—Mini 1635— Curse of the Werewolves: Game Over

farside22 · Post Post #1000 (ISO) » Fri Jan 16, 2015 1:51 pm

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In post 351, Southern Gothic wrote:I am still waiting on konowa and flames!

cos the prod dodges when THAT IS WHO WE ARE LOOKING AT leave me uninspired.

pine is town for my own reasons.

In post 873, Southern Gothic wrote:
In post 870, Nachomamma8 wrote:
In post 868, Southern Gothic wrote:also we are a tracker and pine went nowhere last night.

flavor name + action flavor, please

food, did I not just claim it, did I not just confirm it

In post 904, Southern Gothic wrote:
In post 897, Albert B. Rampage wrote:they claimed they tracked Pine of all players,

Well I'm out of the loop, why was Pine a bad track?

I would think scum are likely going to use a less suspected team member to actually do the kill in order to avoid detection from trackers, so it seemed like the best candidate for the action would be someone with a chance of being scum but doesn't draw too many scumreads in the thread.

In post 905, Southern Gothic wrote:
In post 902, Nachomamma8 wrote:We know power roles have flavor names thanks to Iecerint and general endorsement of his plan.

The flavor name is Food Tracker. Where's the disconnect here?

I'd like SG to explain why and where the pine scum read came from since the only post from the hydra had pine as town.

Also when first name claiming why was the word food used only?

Andrius · Post Post #1001 (ISO) » Fri Jan 16, 2015 1:56 pm

I don't like SG's full-claim out of nowhere. I really don't. I don't see any town-sided motivation for doing so.
I'm stuck looking quizzically at farside's, but I admit that may just be nothing. Having trouble discerning her motive, but that's not as important (if at all, at present).

Nachomamma8 · Post Post #1002 (ISO) » Fri Jan 16, 2015 1:57 pm

In post 994, farside22 wrote:The issue I note with the claim is tracker.

This meshes well with Iec + Andrius experience, which bodes well for an SG lynch.

Nachomamma8 · Post Post #1003 (ISO) » Fri Jan 16, 2015 1:57 pm

In post 1001, Andrius wrote:I don't like SG's full-claim out of nowhere. I really don't. I don't see any town-sided motivation for doing so.
I'm stuck looking quizzically at farside's, but I admit that may just be nothing. Having trouble discerning her motive, but that's not as important (if at all, at present).

From where I'm sitting, it just kind of looks like all the pieces came crashing together in a pretty fantastic way.

Nachomamma8 · Post Post #1004 (ISO) » Fri Jan 16, 2015 1:58 pm

And farside's claim seems infinitely townier than SG's.

Andrius · Post Post #1005 (ISO) » Fri Jan 16, 2015 1:58 pm

I do not think that one 'no action' track result should clear someone. Its nice to have, but it only takes one scumbag to kill.

Andrius · Post Post #1006 (ISO) » Fri Jan 16, 2015 2:00 pm

In post 1003, Nachomamma8 wrote:
In post 1001, Andrius wrote:I don't like SG's full-claim out of nowhere. I really don't. I don't see any town-sided motivation for doing so.
I'm stuck looking quizzically at farside's, but I admit that may just be nothing. Having trouble discerning her motive, but that's not as important (if at all, at present).

From where I'm sitting, it just kind of looks like all the pieces came crashing together in a pretty fantastic way.

Right. I'm not frothing at the mouth with this one, as I do have a reservation, but that's not as important.
I admit, I let myself get carried away with the WHAT ABOUT A NINJA line of thinking with an early "pine went nowhere he's town" thing being fallacious since there could be a ninja (admittedly more likely if there's a tracker/watcher). Additionally, it takes one to nightkill, so that also clears no one.

Just trying to think and not get carried away.

Nachomamma8 · Post Post #1007 (ISO) » Fri Jan 16, 2015 2:12 pm

I mean I'm trying not to get carried away but I'm floating as we speak :/

Nachomamma8 · Post Post #1008 (ISO) » Fri Jan 16, 2015 2:12 pm

Who do you think I'm not looking at hard enough?

