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Robot Prisoner's Dilemma - Mccoyn Wins - Round 2 in Limbo

Post Post #0 (isolation #0) » Sun Jul 01, 2007 10:14 am

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It's 2548, and technology has advanced for even the lowest members of society. Nowadays, everyone commits their crime by radio-controlled robot breakins.

Of course, your robot and its partner have now been caught by the robopolice, and now we see who will stay faithful...

The Rules


Your robot will either choose "Friend" or "Foe," as will another player's partner robot.

Both "Friend": Both get +1 point
Both "Foe": No change
One "Friend" and One "Foe": Friend gets -3, Foe gets +2

Here's the catch to the game:
you do not make an individual choice for each round.
Rather, you will give me a set of instructions for how to make your choice each round. It can be brute force, such as "Friend, Foe, Foe, Friend, Foe...", or general, such as "First choose 'friend', then always choose whatever the other player chose in the first round." Anything works, as long as it gives exactly one choice each round.

Each player will be paired off against each other player 10 times. These matches will be isolated from the other matches, so programmings such as "If the other guy scored more than 5 points from his match with Player X, then choose 'foe'" are not legitimate.

To be /in, post /in and PM me your programming.

You may name your bot if you so desire.

Also, this should be a fairly quick game, so given adequate participation, more of these can be played.
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Post Post #5 (isolation #1) » Sun Jul 01, 2007 1:26 pm

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Note: The numbers have been changed from "+1/-2" for Friend/Foe to "+2/-3", so that there is an incentive to defect. If this changes any of the submitted programs (which I doubt), you may resubmit.

Also, two newest players, PM me your programs.
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Post Post #11 (isolation #2) » Sun Jul 01, 2007 6:49 pm

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YogurtBandit wrote:Hmm, So Do we send the commands for all 10 rounds?
Commands for all 10 rounds is acceptable, as is some kind of algorythm for how your robot decides to act each round (e.g., "if I gained points in the previous round, choose 'foe'" the next round).
mccoyn wrote:Is the winner the person who wins the most matchups, or the person with the most total points.
Total points; otherwise everyone would choose Foe every time.
Mokina wrote:Also... are you planning on publishing each of our robots' procedures (at the end)?
Yep, unless I hear a strong objection.
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Post Post #36 (isolation #3) » Thu Jul 05, 2007 10:32 am

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Things will be resolved tomorrow night; any robots not submitted by then will not participate.
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Post Post #41 (isolation #4) » Fri Jul 06, 2007 8:04 pm

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The Competitors!


If you actually expected me to dig through the thread to find your Robot Name, you get laughed at. People who included it in their PM have been duly cited.
Mokinabot, by Mokina wrote:IF it's the last round choose "foe." Always.

ELSEIF it is past the 3rd round and the opponent has never yet chosen "friend", consider them an eternal foe.

ELSEIF it is past the 3rd round and the opponent shows an alternating pattern starting with "Friend," always defect.

ELSEIF it is past the 3rd round and the opponent shows an alternating pattern starting with "Foe," always defect.

ELSE choose "friend"
Blackberry wrote:* FIRST ROUND: ALWAYS FRIEND

* AFTER FIRST ROUND:

--> IF OPPONENT'S PREVIOUS CHOICE WAS FRIEND, THEN CHOOSE FRIEND

--> IF OPPONENT'S PREVIOUS CHOICE WAS FOE, THEN CHOOSE FOE

* LAST ROUND: ALWAYS FOE
Brutal Assassin wrote:Foe all 10 times.
Crub wrote:My robot will always choose Foe.
flubbot, by Khelvaster wrote:Choose foe unless the last three inputs from my opponent were friend.
Sudo_Nym wrote:Rounds 1 and 2, I defect. For rounds after 3, I do what my opponent did the last round.
JDodge wrote:Going foe all the way.
xyzzy wrote:1: Defect
2: Store a value of 0 for X
3: If Opponent defects, subtract 1 from X
4: If Opponent cooperates, add 1 to X
5: If X>0, cooperate
6: If X<0, defect
7: If X=0, return to line 1
8: Return to line 3
mccoyn wrote:Round 1: Always friend
Round 2-6: If both players picked friend last round choose friend again. Otherwise, choose foe.
Round 7-10: Always foe
Fritzler wrote:so, foe 24/7
Empath, by Guardian wrote:Each round, start out with Friend.
Then, until the last choice, do whatever the opponent did last round.

