Mini 459 - /cows Mafia - GAME OVER, YAY!

[Spambot]

You know, I would have liked it better if Panzer had explained himself instead of everybody providing excuses for him.

[Occult]

Where is Aimee to bring some reason into this discussion?

[Aimee]

Where is Aimee to bring some reason into this discussion?

Aimee can't bring reason... but she can bring a vote count!

VOTE COUNT

Atticus - 3 (Blue Zebra, xyzzy, Panzerjager)

Panzerjager - 2 (Mastermind of Sin, Spambot)
xyzzy - 1 (ThAdmiral)
Spambot - 1 (JordanA24)

Not Voting - 5 (Hadhfang, Atticus, Hjallti, Occult, TonyMontana)

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch!

Also, on a side note, some people are going to be getting a kick in the butt - I am sending prods.

[Aimee]

Or, yellowbounder will send prods, seeing as that is his job (and I get confused).

[xyzzy]

Ah, nice job their with the additional [/i].

How about this: we leave Panzer alone, then we choose his kills for him. If by some amazing luck he wins, then... we suck and deserve the loss. That way, we can get 2 chances of knocking out scum every day.

[JordanA24]

That's if he isn't lying about being an SK.

[Atticus]

Either; A.)lynch all liars or B.)lynch any proven anti-town. If he's not A, he's B. If Panzer's anti-town , I don't want to keep him alive. He's a liar, I don't want to keep him alive. Lynch All Liars is the only metagame I like. Whether it's correct in this case or not. No townie needs to lie. Ever.

Vote: Panzer

[Mastermind of Sin]

LAL doesn't always apply, as there are reasons for townies to lie or withhold the full truth on occasion. However, there is no reason for a townie to EVER claim SK, unless it is an endgame ploy to screw over the mafia (See: CSER mafia, even though it didn't work).

[Atticus]

But this isn't endgame.

[xyzzy]

Therefore making him truthful.

Don't shoot tools.

(Sorry for calling you a tool, Panzer, but it's true.)

[ThAdmiral]

Unvote

I don't mind the idea of using panzer to kill people we think are suspicious (that is if he even is an sk), but those kills could just as easily be manipulated by the mafia as the lynches are.

And if we can't decide who our number 1 most suspicious character is today, how are we going to figure out who number 2 is?

I'd rather not take the risk and just vote him. If he's not the sk we'll hear him out when he's at -1 i'm sure.

vote: panzerjager

[Mastermind of Sin]

But this isn't endgame.

Exactly my point.

[Hjallti]

I'm also convinced that either way (thruth or lie) there is no real reason to keep him alive, except for the jester theory.

vote: Panzerjager

[Hadhfang]

I'm also convinced that either way (thruth or lie) there is no real reason to keep him alive, except for the jester theory.

Which if he is a jester we all oose and suck. I would like to here him say a bit more in case we've got this all wrong and screw up royally.

HoS:panzerjager

[Atticus]

Of course, if he's a jester, the only way to tell is to see how many kills we have tonight. [but that would have to assume that the vig (if there is one) also does not kill] I don't think a jester fits in well with this game though, and I'm happy to lynch him quickly.

[Hjallti]

Sk and mafia could kill the same person, and we would think he is not a SK. Or mafia could not kill at all.

[PJ.]

Well, site must of died when I submmitted this last night. I'm a lyncher. I thought I'd be more compelled to create a case out of MoS from that. But I'm simply not. On that note MoS is probably cleared.

[Blue Zebra]

So, you're a lyncher, you don't want to make a case against MoS, and that means he's cleared? Explain.

[yellowbounder]

"Hey guys, we found the mayor in here. He accidentally won a coin toss, and died."

Mayor (Exploding Pointless NPC)

broke the town's sacred rule, Day 1.

Vote Count

Atticus - 3 (Blue Zebra, xyzzy, Panzerjager)

Panzerjager - 5 (Mastermind of Sin, Spambot, Atticus, ThAdmiral, Hjallti)

Spambot - 1 (JordanA24)

Not Voting - 3 (Hadhfang, Occult, TonyMontana)

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch!

[JordanA24]

Well, site must of died when I submmitted this last night. I'm a lyncher. I thought I'd be more compelled to create a case out of MoS from that. But I'm simply not. On that note MoS is probably cleared.

Two reasons why I still don't believe you:

1) Lyncher is a very unlikely role in a minigame

2) If you were a lyncher, you wouldn't say your target (MOS) is cleared, if he is your target, there's no way you would be able to win.

Unvote Vote: Panzer

Now there's the question of whether this a daring (and stupid) scum tactic or this is scum trying to attach themselves to a townie. I'm more inclined to think the latter, but still:

Small FOS: MOS

[PJ.]

God Damnit I just lost my post. Take 2. Anyway I figured three possible options: post what I did, post a half assed case on MoS, claim vanilla, and probably get lynched because I've had only 2 hours sleep and can't possibly commit to a good case right now, or not post andwait for my girlfriend to comeback so I can sleep then post a full case when I awoke, if I wasn't already lynched. I choose to claim fully. If I didn't claim my target you'd lynch me or take my opinions at half doseage. Since I did, I can be an extra vanilla townie and help the town win at the expense of a Panzerjager loss. I don't count my statistics anyway so what does it matter if I get a loss?

[Spambot]

Unvote

What the hell is a lyncher?

[Blue Zebra]

A lyncher's win condition is to get a specific townie lynched, which in this case is MoS.

[Hjallti]

I first will have to go through everything to understand the SK - lyncher -claims of PanzerJager, so I think it is better to

unvote:

[Spambot]

A lyncher's win condition is to get a specific townie lynched, which in this case is MoS.

So they aren't actually a townie? Like, it's basically a neutral role? Because in that case I'm fine with lynching Panzer.