should have known townish behavior from you was too good to last.

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@droog Wait wait, so was Monkey's vote "random" or did he "develop a case"? It can't be both.

[llll]

@droog And why was it that you never voted for Wake even though Wake, according to you, was "flaking out"?

I mean, if I am scummy for defending allegedly scummy Wake, and scummy enough to vote for, why not vote for scummy Wake at the beginning of the day? Or did you realize that was a shit wagon and your mate ScumkyMan was not going to get anywhere with it? Then why bash Wake now if not out of desperation at the impending demise of your bud Monkey?

[Reticent]

Spoiler:

Vote: Wake88

His endday play was pretty suspicious, specifically the way he relied on other people's explanation of cases rather than doing his own research.

Wake, here is the specific behavior I am talking about, an overreliance on other players opinions and information.

I've got a lot to read up on.

Anything noteworthy?

I will have time during the first half of tomorrow.

I have limited time.

Do we have anything pertinent as of yet? Very brief summaries of the latest highlights would suffice. Not reading 25 pages of Day 1 speculation.

So, why vote Lapsa?

And? I've got a life outside of Mafia, so pardon if I ask a handful of questions to help me catch up. And what's wrong with 637?

I want to know what your problem is with asking questions to get caught up to speed instead of getting bogged down by sloughing through muck. Don't know about you, but time is precious, so whining about me asking if anything important happened yet isn't wrong at all. You know better. If that's what you think passes for an excuse to vote me, you are sorely mistaken, and I will rip you apart over it until you acknowledge your reasoning here is crud.

My problem is that it's lazy and anti-town. What if the people you are asking for help with are scum?

And? I've got a life outside of Mafia, so pardon if I ask a handful of questions to help me catch up. And what's wrong with 637?

I want to know what your problem is with asking questions to get caught up to speed instead of getting bogged down by sloughing through muck. Don't know about you, but time is precious, so whining about me asking if anything important happened yet isn't wrong at all. You know better. If that's what you think passes for an excuse to vote me, you are sorely mistaken, and I will rip you apart over it until you acknowledge your reasoning here is crud.

My problem is that it's lazy and anti-town. What if the people you are asking for help with are scum?

If I had all the time in the world then yes it'd be lazy. I do not, and I don't think it's too much to ask the other twelve players to give a brief summary. If anything's lazy, it's refusing to even provide a sentence or two i response when you have more time than the person asking. BS on it being anti-Town, BS on it being scummy, and BS on it being lazy. I'm not asking everyone to provide walls of text doing my own work. I'm asking the other players (not all, but at least one) to help me catch up with a sentence or two. What's so difficult about it? Are you trying to fabricate reasons to cast suspicion on me? I think the route you're taking is horrible if you're Town, because if you're Town we are a team, and we help each other out if we are able. There's a chance that one of the people providing a response is Scum, but hey, that's the risk you take in a game of Mafia. People don't suddenly stop asking others for reads because, *gasp*, the person being asked could be Scum. I am not liking this new direction from you, and am now more eager than ever to question the motives behind your actions.

Wow, you don't like a direction where you're being scumread, that's a surprise.

@ret

which looks scummier
monkey for switching to wake at random
or |||| saying monkey was picking on wake
when monkey did develop a case on wake for lurking

That "case" looks pretty scummy to me, to be honest.

Latching onto an inactive player (read: lynchbait), scumreading them for their activity level, and asking ridiculous questions like, "What if the people you're asking for help with are scum?" (hey, newsflash, if you ask scum to summarize something for you and they lie about it, then we'll call them on it and lynch them) is pretty bad.

[droog]

@droog Wait wait, so was Monkey's vote "random" or did he "develop a case"? It can't be both.

The vote came our of left field
But he developed it with a case
No contradiction

[droog]

@droog And why was it that you never voted for Wake even though Wake, according to you, was "flaking out"?

I mean, if I am scummy for defending allegedly scummy Wake, and scummy enough to vote for, why not vote for scummy Wake at the beginning of the day? Or did you realize that was a shit wagon and your mate ScumkyMan was not going to get anywhere with it? Then why bash Wake now if not out of desperation at the impending demise of your bud Monkey?

show me bashing wake
show me calling him scummy

[droog]

Spoiler:

Vote: Wake88

His endday play was pretty suspicious, specifically the way he relied on other people's explanation of cases rather than doing his own research.

Wake, here is the specific behavior I am talking about, an overreliance on other players opinions and information.

I've got a lot to read up on.

Anything noteworthy?