Then, the last choice, defect.
SamBot, by Samruc wrote:choose 'foe', unless opponent has chosen 'friend' for both of the last two rounds.
The Crimson King, by PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:Cooperate,
then Choose the same thing the other person chose last time.
Then on the Last one defect
Albert B. Rampage wrote:Start with friend

Continue with friend if opponent chose friend the last turn

If at any point opponent chooses foe, proceed with foe all the way until the 9th time, then my robot will choose friend, then foe the turn right after.

Always choose foe on the 10th
...stay tuned; results posted shortly!
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Post Post #42 (isolation #5) » Fri Jul 06, 2007 9:41 pm

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The BBC-Code-A-Riffic-Showdown!

If anybody catches any mistakes, post them.

Mokinabot, by Mokina

vs. Mokinabot (Mokina):
+0
vs. Blackberry:
+9
vs. Brutal Assassin:
-9
vs. crub:
-9
vs. flubbot (Khelvaster):
-7
vs. SudoNym:
+3
vs. JDodge:
-9
vs. xyzzy:
+7
vs. mccoyn:
-3
vs. Fritzler:
-9
vs. Empath (Guardian):
+9
vs. SamBot (Samruc):
+3
vs. The Crimson King (Pooky):
+9
vs. Albert B. Rampage:
+9
Total: +3


Blackberry

vs. Mokinabot (Mokina):
+9
vs. Blackberry:
+0
vs. Brutal Assassin:
-3
vs. crub:
-3
vs. flubbot (Khelvaster):
-3
vs. SudoNym:
-3
vs. JDodge:
-3
vs. xyzzy:
-5
vs. mccoyn:
+3
vs. Fritzler:
-3
vs. Empath (Guardian):
+9
vs. SamBot (Samruc):
-3
vs. The Crimson King (Pooky):
+9
vs. Albert B. Rampage:
+9
Total: +13


Brutal Assassin

vs. Mokinabot (Mokina):
+6
vs. Blackberry:
+2
vs. Brutal Assassin:
+0
vs. crub:
+0
vs. flubbot (Khelvaster):
+0
vs. SudoNym:
+0
vs. JDodge:
+0
vs. xyzzy:
+0
vs. mccoyn:
+2
vs. Fritzler:
+0
vs. Empath (Guardian):
+2
vs. SamBot (Samruc):
+0
vs. The Crimson King (Pooky):
+2
vs. Albert B. Rampage:
+4
Total: +18


crub

vs. Mokinabot (Mokina):
+6
vs. Blackberry:
+2
vs. Brutal Assassin:
+0
vs. crub:
+0
vs. flubbot (Khelvaster):
+0
vs. SudoNym:
+0
vs. JDodge:
+0
vs. xyzzy:
+0
vs. mccoyn:
+2
vs. Fritzler:
+0
vs. Empath (Guardian):
+2
vs. SamBot (Samruc):
+0
vs. The Crimson King (Pooky):
+2
vs. Albert B. Rampage:
+4
Total: +18


Flubbot (Khelvaster)

vs. Mokinabot (Mokina):
+3
vs. Blackberry:
+2
vs. Brutal Assassin:
+0
vs. crub:
+0
vs. flubbot (Khelvaster):
+0
vs. SudoNym:
+0
vs. JDodge:
+0
vs. xyzzy:
+0
vs. mccoyn:
+2
vs. Fritzler:
+0
vs. Empath (Guardian):
+2
vs. SamBot (Samruc):
+0
vs. The Crimson King (Pooky):
+2
vs. Albert B. Rampage:
+4
Total: +15


