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[Yosarian2]

Yosarian, your setup is terrible. Mafia will probably only contact the mod to send in their NK, which can happen anywhere between hour 1 and 5, with 11 possible suspects, watching 2 players will not amount to many intercepts.

There should be ONE, and only ONE cryptologist at hour 1.

No, almost everyone will probably send moves to the mod during hour 1. Remember, SIA's aren't just good for catching mafia doing nightkills; every single power role, including field agents and the white house liason, has several different abilites. An SIA agent can keep an eye on them, make sure they're doing something protown, make sure the field agents and such are actually protecting someone and not trying to use their other abilites for some scummy purpose. So I would think we're going to want both SIA's to record info and send it to cryptos every hour.

[Yosarian2]

In any case, though, as nearly everyone has to send an action choice to the mod during the first hour, I would expect the SIA's to get one report each during the first hour.

What ? Why would they send in actions the first hour ?

Why wouldn't they? Why wouldn't a field agent start protecting someone hour 1, a cop start investigation someone hour 1, ect? The only people who don't have a night action are the director, the deputy director, and the cryptos, I believe. Everyone else has several different actions they could take, and which action they DO take could tell us a lot about their alignment.

[Xdaamno]

Sorry for beign a little unactive (Compared to my usual >.>) lately, just wondering when hour 0 actually finishes

[Albert B. Rampage]

Why wouldn't they? Why wouldn't a field agent start protecting someone hour 1, a cop start investigation someone hour 1, ect? The only people who don't have a night action are the director, the deputy director, and the cryptos, I believe. Everyone else has several different actions they could take, and which action they DO take could tell us a lot about their alignment.

Any action they do take will be known to us by the result of it a few hours later anyway. All we are concerned with is terrorists contacting the mod to send in terrorist actions, which can happen whenever. I'm not disagreeing with 2 SIA, I'm disagreeing with more than 1 crypto.

[Korran]

I agree with you for once Xd

[Guardian]

I agree with you for once Xd

About what?

[Yosarian2]

Any action they do take will be known to us by the result of it a few hours later anyway. All we are concerned with is terrorists contacting the mod to send in terrorist actions, which can happen whenever. I'm not disagreeing with 2 SIA, I'm disagreeing with more than 1 crypto.

What makes you think that any action the field agents do would be known to us a few hours later anyway? The only way we'd know if a field agent wasn't doing what he was supposed to is if the person he was supposed to be protecting got killed. Otherwise, we'd only know if the mod told us specifically, and I don't imagine he would. Now, sure, if the white house liason did something he wasn't supposed to do, we would find out eventually, but by that point he might have already started a war or something; be better to catch him in the act and lynch him before he finishes the action in that case.

Yes, one of the big advanatages to the SIA's is that they can spot if somone sends in a kill order to the mod, but they can get us other information to, and I can't see why we wouldn't want them to.

And if we've got 2 SIA's sending in regular reports, we're going to need more then 1 crypto, right?

[Korran]

about when Hour zero finishes.

[Korran]

I agree with you for once Xd

About what?

^ that.

[Guardian]

Can you quote where Xdaamno says what you agree with?

[Korran]

lately, just wondering when hour 0 actually finishes

i was too lazy before

[Albert B. Rampage]

And if we've got 2 SIA's sending in regular reports, we're going to need more then 1 crypto, right?

I don't have a great feeling about this...even if there were regular reports, which I doubt, we would only need 2 maximum, 3 seems like a waste and a big risk.

[Korran]

yay my 100th game post!

[CrashTextDummie]

Checking in.

I don't have time to do a reread now, but since deadline is supposed to hit today and I don't know if I can get anything substantiated in before it does, I'll provide a "LoT" (list of trust), purely based on gut feeling:

knows what he's doing, and is probably town

:
Yosarian2
UltimaAvalon

doesn't know what he's doing, but is probably town

:
Albert B. Rampage
Korran

knows what he's doing, but could very well be scum

:
Xdaamno
Guardian

in the middle/undecided

:
Spambot
Eyceking
Off the Mark

don't trust

:
ChannelDelibird
YogurtBandit

This list is for reference for the future Director.

I can probably place Spambot, Eyceking and Off the Mark better once I reread.

For now, all that's left to do for me is to

unvote, vote: Yosarian2

[Guardian]

CTD's list makes a lot of sense for Yos (or me, theoretically) to use if elected.

I'll provide a "LoT" (list of trust), purely based on gut feeling:

knows what he's doing, and is probably town

:
UltimaAvalon
CrashTextDummie
Guardian

doesn't know what he's doing, but is probably town

:
Albert B. Rampage
Korran
YogurtBandit

in the middle/undecided

:
Spambot
Eyceking
Yosarian2 (but doesn't matter for this, really)
Xdaamno
ChannelDelibird

don't trust

:
Off the Mark

Explanations later/if requested.

First group = deputy, FBI, CounterIntel Agent
Second group = crypto, cryto, and more crypto SIA possibly, too SIA seems like it very well could be a waste of a role, as a lot of useless transmissions will be sent to the mod...
Third group = White house, NSA, Bodyguard?
Fourth group = Bodyguards.

OTM I don't trust because I think he was pushing for me for director so he could be crypto. I did not plan on revealing this until I/Yos was elected, but now it's pretty much there, and that is how I feel. Re-read with that lens.

Yos, my final suggestion on setup (10 non-director)

1 CIA
1 SIA
2 Crypto
1 FBI
2 Field Agent
1 Whitehouse
1 NSA
1 your discretion...

Whee...

[Albert B. Rampage]

Where do you place yourself

[Albert B. Rampage]

Okay here we go:

knows what he's doing, and is probably town:
Albert B. Rampage
Off the Mark

doesn't know what he's doing, but is probably town:
UltimaAvalon
Guardian
Yosarian2

in the middle/undecided:
Spambot
Eyceking
Xdaamno
ChannelDelibird

don't trust:
Korran
YogurtBandit

[Albert B. Rampage]

That's right you bastards, I know exactly what I'm doing!

[CrashTextDummie]

knows what he's doing, and is probably town

:
CrashTextDummie

When did that happen?

Albert:

You forgot me. Clear proof that you don't know what you're doing.

[Korran]

al doesn't trust me?

[Albert B. Rampage]

knows what he's doing, and is probably town

:
CrashTextDummie

When did that happen?

Albert:

You forgot me. Clear proof that you don't know what you're doing.

Oh, crap

[Albert B. Rampage]

al doesn't trust me?

If there were a "probably scum but doesn't know what the hell he's doing, that's where I'd have you"

[Korran]

hmph

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Final Votecount

7 Yosarian( CDB, Spambot, Xdaamno, Yosarian, EyceKing, UltimaAvalon, CTD)
5 Guardian(Guardian, Korran, YogurtBandit, Albert B. Rampage, OffTheMark)
1 UltimaAvalon(UltimaAvalon)

Hour 0 has ended.

Data Uplink to Department of Homeland Security has been completed and data is being transfered now.

Director Yosarian please submit your role assignments for the rest of your team.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

CDB has been replaced by Frozen Atlantic by request.

Hour 1 has begun

Remember to check the 2nd post for the intelligence update.