West wrote:Is this just you being against giving people townreads? I'm very confused by this point.
Scum can investedly scumhunt in a more convincing way as there's another faction that they know exists. Much more likely than usual for a townread to be scum, I literally know from super recent experience. I'm not discouraging townreads, but I'm going to try really hard not to let my reads on the town side get too static and I suggest other people keep this in mind as well.
West wrote:is the "you" that I bolded supposed to be a general "you"
General you. Can replace it with 'one' as well.
West wrote:This doesn't explain why you ignored it.
Don't really see how I'm ignoring your response? Unless you mean I'm not analyzing your response as a whole or something?
West wrote:And, of course, you're still ignoring that he straight out says "I was making a point that [West's] logic was flawed."
Aristophanes wrote:I was making a point that his logic was flawed, but I also was
definitely still joking around
.
I feel like the bolded is a pretty important distinction that you're blatantly ignoring.
West wrote:Fuck that shit, RVS/joking period ended at post 41. Ari was continuing his "we could both be scum" argument at 62, while he was making the non-RVS argument of "Orci isn't doing anything."
Yeah because you egged him on about it here:
West wrote:Also, he still hasn't disproved my initial logic.
I'm kind of struggling to clearly articulate exactly what is bothering me so much about the way you're approaching this, but in my head it's like you're saying "Aristophanes is scummy for the serious RVS stuff he was saying-." So when Ari says it's a joke and it really seems to me like it's pretty clearly a joke, it's weird that you throw shit at him over his jokereasoning, he responds to that and now you come back and say that it wasn't RVS reasoning because he responded to you prodding at him over it? Your tone wasn't even clearly serious there, so it comes across as feeling especially sleezy to me. It seems to me like he only talked about it later because you set him up to do so.
^
Everyone
should make an effort to read this part of the game because I'm pretty sure West is setting Ari up here.
West wrote:Regarding his meta, that's one of the points of this. scumAri trying to emphasize the possibility of a situation where he and I could be on separate teams but both be scum makes complete sense to me after the last D2 game.
Can you explain this more clearly?
Acryon
:
i) Do you consider yourself to be a player who has slow starts in general?
ii) I'm pretty shrug with most of his play up until his 22nd post at which point he starts to focus really hard on Lalendra. This feels kinda inconsistent with his play prior in this game. He becomes very focused on asking Lalendra questions and making points as to why she's scummy, whereas he was kind of more disinterested in pushing for Aristophanes or asking him questions. I feel like there's a very distinct difference in playstyle being taken here and it doesn't even make much sense from a perspective of "I think that Aristophanes is less scummy than Lalendra", because his reasoning when he unvotes is that he wants to avoid a quickhammer.
Kind of gives me the impression that Ari or Lalendra might be a scummate of his [more likely Lalendra just from some other interactions] or that he might have been forcing his scumread on Aristophanes and felt uncomfortable pushing it.
iii) A lot of his play beyond pushing his main scumread feels just kind of reactionary. Any post that isn't him making a point on why someone is scummy is usually just a response to other people's questioning of him. I don't really see a lot of outward questioning that comes across as him making a genuine effort to try and sort people.
iv)
Acryon wrote:Knowing she has only played one game on their site, do your feelings change?
Why is this a valuable question for you to be asking farside given your scumread on Lal? Run me through the thought process here.
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