SudoNym

vs. Mokinabot (Mokina):
+8
vs. Blackberry:
+2
vs. Brutal Assassin:
+0
vs. crub:
+0
vs. flubbot (Khelvaster):
+0
vs. SudoNym:
+0
vs. JDodge:
+0
vs. xyzzy:
+0
vs. mccoyn:
+2
vs. Fritzler:
+0
vs. Empath (Guardian):
+2
vs. SamBot (Samruc):
+0
vs. The Crimson King (Pooky):
+2
vs. Albert B. Rampage:
+4
Total: +20


JDodge

vs. Mokinabot (Mokina):
+6
vs. Blackberry:
+2
vs. Brutal Assassin:
+0
vs. crub:
+0
vs. flubbot (Khelvaster):
+0
vs. SudoNym:
+0
vs. JDodge:
+0
vs. xyzzy:
+0
vs. mccoyn:
+2
vs. Fritzler:
+0
vs. Empath (Guardian):
+2
vs. SamBot (Samruc):
+0
vs. The Crimson King (Pooky):
+2
vs. Albert B. Rampage:
+4
Total: +18


xyzzy

vs. Mokinabot (Mokina):
+7
vs. Blackberry:
-5
vs. Brutal Assassin:
+0
vs. crub:
+0
vs. flubbot (Khelvaster):
+0
vs. SudoNym:
+0
vs. JDodge:
+0
vs. xyzzy:
+0
vs. mccoyn:
-1
vs. Fritzler:
+0
vs. Empath (Guardian):
-5
vs. SamBot (Samruc):
+0
vs. The Crimson King (Pooky):
-5
vs. Albert B. Rampage:
+1
Total: -8


mccoyn

vs. Mokinabot (Mokina):
+14
vs. Blackberry:
+8
vs. Brutal Assassin:
-3
vs. crub:
-3
vs. flubbot (Khelvaster):
-3
vs. SudoNym:
-3
vs. JDodge:
-3
vs. xyzzy:
-1
vs. mccoyn:
+0
vs. Fritzler:
-3
vs. Empath (Guardian):
+8
vs. SamBot (Samruc):
-3
vs. The Crimson King (Pooky):
+8
vs. Albert B. Rampage:
+10
Total: +28


Fritzler

vs. Mokinabot (Mokina):
+6
vs. Blackberry:
+2
vs. Brutal Assassin:
+0
vs. crub:
+0
vs. flubbot (Khelvaster):
+0
vs. SudoNym:
+0
vs. JDodge:
+0
vs. xyzzy:
+0
vs. mccoyn:
+2
vs. Fritzler:
+0
vs. Empath (Guardian):
+2
vs. SamBot (Samruc):
+0
vs. The Crimson King (Pooky):
+2
vs. Albert B. Rampage:
+4
Total: +18


Empath (Guardian)

vs. Mokinabot (Mokina):
+9
vs. Blackberry:
+9
vs. Brutal Assassin:
-3
vs. crub:
-3
vs. flubbot (Khelvaster):
-3
vs. SudoNym:
-3
vs. JDodge:
-3
vs. xyzzy:
-5
vs. mccoyn:
+3
vs. Fritzler:
-3
vs. Empath (Guardian):
+0
vs. SamBot (Samruc):
-3
vs. The Crimson King (Pooky):
+0
vs. Albert B. Rampage:
+9
Total: +13


SamBot (Samruc)

vs. Mokinabot (Mokina):
+8
vs. Blackberry:
+2
vs. Brutal Assassin:
+0
vs. crub:
+0
vs. flubbot (Khelvaster):
+0
vs. SudoNym:
+0
vs. JDodge:
+0
vs. xyzzy:
+0
vs. mccoyn:
+2
vs. Fritzler:
+0
vs. Empath (Guardian):
+2
vs. SamBot (Samruc):
+0
vs. The Crimson King (Pooky):
+2
vs. Albert B. Rampage:
+4
Total: +20