Iecerint · Post Post #1009 (ISO) » Fri Jan 16, 2015 2:18 pm

In post 998, Nachomamma8 wrote:I also hoped he didn't give flavor with action role PMs?
But Iec hasn't said that he didn't get action flavor so no luck there.

My rolename AND my action have independent flavor. They are both "flavorful" (e.g., it's not "Food Cop" with an "Investigate" ability).

Andrius · Post Post #1010 (ISO) » Fri Jan 16, 2015 2:20 pm

In post 1008, Nachomamma8 wrote:Who do you think I'm not looking at hard enough?

We should definitely not rush into this one. I'm not sure, but we need to make sure certain people don't fall under the radar again.
I know I needed to read on Konowaslot, but that's dead now.

Andrius · Post Post #1011 (ISO) » Fri Jan 16, 2015 2:21 pm

In post 1008, Nachomamma8 wrote:Who do you think I'm not looking at hard enough?

Who.
I'm not sure if I'm just picking out a thing rather than a person, but I also need to re-evaluate Titus.

Iecerint · Post Post #1012 (ISO) » Fri Jan 16, 2015 2:21 pm

In post 1004, Nachomamma8 wrote:And farside's claim seems infinitely townier than SG's.

Am I just missing her claim? I can't find it. AFAICT she just claimed concordance (unnecessarily I think, but I assume she has her reasons) with Andy and re: flavor. Is that what you're referring to?

Andrius · Post Post #1013 (ISO) » Fri Jan 16, 2015 2:36 pm

Yes.
I don't like it because we've outed a lot of power, or at least, identified PRs to one degree or another. Cannot protect them all.

But that's more because I don't like it. Town motivation is to help clear up the air and align with the other players. (Though if she hasn't changed her read on me at all, its somewhat odd to align with Iece and I.) Scum motivation would be to blend in, if you will, and one scum PR (or faking a PR) can blend in with a bunch of town PRs. But again, that would mean they would commit to a PR claim.
A lot of things going around.

Iecerint · Post Post #1014 (ISO) » Fri Jan 16, 2015 2:42 pm

Yeah, I am aligned in not being sure about that, especially when I went so far as to direct my question specifically to on the grounds that we not get a million such softclaims. I could see the logic if she DEPARTED from our position, but meh. w/e tho.

I feel pretty OK about lynching SG.

Nachomamma8 · Post Post #1015 (ISO) » Fri Jan 16, 2015 2:45 pm

In post 1009, Iecerint wrote:
In post 998, Nachomamma8 wrote:I also hoped he didn't give flavor with action role PMs?
But Iec hasn't said that he didn't get action flavor so no luck there.

My rolename AND my action have independent flavor. They are both "flavorful" (e.g., it's not "Food Cop" with an "Investigate" ability).

This is helpful.

In post 1010, Andrius wrote:
In post 1008, Nachomamma8 wrote:Who do you think I'm not looking at hard enough?

We should definitely not rush into this one. I'm not sure, but we need to make sure certain people don't fall under the radar again.
I know I needed to read on Konowaslot, but that's dead now.

I don't mind taking my time with the lynch I guess, but my read on mollie has reached critical mass at this point and I don't think there's much coming back from this. Will still give time to delay spending time with you, but.

Konowa-slot is not dead, Konowa slot is now Titus. Let me know what you think when you're done reading through.

In post 1011, Andrius wrote:
In post 1008, Nachomamma8 wrote:Who do you think I'm not looking at hard enough?

Who.
I'm not sure if I'm just picking out a thing rather than a person, but I also need to re-evaluate Titus.

Who is one of my three scumspects.
Unless you think that's a bad thing?

In post 1012, Iecerint wrote:
In post 1004, Nachomamma8 wrote:And farside's claim seems infinitely townier than SG's.

