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[Shanba]

Oh. I missed that.

[Skruffs]

Some? One? Please? Vote?

[Yamahako]

YAma, I like how you put either/or.. Either thrawn is scum OR mert is a cop...
you don't think it's both?

how do you get that from:

It comes down to whether you are sure enough that Thrawn screwed up his claim and is therefore scum, or whether you believe Mert is a cop and got a guilty. Which camp would you put yourself in?

If you trust Mert, its far better to vote his guilty. If you are suspicious of Mert, its far better to vote off Thrawn. If Mert were cleared - ZF would be the better play because its 100%, because there's a slim chance (VERY slim) that Thrawn just made a mistake and didn't remember what he did exactly.

[Skruffs]

Something to consider : Zufaul/Mert and Thrawn are 2 of hte 3 scum. That means only one of Shanba, SV, and Yama are the other scum. (And I think those will be hte final three). I've kinda perused to find out what other players were saying... keeping in mind that more likely than not, shanba, SV, and Yama can not be scum together. Anyways here is some quotes from Zu faul, Thrawn, and various other people who are not in teh game and such not. I encourage everyone to find their own list of quotes and post them for public digestion.

With Ubertimmy prodded, there's no point in bandwagoning him until he or his replacement is here. Skruffs, I can't decide whether or not I should be voting you at the moment. You have some posts that are very logical-looking, and some that...well, to put it lightly, are both hard to follow, and useless. There's no point in discussing the "ideal" scum here, because that's only in theory, and you confuse the issue by making the information public.

I was mostly making a half-assed attempt at a joke at Jack's expense, without a desire to follow through. However much it makes the first few pages interesting, it was really annoying! And just to be clear, I'm not claiming information regarding the existence of post restrictions in the game by my vote.

I'm going to throw out an FOS to AndrewS for the little explanation on why a random vote restriction would ruin an endgame. That sort of analysis, as Skruffs' analysis of what stereotypical scum do, is less useful when the information is made public. As an aside, I would argue that scum wouldn't just jump on the bandwagon right away, and if Jack or someone else had a random voting post restriction, he'd probably have moved his vote and have to be convinced to move it back. Regardless, he's claimed not to have a post restriction at this point. That is some information.

Cuban smoker, why are you so interested in pressuring people who aren't here? What's the use? I get it, you can potentially avoid commenting on the discussions here, but as long as the mod knows what is going on and does something about it, we'll have a chance to pressure ubertimmy later.

For the moment, my vote is staying on Skruffs because there isn't a compelling reason to move it elsewhere.

Seriously, if I just wanted to toss someone under, I'd pick anyone other than simenon. Instead of attempting to provoke conversation, and trying to figure out what he thought, I would just let it go and attack anybody else.

Let me be clear, since running my mouth off earlier with wild speculation on my part didn't seem to go over very well. I don't expect that there will be anything to come of this. That's why I feel comfortable pressuring him directly instead of just taking the time to smear him the next time I post. I am voting him because he's voting me, but it's the reason supplied that made it an obvious next step for me.

I agree that we need to examine Yamahako.

Vote: Yamahako

Now that Ubertimmy is being prodded/replaced, there's no point in voting him.

Not unless someone has been holding out on us. I think my explanation sort of fits, but it is working from the theory that there are no surprises lurking behind closed doors regarding any potential roleblocks, doc protects, potential SK's, one-shots... the possibilities are pretty wide open, so I figured I would try to deal with only the ones that seem reasonable. Now if the vig didn't kill...then we really have a mystery.

Mod-directed question: why does it say that there are four votes on yamahako when only skruffs, cubsfan, and spectrumvoid are listed voting for him? Is that correct?

pretty sure yamahako is scum

I'd probably favor Cubsfan.

I'm on the fence with Jack.

Scruffs posts a little too much.

CS got an avatar. That makes me happy.

Yam seems town to me.

In fact- I'm going to go ahead and

Vote:Cubsfan4Ever

and put him at L-3 unless there is any objection.

If I were mafia (and UT was town) I would purposefully avoid NKing him tonight.

Where would that get us?

For the record, in my opinion, Thrawn and UT both flew so under the radar, hardly anyone mentions them, at all, for any reason, town or scum. but I think thrawn has tied himself to UT/Zu faul fairly well.

[Skruffs]

But you are saying that it's either one OR the other.
Why can't it be that thrawn is scum today - by his own admission - AND zu faul is scum tomorrow - by Mert - who is not cleared's - admission?