The Crimson King (PookyTheMagicalBear)

vs. Mokinabot (Mokina):
+9
vs. Blackberry:
+9
vs. Brutal Assassin:
-3
vs. crub:
-3
vs. flubbot (Khelvaster):
-3
vs. SudoNym:
-3
vs. JDodge:
-3
vs. xyzzy:
-5
vs. mccoyn:
+3
vs. Fritzler:
-3
vs. Empath (Guardian):
+9
vs. SamBot (Samruc):
-3
vs. The Crimson King (Pooky):
+0
vs. Albert B. Rampage:
+9
Total: +13


Albert B. Rampage

vs. Mokinabot (Mokina):
+9
vs. Blackberry:
+9
vs. Brutal Assassin:
-6
vs. crub:
-6
vs. flubbot (Khelvaster):
-6
vs. SudoNym:
-6
vs. JDodge:
-6
vs. xyzzy:
-4
vs. mccoyn:
+0
vs. Fritzler:
-6
vs. Empath (Guardian):
+9
vs. SamBot (Samruc):
-6
vs. The Crimson King (Pooky):
+9
vs. Albert B. Rampage:
+0
Total: -10
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Post Post #43 (isolation #6) » Fri Jul 06, 2007 10:05 pm

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The Results!


14th: Albert B. Rampage, with -10





13th: Xyzzy, with -8





12th: Mokina and her MokinaBot, with +3





Tie for 9th: Blackberry, Guardian (and his Empath), and PookyTheMagicalBear (and his Crimson King), with +13





8th: Khelvaster and his flubbot, with +15





Tie for 4th: Brutal Assassin, Crub, Fritzler, and JDodge with +18





Tie for 2nd: Sudo_nym and Samruc (and his Sambot), with +20





1st: mccoyn, with +28!


Congratulations to Mccoyn, and to Sudo_nym and Samruc as runners up!
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Post Post #45 (isolation #7) » Fri Jul 06, 2007 10:31 pm

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Oh man. This game is a BITCH to resolve. 14x14x10 games to figure out and calculate... ugh.

Anyways, I was happy to see the All-Foe bots lose; more than one person claimed that they had broken the game by submitting that bot.

Samruc and Sudonym had practically the same bot, which played quite interestingly - it was very, very cautious; it never lost points, but if the opponent trusted it for long enough, it scored big. Nice design, but both could have been improved by a "Always Foe on the last round" clause.

Mccoyn's bot was a very nice idea. It accepted the minimal losses from the All-Foe designs in exchange for repeated, large scoring against the trusting bots. Then, it played the inevitable backstab at six - cashing out on the extra points before the opponent defects anyways for the tenth round. Another important point of this bot was a subtle difference in wording - the bot only cooperated if
both
players chose friend on the previous round. This allowed the bot to sidestep pitfalls that Blackberry, Guardian, and Pooky fell into against Xyzzy's bot - In the setups, the two would alternate between Foe/Friend and Friend/Foe such that they would both lose a significant amount of point. With Mccoyn's bot, though, that didn't happen - the cycle would be cut off once Mccoyn dinged xyzzy for two of the points back.

For the next round, I guess I'll mod it again. Any suggestions for changes in point value, now that we've had a game under our belt? Any requests for rules mutations? Let me know.

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Post Post #60 (isolation #8) » Sat Jul 07, 2007 5:09 pm

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Alright, I'm going to
start taking submissions
for the next round. I'll resolve choices sometime next weekend, so try and get bots in by Friday. If, by chance, 15 bots are submitted, I'm just going to close signups right there because there's no way I can deal with resolving more than that. I'll try and keep you updated on how many are in so you know if you have to hurry up and submit.
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Post Post #74 (isolation #9) » Sun Jul 08, 2007 4:27 pm

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-7 choices in so far.

-I'm going to go ahead and
disallow randomness
. Partially because it's a bit against the spirit of the game, and partially because I really don't want to roll that many dice.

