Mini 462: Just another game of Mafia... over

[PJ.]

It felt like you were calling me confirmed scum.

[Tarhalindur]

It felt like you were calling me confirmed scum.

I don't like attacks based on feelings, especially OMGUS attacks. Can you explain why it felt like I was calling you confirmed scum?

[Khelvaster]

I almost want to lynch Hand Banana...I feel unsafe with him as our vig. He isn't scummy, but the way he's acting makes me feel really bad about his judgement to hit scum instead of townies at night. He apparently read through Tapioca mafia...in that game, the vig nailed a townie night 1 and a doc night 2. Despite this, we could just tell him not to kill anyone. That would weaken him down to a townie, but it would be better IMO than losing a townie.

Anyway, I am seeing something awkward about Panzer's posts. I don't know if it's just paranoia, so for now

IGMEOY

, Panzer. I'll need to reread posts to find something substantial.

[Nekka-Lucifer]

Wow, I've obviously missed out on alot of content while I was away. I just want to raise suspicion back onto Hand Banana, personally I don't believe his claim. The suspicion I would like to raise is on Post 127. In the last bit, didn't he outloy his future plan to catch scum, or did I misread it?

[PJ.]

Because I read what you wrote but it registered as you are confirmed scum.

[Tarhalindur]

Because I read what you wrote but it registered as you are confirmed scum.

In other words, you misinterpreted what I wrote. That's what I was checking for.

I still don't like your tone over the course of this game, panzer, but your explanation for your posts 132 and 138 makes sense to me and I can't find anything else you've done that's voteworthy.

Unvote, IGMEOY: Panzerjager

Hand banana: Why are you ignoring the town's wishes about whether or not you should use your vig? And why are you still advocating that the town go along with a course of action that's quite likely to out our power roles?

You're an uncounterclaimed vig, yes, but you said yourself that a poorly played vig could work to the detriment of the town... and yes, I'd consider the course of action you're advocating poor play for a vig.

[PJ.]

I'm still curious who he would want to claim.

[AlSleet]

First off, if he is gonna play this, I'm gonna name people and they need to claim game and reveal power roles I want to be more certain then Hand Banana is vig. On top of that if he is gonna go around having power roles claim and such I'd rather have the vig lynched, because that is a terrible strategy. Might as well mas claim and see where that gets us. I'm 100% against this strategy regardless of the townness.

AlSleet, please tell me how I have been Inconsistent. I have been logical and aggressive the entire game. This is twice you have said something false about me. Why are you slandering me?

FoS:AlSleet

I meant inconsistent in your voting suspicions. There were like 4 posts towrds the beginning when you started jumping on small details of people's posts. It just seemed a little all over the place to me. I don't really suspect you much anymore, though, I figure you were just trying to get discussion going. Plus, I see some people (i.e Khelvaster) who have made themselves more suspect to me than you have.

[PJ.]

I was telling people they were acting suspicious. Consistently telling them they were suspicious. I still don't see and inconsistency. Is there any particular reason why you have FoSed me twice because of things both of us have proved to be not true?

[AlSleet]

How are we supposed to be certain that you are actually a vig and not a mafia goon that is role fishing?

If he doesn't get NK'ed by scum, we'll know his claim is bull. Then, I'd say, we should lynch his scummy ass.

[AlSleet]

I was telling people they were acting suspicious. Consistently telling them they were suspicious. I still don't see and inconsistency. Is there any particular reason why you have FoSed me twice because of things both of us have proved to be not true?

Those were my reasons, alright? Maybe inconsistent was the wrong word to use, but I've explained why I did it and I won't do so again.

[hand banana]

i wouldn't get NK'ed if doc protects me.
you would lynch me after that?

[AlSleet]

i wouldn't get NK'ed if doc protects me.
you would lynch me after that?

I don't know to be honest. I still haven't decided if I think you're genuine. Nobody has counterclaimed you, yet I think your plan is foolish and unnecessarily risky. I'll have to reread the topic to get a better impression I suppose.

[PJ.]

Well why would a protown player claim -5 from lynch

[hand banana]

well, anyone would claim in -1 from lynch. i really didn't have to claim..
and i explained all that.

FOS: Panzerjager

and about my strategy being " foolish and unnecessarily risky". i think unnecessarily risky is killing people without revealing that you are vig. would you rather had me killing secretly whoever i wanted than this? this way, at least i'm giving a chance to power-roles..

[PJ.]

Alright, so since you seem keen on naming people for a claim, who did you want to name?

[AlSleet]

well, anyone would claim in -1 from lynch. i really didn't have to claim..
and i explained all that.

FOS: Panzerjager

and about my strategy being " foolish and unnecessarily risky". i think unnecessarily risky is killing people without revealing that you are vig. would you rather had me killing secretly whoever i wanted than this? this way, at least i'm giving a chance to power-roles..

I'd rather have kept you role secret and not have been such a dyanmic. I think it would have been safer and more effective that way. But that's just my opinion.

[Khelvaster]

He kept himself safe from mafia until doc dies by claiming. The mafia won't hit him, since the question of whether he would die is left open. A doc, if he exists, will definitely offer him protection.

[~N9V~]

Sorry, will have a post this weekend....

[~N9V~]

Err, tommorow.

[hand banana]

Alright, so since you seem keen on naming people for a claim, who did you want to name?

i will see. if i'm not sure, i won't name anyone and i won't use night kill at all.

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I think it would have been safer and more effective that way

it would be safer for scum. and for for me. yes, i will probably get killed right after the doc, but at least i will try not the damage the town, but to help it ...instead of almost all other vigs here (games i read so far, vigs really sucked and killed much townies).

[Khelvaster]

Mod: Votecount please

[Nekka-Lucifer]

Are my posts invisible now that conversation has started up again? I was making a very useful statement and seeing if it was right or wrong. (Post 153)

[PJ.]

You're correct he did and he is amending it. I'm still not a fan of when he claimed, his thinking, his FoS me for being critical of his thinking, or his claim. If he wanted to come out and claim why did he wait so long. He seemed he was unsure and decided to gambit thinking his claim would be accepted and no one would give him questions, or he really did want to come out deceided to try to play it safe got flak and then said screw it i'll claim halfway through making it awkward. Either way I am getting very bad vibes from it, and am wishing he had a name to drop rather then that crap about no finding anyone suspicious enough to say he was gonna kill them. His little idea about saying I'll shoot them if they don't claim realy rubs me the wrong way. For now, I'm gonna risk being wrong about his role and

Vote:HandBanana

[hand banana]

panzer you scum, you are so going down tonight.