Magic: The Gathering,GO TEAM MS!

[Thestatusquo]

Its worth noting that all the money cards in UR delver are directly transferable to several other archetypes so buying into delver gets you close to buying into twin, scapeshift, UWR control, storm etc, whereas that 65$ linvala isn't applicable anywhere else.

[Sudo_Nym]

Speaking of, the UWR Dig-Twin deck from LSV's recent videos looks super nice.

[Thestatusquo]

modern format all-star village bell-ringer

[Sudo_Nym]

You joke, but having a combo piece that doesn't die to Lightning Bolt seems to be of reasonable value in Modern.

[bv310]

To be fair, Deceiver Exarch survives Bolt too.

[Shanba]

Aye but pestermite does not, and the bell ringer is playing pestermite's position, iirc.

[kdowns]

I'm wondering who here plays? Is there interest/enough players from MS to get a MS clan going?

My name is Sheastrausman.

I probably am going to buy into modern at GP also. I probably will be going for either affinity or pod.

[Thestatusquo]

Aye but pestermite does not, and the bell ringer is playing pestermite's position, iirc.

I still like the UR version better. Village Bell Ringer might be a little better if the deck is trying to go off, but perstermite is WAY better in all the games you win without going off, which I can tell you from a lot of experience piloting the deck is at least 50% of the time.

[PeregrineV]

I'm wondering who here plays? Is there interest/enough players from MS to get a MS clan going?

My name is Sheastrausman.

I probably am going to buy into modern at GP also. I probably will be going for either affinity or pod.

You going to the SA GP?

[Shanba]

Aye but pestermite does not, and the bell ringer is playing pestermite's position, iirc.

I still like the UR version better. Village Bell Ringer might be a little better if the deck is trying to go off, but perstermite is WAY better in all the games you win without going off, which I can tell you from a lot of experience piloting the deck is at least 50% of the time.

Yeah that's fair. It looked like the way LSV was playing it that the backup plan was Control Deck rather than Tempo Deck, as it were, so maybe the Bell Ringer makes more sense there. But I have no experience with the archetype (and my only experience with the format is cheesing people out with prime times) so I'm not gonna press the point further.

[Thestatusquo]

I played the UWR control version of the deck at GP Minneapolis. Similar to this list:

2xMountain
4xArid Mesa
4xCelestial Colonnade
1xHallowed Fountain
1xPlains
2xIsland
2xSacred Foundry
4xScalding Tarn
2xSulfur Falls
2xSteam Vents
2xSnapcaster Mage
4xWall of Omens
4xDeceiver Exarch
4xRestoration Angel
3xKiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker
4xPath to Exile
4xRemand
4xSplinter Twin
4xLightning Bolt
3xLightning Helix
0x-----Sideboard-----
3xAnger of the Gods
2xSowing Salt
3xDispel
2xStony Silence
1xEngineered Explosives
2xSpellskite
1xWear Tear
1xLightning Helix

Wasn't a huge fan. You just have so much fluff in your deck g1 in terms of the combo that you can't play the control roll as well as you need to imo.

Certainly not ideal in a format full of UR delver.

[Thestatusquo]

I was also playing another snapcaster and 2 cryptics in there somewhere.

[kdowns]

I'm wondering who here plays? Is there interest/enough players from MS to get a MS clan going?

My name is Sheastrausman.

I probably am going to buy into modern at GP also. I probably will be going for either affinity or pod.

You going to the SA GP?

Yes I am!

[beeboy]

http://puu.sh/cYVS5/17c6ab64dd.jpg
http://puu.sh/cYVSk/fe258a52d2.jpg
http://puu.sh/cYVSe/2a5c89b43a.jpg
I will leave these as links and not images so I don't waste lot of space

My budget is the above plus 200$ and maybe a sarkhan and 2 stormbreath dragons

I decided I wanted to build this deck
http://magic.tcgplayer.com/db/deck.asp?deck_id=1221894
(I don't even have the swift spears for it yet)

I chose delver over pod as it is a cheaper deck and I enjoy it more then pod

here are the vendors at GP Ottawa
http://www.gamekeeper.ca/gpottawa/#.VG5qw4vF91A
which ones would give me the most credit or ones I should just avoid all together on average.