-As for the spreadsheet thing, don't worry about it - I'm not going to bother those who don't know spreadsheets algorithms to learn 'em. Plus, I'm currently attempting to become fluent in Java, so I may try and write a Java resolution for this game.
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Post Post #77 (isolation #10) » Tue Jul 10, 2007 5:53 pm

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Mccoyn - if it gets to the point where a few strategies are dominating to the point where it's killing the game, I'll reconsider, but I wouldn't say we're there yet.

As it stands, if you submitted a robot that includes randomness, you may resubmit. Otherwise, if it comes time to resolve, I will conduct the required die roll exactly once and pretend it came up that way every time.
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Post Post #82 (isolation #11) » Sat Jul 14, 2007 2:20 pm

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No, typing /ins is not neccesary.

Tonight. Usual "maybe" disclaimers apply.
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Post Post #84 (isolation #12) » Sun Jul 15, 2007 10:33 pm

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Let's meet the contenders!
Mokina wrote:
In round one, choose "friend" no matter what.

If my partner betrayed me last round, choose "foe"
If my partner cooperated last round, choose "friend"

In round five, choose "friend" no matter what.

In round ten, choose "foe" no matter what.
Xdaamno wrote:1: Friend
2-8: If the opponent has used foe even once in the entire game, Foe. Otherwise, friend.
9-10: Foe
JDodge wrote:Round 1, pick foe; if last opponent foe, pick foe; if last opponent friend, pick friend
xyzzy, who Pie is now out to personally kill wrote:1. Store a value of {} (Empty set) for sequence C
2. Pick a random boolean value and store it at D
3. If D=0 Defect
4. Else Cooperate
5. If opponent Cooperates, insert the last value in C+1 at the end of sequence C.
6. Else insert the last value in C-1 at the end of sequence C.
7. Define the following subroutine AIMEEGO

1.Arrange the terms of a sequence in order
2.For every nth term starting at 2, subtract the n-1'th term from the nth term and place that term's absolute value below the n-1'th term.
3.Continue doing this for each successive row until there is only a single row with only one term.
4.Insert the left-most terms into the following formula: T1 + T2*X + T3*X*(X-1)/2! + T4*X*(X-1)*(X-2)/3! ...
5.Call the resulting function of X Q(X)

8. Evaluate Q(X) for the round number which just finished-1 and for the next round's number-1
9. If the first value is greater than the second number, defect.
10. If the previous round's value is less than the next round's number, defect.
11. If the opponent appears to be attempting a “tit-for-tat” strategy (does whatever Aimeebot did last round) change the last word of line 10 to cooperate, permanently.
12: If the opponent appears to be defecting every time, delete line 11 and change the last word of line 10 to defect. If this pattern changes, reinsert line 11.
13. If after 5 or more turns no row in the AIMEEGO subroutine's algorithm before the last row (the row with only one term) has all terms as the same value, defect every time.
14. Go to line 5.
Mechanized Evil, by CoolBot wrote:All Foe.
AwesomeBot, by mccoyn wrote:Round 1: Always friend
Round 2 - 7: If opponent picked friend last round and has only picked foe one or zero times before, pick friend.
Round 8 - 10: Always foe
Nom de Plume, by Sudo_Nym wrote:Round 1, friend
Last round, foe
Every other round, do what opponent did last round.
Pie_is_goood, by Guardian wrote:1: Friend


For X = 2, X<=8{

IF Op1 = Foe, 2-10 = Foe.

ELSE IF Op1 = Friend

DO

Opp #X-1

WHILE Opp has not done 4 Friend in a row


Foe
}

9: Foe
10: Foe
Crubzzt, by Crub wrote:Round 1 always Foe.
Round 2&3 if the opponent chose friend the previous round choose friend otherwise choose Foe.
Round 4-10 always Foe.
Bob, by Shanba wrote:Rounds 1 to 7 alternate Friend and Foe, starting with Foe.