The way you phrased it is that we have to choose one OR the other. Two separate camps. As far as I am aware, Zu Faul and Thrawn are BOTH guilty, but with a claimed cop or lylo, we have to put scum into the situation where they will kill their threat (mert) and sacrifice zu faul or spare mert, hoping to mis lynch him tomorrow, and night killing me. I doubt I will be around tomorrow, which is why I am voting for what I see completely as scum today.

MOD : PROD THRAWN (or replace him if you can find someone foolish enough to try and recover from that set back)

thank you.

[Yamahako]

But you are saying that it's either one OR the other.
Why can't it be that thrawn is scum today - by his own admission - AND zu faul is scum tomorrow - by Mert - who is not cleared's - admission?

The way you phrased it is that we have to choose one OR the other. Two separate camps. As far as I am aware, Zu Faul and Thrawn are BOTH guilty, but with a claimed cop or lylo, we have to put scum into the situation where they will kill their threat (mert) and sacrifice zu faul or spare mert, hoping to mis lynch him tomorrow, and night killing me. I doubt I will be around tomorrow, which is why I am voting for what I see completely as scum today.

It's not EITHER OR forever, its EITHER OR today. Who's the best play TODAY. Do you seriously think that the reality of both being scum wasn't already implied?

If we are at lynch or lose (likely), then we have ONE shot at the right guy today. YES ZF and Thrawn are probably scum buddies. But, there is a chance (however slim) that they are not. Since we have to pick one of them to lynch today - then we need to decide what is more credible - Mert being a cop or Thrawn's slip up.

That isn't saying that they both aren't scum - that's saying we need to decide which one is the best chance play for TODAY. If Mert is a cop, then ZF is 100% scum. If we can't determine that Mert is our cop, then Thrawn's slip-up makes the best play.

I think we are still waiting for another claim in any case (unless I missed it which is possible).

[Shanba]

mm. Actually, at this point we've had two different sets of people put thrawn at three and noone has hammered, so he must be scum. Also, I would point out the slim possibility that Mert is bussing his scumbuddy Zu. I don't think it's likley, but it's not impossible.

[Skruffs]

Fos : Yamahako

Please pay more attentino tot eh game.
EVeryone has claimed, and I have stated repeatedly.
It is a LOT (read: completely) more likely that Mert scum claimed a guilty on ZU Faul to get the necessary mislynch required to win the game than it is that Thrawn Town misclaimed a role so very horribly.

I have also been voting Thrawn for... how long?
Shanba, Yama, I don't think either of you have voted him, yet.
I mean... seriously, if there are three scum, and thrawn is not one of them, and it's LYLO, and at least one townie is voting Thrawn for weeks, and he's claimed the only role left that has a chance of stopping scum from winning after a mislynch today, and scum won't even look suspicious for hammering him, then DON'T you think scum would have hammered by now for the game win?

If thrawn is not scum, then I congradulate the scum on as a group being so entirely patient with the town, and drawing this out so long.
Thrawn is the ONLY safe play, Zu and Mert can be decided on tommorrow.

[Shanba]

I am voting him currently.

[Skruffs]

sorry, zu faul unvoted, then you voted himm.
So me, you, and someone else (I forget) is voting him.

It's interesting how yama is okay with lynching andrews - who he thought was town - but is stalling so hard with thrawn. It's like he sees his house of cards tumbling down...

[Skruffs]

The only way I can see Thrawn as a town RBer is if he targets people during the day, before lynch, but that's not a normal role, and this is a normal game. So uh-uh.

[thrawn1020]

Hold on a minute. Ugh. I was claiming in another game at around the same time. And do you think that anybody would be so silly as to add an extra night to their claim if they were in their right mind? I hope you give me a reconsider after my (checked) claim. I had the first part right, about being useless. I do apologize about going from memory. I just checked my logs, and this is what I have down:

N1: Skruffs
N2: Failed to send in a choice

That's more like it. Please give me a chance to confirm that by letting me block one of the potential targets tonight.

[Skruffs]

What other game were you playing in, as a claimed town role blocker that happened to have both Yamahoko and AndrewS in it?
Because when I checked your profile... I only see you posting in one game, ever, on this site. This one. Which is, you know.. odd.
Strike Two.