I am still pretty new to magic (playing since born of the gods) and I am not sure how I should go about buying an entire deck :/

[Thestatusquo]

http://brainstormbrewery.com/conjured-c ... ew-jersey/

Worth a read. In general dealing with vendors at large events is an art not a science. Keep in mind you are not going to get retail for your cards you are going to get buylist. It might behoove you to try to trade with some of the less high value cards into some of the other less high value cards of the deck. I would definitely try to do some serious trading before you get down to the rest of this post. That way you're not hemorrhaging value.

Check out a this site to see what your cards are likely to get on the buylist:
http://www.quietspeculation.com/tt3/ (plug: run by Kelly Reid, a solid guy. QS insider is totally worth it!)

After you've got a good idea of what your cards are going to net you before you get to the GP you're ready to go. Once you get there you are going to be looking for two things: Vendors that offer a bonus on store credit as opposed to cash and vendors that have physical copies of their buylists that you can take and compare to see who is going to give you the best value. There are some vendors (most notably channelfireball) that always give 30% on top of their buylist price if you're willing to take credit and not cash. Since you're trying to buy cards with this money, vendors like this are probably your best option. Keep in mind the following: 1) You still need to shop around. Just because it has a credit bonus doesn't mean its the best value. If CFB is buying the card for 3 and scg is buying the card for 5 even with the 30% bonus SCGs price is still better. 2) Sometimes your time will be worth more than finding an extra quarter. If the booth you're selling 200 worth of stuff to is off by a dollar on something its probably not worth your time to go find the one place thats going to give you that 1$. 3) This is the most important part here and its why doing your homework before hand is most important. Those prices are not set in stone. Especially if you're selling a whole bunch to them. Don't haggle on every card, especially if its small stuff, but hey, if you're being offered 10 dollars on a card and you saw online the buylist was 14 high and a bunch of other vendors are offering 12, don't be afraid to say "hey, can you go 12 on that. The other booths are paying 12." This shows that you're paying attention and most of the time if your price is reasonable the dealer will accept it.

I hope that was helpful. A dealer I have had particular success dealing with before is ivory tower games, I don't know if they'll be there, but I sold off like a whole deck at richmond and they were great to work with. Also shout out MTG Card Market and my buddy Jameson Reeves. Again, don't know if hes gunna be there (if he is he'll be the dude behind the booth with the blue mohawk) but he's a great guy and runs a great shop.

Good luck dude.

Source: I buy and sell magic collections for a non-trivial amount of my income.

[Thestatusquo]

btw, hang on to the thoughtseize if you can. They're going up long term for sure.

[bv310]

I've dealt with Facetoface a lot in the past, they're really great to deal with.

Also, make sure to get RK Post to sign some stuff. Dude's cool to chat with.

[beeboy]

Thanks a lot!!! I will probably end up holding onto the thoughtseize as I probably won't get fetch lands just yet

I printed of a sheet with a max value I would pay for cards and minimum value I would give them away for so I can easily stay on budget

[Thestatusquo]

Did you make sure your sell prices are realistic? For instance, your coursers are worth (all prices in USD) 12-13 retail but no one is going to give you more than 6-7. Stormbreath is like fifteen but you'll probably be offered 8. Xenagos is 10 but buylists for around 4. These prices obviously get a lot better if you add a 30% bonus for trading.

A whole bunch of those rares you posted appear to be what dealers will consider bulk (i.e. cards that retail from 50-75 cents) and you will probably be offered .10-.25 cents on them.

I just want to make sure you're not completely shocked by the prices you're offered, as many first time sellers often are.

[beeboy]

I am aware a lot of that was bulk making the list also speeds up trading a lot (I have different prices set)

Although 200 bulk rares at 25c is 50$ and at TCG mid the deck is around 350$ so it will surely help considering I was never going to use those rares

[Thestatusquo]

Alright sweet.

[Thestatusquo]

just trying to be as helpful as I possibly can!

[beeboy]

I really appreciate it!

I also want to make sure I am not trading something in for less then I can get at my LGS as there buylist is pretty good in many situations

http://www.401games.ca/tradelists/FullWantedList.htm

I might not even find many people who want to trade me thoughtseize for 25$ xD
What website should I use for price points when doing trades?

[bv310]

tcgplayer.com mid price is pretty standard for person-to-person trades.

[Thestatusquo]

price point for trades shouldn't matter as long as you use the same price guide for both sides.