Rounds 8 onwards, always foe
Grek wrote:Round 1: Always foe
Rounds 2-9: If I have 0 or more points for this match so far, do the opposite of what the other robot did last round. If I have a negative amount of points, choose foe.
Round 10: Always foe
Experimentabot, by Brutal Assassin wrote:First 1: Always Friend
2-5: Stay friend unless opponent goes foe, then switch to foe for rest.
6: Always Friend
7-10: Always Foe
Idiot, by Guardian wrote:defect.
defect.
coop.
defect.
defect.
defect.
defect.
defect.
defect.
defect.
Khelvaster wrote:Choose foe until turn 8 unless:
1. Turn 1, Choose friend always
2. The previous round, both me and my opponent chose friend
3. 2 rounds ago I chose friend, and last round I chose foe, and it is past round 3.

Turn 9 and 10, choose foe always.
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Post Post #85 (isolation #13) » Sun Jul 15, 2007 10:44 pm

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Oh My God, it's the results... In a Justice-Table!
Contenders [col] MokinaBot [col] XdaamnoBot [col] JDodgeBot [col] AIMEEBot (xyzzy) [col] Mechanized Evil (Coolbot) [col] AwesomeBot (mccoyn) [col] Nom de Plume (Sudo_Nym) [col] Pie_is_goood (Guardian) [col] Crubzzt (Crub) [col] Bob (Shanba) [col] GrekBot [col] Experimentabot (Brutal Assassin) [col] Idiot (Guardian) [col] KhelvasterBot MokinaBot [col]X[col] [col] [col] [col] [col] [col] [col] [col] [col] [col] [col] [col] [col] XdaamnoBot [col] [col]X[col] [col] [col] [col] [col] [col] [col] [col] [col] [col] [col] [col] JDodgeBot [col] [col] [col]X[col] [col] [col] [col] [col] [col] [col] [col] [col] [col] [col] AIMEEBot [col] [col] [col] [col]X[col] [col] [col] [col] [col] [col] [col] [col] [col] [col] Mechanized Evil (Coolbot) [col] [col] [col] [col] [col]X[col] [col] [col] [col] [col] [col] [col] [col] [col] AwesomeBot (mccoyn) [col] [col] [col] [col] [col] [col]X[col] [col] [col] [col] [col] [col] [col] [col] Nom de Plume (Sudo_Nym) [col] [col] [col] [col] [col] [col] [col]X[col] [col] [col] [col] [col] [col] [col] Pie_is_goood (Guardian) [col] [col] [col] [col] [col] [col] [col] [col]X[col] [col] [col] [col] [col] [col] Crubzzt (Crub) [col] [col] [col] [col] [col] [col] [col] [col] [col]X[col] [col] [col] [col] [col] Bob (Shanba) [col] [col] [col] [col] [col] [col] [col] [col] [col] [col]X[col] [col] [col] [col] GrekBot [col] [col] [col] [col] [col] [col] [col] [col] [col] [col] [col]X[col] [col] [col] Experimentabot (Brutal Assassin) [col] [col] [col] [col] [col] [col] [col] [col] [col] [col] [col] [col]X[col] [col] Idiot (Guardian) [col] [col] [col] [col] [col] [col] [col] [col] [col] [col] [col] [col] [col]X[col] KhelvasterBot [col] [col] [col] [col] [col] [col] [col] [col] [col] [col] [col] [col] [col] [col]X


Meh, I'm burned out figuring out table-BBC. Sorry about the page margins. I'll edit this in slightly more normal hours.
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Post Post #112 (isolation #14) » Sat Jul 21, 2007 9:52 am

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...oh. Thanks, Mccoyn. I had about 3/4 of this done, I was going to post it all at once.

I can try and recalculate with Xyzzy's bot included (I PMed Xyzzy for clarification on his bot, the two lines in question, and everything else such that it was a legitimate bot). Or, we can move and I'll mod again, or if you don't want the wait generated by my slowness, someone else can go.
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