And just for the benefit of the doubt:

Yamahako -1- (Ubertimmy)
Jack -1- ( Cubsfan4ever)
Ubertimmy -1- (Skruffs)
AndrewS -4- (Mert, Jack, Abbott, Yamahako)
Mert -1- (AndrewS)
Not voting - (Hemisphere Dancer, Spectrumvoid, Thrawn 1020, )

Why did you choose to block me instead of one of the quicklynchers of the doctor?
I understand that you were moving and that's why you maybe didn't get to send ina night action night 2, but...

[Skruffs]

My apologies, I'm here. I'm glad to see that zu-Faul finally claimed!

Unvote

, not that it explains anything.

My turn.

I am a roleblocker. A rather useless roleblocker so far, as it turns out.

Targets: N1: AndrewS
N2: Yamahako
N3: I failed to send in a choice

I'm sure that isn't going to win me any points, but fwiw, you do have me available for tonight.

This post suggests you knew which game you were in, you refer to three different players that are in this game. And again, I can't find another game with you in it at this time.

[Simenon]

Thrawn 1020 -2- (skruffs, SV)
Zufaul -1- (Shanba)
Mert -1- (Zufaul)

[Shanba]

unvote, vote thrawn

I don't think we're learning znything new today.

[thrawn1020]

Man, you people! Maybe I don't want to say what was going on in my life at that point....

Responding to the statement that I had only posted in one other game on this site ever.... The system must be broken. I've been around since '05. Says so to the right of every post I make. You must not even have checked... good job doing your homework there.

Sure, I knew what game I was posting in, I'd just forgotton the chain of events there. Though to be perfectly honest, I'm shocked I'm still living. It's not often you live several days after posting a claim that obviously bad, even if it was inadvertant on my part.

I think someone needs to make a decision. Either just lynch me or lets go with the cop. Lets stop wasting time here. That's what caused me to forget everything that has happened here. The stupid thread has been open since February.

[Yamahako]

Fos : Yamahako

Please pay more attentino tot eh game.
EVeryone has claimed, and I have stated repeatedly.

I think we are still waiting for another claim in any case

(unless I missed it which is possible).

So I missed it, when did you state repeatedly that everyone has claimed? I'd pay more attention to your typos, personally.

It is a LOT (read: completely) more likely that Mert scum claimed a guilty on ZU Faul to get the necessary mislynch required to win the game than it is that Thrawn Town misclaimed a role so very horribly.

Excellent, exactly the type of discussion we need to be engaging in.

I have also been voting Thrawn for... how long?
Shanba, Yama, I don't think either of you have voted him, yet.
I mean... seriously, if there are three scum, and thrawn is not one of them, and it's LYLO, and at least one townie is voting Thrawn for weeks, and he's claimed the only role left that has a chance of stopping scum from winning after a mislynch today, and scum won't even look suspicious for hammering him, then DON'T you think scum would have hammered by now for the game win?

More excellent points, I just want to see what other people have to say about everything before I put down my vote. I am being cautious. When people are in lynch or lose, dropping votes willy-nilly is not a good plan.

If thrawn is not scum, then I congradulate the scum on as a group being so entirely patient with the town, and drawing this out so long.
Thrawn is the ONLY safe play, Zu and Mert can be decided on tommorrow.

Good we know where you stand. What do other people think? I'm not really that convinced by Thrawn's latest post, but then again I'm a heartless bastard.

[Skruffs]

Thrawn... I clicked on your profile and clicked Find all posts by thrawn1020, and the entire first page was for this game. No other games present or accounted for.
If there is another game, it doesn't show up for me, maybe there is a bug? Can you provide proof of this other game that all three of you played in?

[Skruffs]

mert is currently voting zu faul.

[Yamahako]

Vote thrawn

It looks like no one else wants to discuss our options. Might as well see where this takes us.

[Simenon]

IH should be back soon, I'll let him set a deadline.

This game needs one.

[Shanba]

Actually, with Yamahako's vote that should be a lynch.

[Mert]

Actually, with Yamahako's vote that should be a lynch.

That's what I thought... it's why I didn't reply after he voted...

Ah well, fingers crossed.

[Simenon]

"AHA, Speed, be careful, AHA, watch out, AHA!!"
"Don't worry, AHA, Careful is my middle name, AHA, hurry, to the mach 7, AHA!"

That flashback is suddenly interrupted as Thrawn looks around, then snarls as he says "AHA, you'll never take me, AHA! MACH 7!"

His car comes flying around the corner, as a button is pressed, and a wall jumps out. Unfotunately for him, I was in the backseat.

"A consensus has been reached", and that was the end of

Thrawn, Speed Racer, Mafia Roleblocker

as he has been lynched.

Night Four.