I will have time during the first half of tomorrow.

I have limited time.

Do we have anything pertinent as of yet? Very brief summaries of the latest highlights would suffice. Not reading 25 pages of Day 1 speculation.

So, why vote Lapsa?

And? I've got a life outside of Mafia, so pardon if I ask a handful of questions to help me catch up. And what's wrong with 637?

I want to know what your problem is with asking questions to get caught up to speed instead of getting bogged down by sloughing through muck. Don't know about you, but time is precious, so whining about me asking if anything important happened yet isn't wrong at all. You know better. If that's what you think passes for an excuse to vote me, you are sorely mistaken, and I will rip you apart over it until you acknowledge your reasoning here is crud.

My problem is that it's lazy and anti-town. What if the people you are asking for help with are scum?

And? I've got a life outside of Mafia, so pardon if I ask a handful of questions to help me catch up. And what's wrong with 637?

I want to know what your problem is with asking questions to get caught up to speed instead of getting bogged down by sloughing through muck. Don't know about you, but time is precious, so whining about me asking if anything important happened yet isn't wrong at all. You know better. If that's what you think passes for an excuse to vote me, you are sorely mistaken, and I will rip you apart over it until you acknowledge your reasoning here is crud.

My problem is that it's lazy and anti-town. What if the people you are asking for help with are scum?

If I had all the time in the world then yes it'd be lazy. I do not, and I don't think it's too much to ask the other twelve players to give a brief summary. If anything's lazy, it's refusing to even provide a sentence or two i response when you have more time than the person asking. BS on it being anti-Town, BS on it being scummy, and BS on it being lazy. I'm not asking everyone to provide walls of text doing my own work. I'm asking the other players (not all, but at least one) to help me catch up with a sentence or two. What's so difficult about it? Are you trying to fabricate reasons to cast suspicion on me? I think the route you're taking is horrible if you're Town, because if you're Town we are a team, and we help each other out if we are able. There's a chance that one of the people providing a response is Scum, but hey, that's the risk you take in a game of Mafia. People don't suddenly stop asking others for reads because, *gasp*, the person being asked could be Scum. I am not liking this new direction from you, and am now more eager than ever to question the motives behind your actions.

Wow, you don't like a direction where you're being scumread, that's a surprise.

@ret

which looks scummier
monkey for switching to wake at random
or |||| saying monkey was picking on wake
when monkey did develop a case on wake for lurking

That "case" looks pretty scummy to me, to be honest.

Latching onto an inactive player (read: lynchbait), scumreading them for their activity level, and asking ridiculous questions like, "What if the people you're asking for help with are scum?" (hey, newsflash, if you ask scum to summarize something for you and they lie about it, then we'll call them on it and lynch them) is pretty bad.

@ret: I agree
But \||| throwing a fit over it
Is scummy too

And monkey and ||||
can't voth be scummy
For opposite opinions

[Reticent]

I agree - which is why I don't think |||| "throwing a fit over" a scummy case is particularly scummy.

What would an appropriate level of incredulity on ||||'s part have looked like?

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@droog I reread the thread more closely - yeah, you didn't really do any Wake bashing after Wake left earlier in the day, so apologies for the misrep.

Right now, though, you're still either implying Wake was scummy, or that trying to form a wagon on an absentee Wake is not scummy. Why are you doing this? Oh that's right I said,

@Monkey Well, at least you've stopped picking on absentee Wake. That was low. He couldn't even defend himself.

And I guess you need

something

to jump on to try to divert your bud Monkey's wagon. It's still scummy on your part, imo, but nowhere to the extent I believed earlier, when I didn't read your earlier posts Today as carefully as I should have. (Have you considered purchasing a shift key? It would enhance readability.)

[MonkeyMan576]

If droog and I were really scum partners do you think he'd be defending me this hard? As said before, I am lynchbait so if I get lynched and flip scum that puts him next in line. Him sticking his neck out for me is as townish as it gets.

[droog]

I don't agree with monkey's cad
But I don't suspect it

Why is lynching lurkers scummy

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Lynching lurkers is not scummy.
Bandwagoning players for being lurky after they have asked to be replaced out is scummy. Wait for a replacement, don't wagon a defenseless player. But Monkey did this.

[Wake1]

I'll reprise this slot if you'll have me, Riddleton and co.

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@Mod Do we get another deadline extension if Wake is back?

[llll]

Not quite as busty anymore, eh Wake?

[Wake1]

Still busy, but not so exhausted. Research candidiasis.

Not planning to read through the past posts, so will start from this point on.