Am I just missing her claim? I can't find it. AFAICT she just claimed concordance (unnecessarily I think, but I assume she has her reasons) with Andy and re: flavor. Is that what you're referring to?

Yeah, and the implications of that.

Nachomamma8 · Post Post #1016 (ISO) » Fri Jan 16, 2015 2:46 pm

I'd be OK with a Victor claim thanks to his response to Iecerint, actually.

Shadowmod · Post Post #1017 (ISO) » Fri Jan 16, 2015 3:03 pm

—VOTE COUNT—

Andrius

(1/6)

— farside22

farside22

(0/6) —

Pine

Albert B. Rampage

(2/6)

— Andrius, VictorDeAngelo

Southern Gothic

(4/6)

— Nachomamma8, Pine, Iecerint, Albert B. Rampage

All is Who

(1/6)

— PeregrineV

Not Voting (3/11): Southern Gothic, All is Who, Titus

With 11 players still alive, 6 votes are required for a lynch, 6 to force no lynch.

Day 2 deadline is (expired on 2015-01-27 18:00:00)

farside22 · Post Post #1018 (ISO) » Fri Jan 16, 2015 4:10 pm

In post 999, Nachomamma8 wrote:Do you still suspect Andy today?

My issue with Andy was the push on four.
Admittedly I don't trust him.
I don't know why he just unvoted abr based on your comment alone.

I do believe SG is scum. Victor would be another based on his votes day 1 and 2. This looks more like his scum game where he says very little.
I'll be voting SG in the end, just getting a few reads from those I'm town reading and figure a few that are not making sense to me like pine and Andy.

Albert B. Rampage · Post Post #1019 (ISO) » Fri Jan 16, 2015 4:13 pm

Can you link me your game with Victor?

farside22 · Post Post #1020 (ISO) » Fri Jan 16, 2015 4:15 pm

In post 1012, Iecerint wrote:
In post 1004, Nachomamma8 wrote:And farside's claim seems infinitely townier than SG's.

Am I just missing her claim? I can't find it. AFAICT she just claimed concordance (unnecessarily I think, but I assume she has her reasons) with Andy and re: flavor. Is that what you're referring to?

More to let people know that the role claim from SG is crap because most were not getting it.

farside22 · Post Post #1021 (ISO) » Fri Jan 16, 2015 4:25 pm

In post 1019, Albert B. Rampage wrote:Can you link me your game with Victor?

Victor town game
scum game

Pine · Post Post #1022 (ISO) » Fri Jan 16, 2015 8:25 pm

Southern Gothic / Farside / Victor

In descending order of certainty

farside22 · Post Post #1023 (ISO) » Sat Jan 17, 2015 2:39 am

Things that pine avoid responding to.

In post 832, farside22 wrote:
In post 825, Pine wrote:I've done a reread,and no longer have a hardon to lynch Andy or Iec. They're okay in my book now. Farside looks worse, as does Titus

Who, ABR, Andrius, Iecerint, and myself are not acceptable lynches today

Titus and Farside are my biggest hunches now

VOTE: Farside

You are scum aren't you.
A scum read out of the blue with no reason.
Sounds like your scum game.

Why no mention of victor who voted for four

In post 833, farside22 wrote:Also why pine do you want to know town reads from players when talking about targets?

Pine · Post Post #1024 (ISO) » Sat Jan 17, 2015 6:29 am

Avoiding and ignoring are two different things. I was doing the latter.

As you're so insistent:

You are scum aren't you. - No. As I said, I can prove that I'm Town, but decline to do so at this stage
A scum read out of the blue with no reason. - Nervous? It wasn't without development, and it wasn't without reason. At no point have you ever been better than null in my book, and the more you try to throw us off a productive track, the scummier you look
Sounds like your scum game. - No, it doesn't. You know my scumgame well enough that this statement is bizarre
Why no mention of victor who voted for four - What's your point? The Four wagon wasn't what I was basing my reads on
Also why pine do you want to know town reads from players when talking about targets? - I have my reasons, kindly stop rolefishing