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[Yamahako]

More discussion is always better for town guys. Quick lynching Thrawn when we don't need to isn't our best option here. There's no reason why Thrawn won't be our play today, but

FOS

the people trying to get us to night so fast!

[spectrumvoid]

Yamahako: True, but only if the discussion doesn't revolve around claiming, like it has been.

[Yamahako]

Yamahako: True, but only if the discussion doesn't revolve around claiming, like it has been.

Why are you so nervous to claim? If the whole point to claiming was to find scum, and we've found 1, perhaps 2, scum from the process - why wouldn't we want to continue down this avenue that has been so fruitful?

[Skruffs]

Well, if you want to discuss claims,t hat's fine, I'm just wary that scum are balking for a way to get a townie lynched instead. There si no way that Thrawn, at town, could have butchered a claim so badly.

[Yamahako]

Well, if you want to discuss claims,t hat's fine, I'm just wary that scum are balking for a way to get a townie lynched instead. There si no way that Thrawn, at town, could have butchered a claim so badly.

/agree

[Shanba]

unvote

Shanba, I didn't see your post and wasn't aware that I was in fact putting the third vote on Thrawn, I just thought it was the second. I agree with Skruffs, I don't think we need any more claims. But there is no reason we can't discuss what is better for town.

vote: Thrawn1020

As Skrufs said, we didn't have Night 3 and AdrewS was dead. Seems like scum who made this up, thinking the game started with night.

Lynch -1!!

I don't think we need more claiming today, it just helps the scum.

Bolding mine. Nice backtracking there.

I've made up my mind. I think Zu_Faul is scum who tried to quicklynch a townie who botched his claim. If I may ask a hypothetical question, are scum, who are wllowed to talk at night and

kill

at night any more or elss likely to think there was another night?

[Shanba]

vote: Zu_faul

[zu_Faul]

I somehow must have thought that there were only 5 players left. Stuff like that is why I don't like replacing into a game.

[Yamahako]

I think Skruffs is next..

[Skruffs]

SKruffs is next for what? Claiming?
Townie. I claimed flavor 2 months ago.

[Yamahako]

I'm DBZ, townie

[spectrumvoid]

I don't like the idea of claiming. All we're doing is outing power roles.

True, we could force the scum to fake-claim, but we could also do that tomorrow, while scum have to agonise over who to kill tonight if we don't out the power roles.

[Mert]

I do not want to give the scum a night to discuss and solidify their fake claims. We can only kill one person today, so it is very likely that two scum will go into this evening. Forcing a claim now will force them to claim without having been able to work something out between them.

Moreover, the scum can only kill one person tonight. They might go after any claimed power roles, but if we have more than one claim then we will at least have one claimed power role going into tomorrow.

[Skruffs]

thrawn today, pretty sure shanba will be a good one tommorrow, and I would look really hard at mert or zu faul the last day. Based wholly on their reluctance to lynch the eequivalenet of claimed scum. Pushing for Zu Faul right now strikes me as wrong. (And I've been pushing for him for two days..)

[zu_Faul]

I'm not reluctant at all to lynch Thrawn. It's just we can decide whether going on with claiming is a good idea or not. I still think it's not a good idea. But I'd not accuse anyone of fishing who is supporting the idea; we just have to estimate whether it does more harm or more good, as Mert has a point.

[Shanba]

Mmmm...

The main reason I'm not sure about a thrawn lynch is the way Zu suddenly jumped on his wagon to put him at three votes. With probably three scum alive and 7 players left, iI was worried that he was setting up thrawn for a quicklynch. However, with Yamahako, Mert and me all not hammering him that theory goes out the window (unless the scum are Skruffs, Zu_Faul and Speccy, a grouping wich I think is possible, but fairly unlikely).

I still don't like Zu Faul, and I'm still not sure about thrawn, but the evidence has proved me wrong at this point. I really, really don't like the way Skruffs just tried to set up the next days lynches. It makes me wonder if he already knows thrawn is scum.

The only way Thrawn could be town now is if Skruffs, Zu and speccy are all scum. Zu I can see as scum. Some of Skruffs more recent posts I can see scum making. Speccy... a lot of the earlier feel I had about her is gone. This is mostly after seeing her as scum and town in a few games (mostly newbie games). So I guess that makes thrawn the scum.

Yeah, a lot of that was stream of consciousness.

[Skruffs]

You know, you are kind of proving my point about why you may be a good lynch tommorrow. You are conceding that thrawn is very likely scum, but you are reluctant to lynch, trying to push it back onto Zu Faul instead.

What's curious is that you didn't talk about the people who haven't voted thrawn yet. If you think he's scum, isn't it very likely his buddies are avoiding hammering him because they know how close to success they are?

[Yamahako]

I do not want to give the scum a night to discuss and solidify their fake claims. We can only kill one person today, so it is very likely that two scum will go into this evening. Forcing a claim now will force them to claim without having been able to work something out between them.

Moreover, the scum can only kill one person tonight. They might go after any claimed power roles, but if we have more than one claim then we will at least have one claimed power role going into tomorrow.

:goodposting: you're next mert - though I understand if you wanna wait to hear a consensus about conrinuing.

What I don't get... is people jumping Zu for Ubertimmy saying he was a bad lynch because "there's too many power roles" and the same people being afraid of outing power roles, there's some riding both sides of the fence going on here...

[spectrumvoid]

Thinking over mert's post, I'm fine with claiming now.

[Shanba]

You know, you are kind of proving my point about why you may be a good lynch tommorrow. You are conceding that thrawn is very likely scum, but you are reluctant to lynch, trying to push it back onto Zu Faul instead.

The way zu jumped on the wagon looked very much like someone aiming for a quicklynch. With 7 alive, we are very likely in LYLO. The way he looked like he was quicklynching makes me want to take a step back and make sure I don't mess this up.

Also, after what I just quoted, is it really likely that thrawn isn't going to be killed? While I may be wary of lynching him, I know others aren't. What possible benefit could there be for me as scum to associate myself with him if he's my partner when it's virtually certain he will be lynched today?

[quote="Skruffs]
What's curious is that you didn't talk about the people who haven't voted thrawn yet. If you think he's scum, isn't it very likely his buddies are avoiding hammering him because they know how close to success they are?[/quote]

Uh? The point of my post was to work out whether thrawn was scum or all threee of you were scum. I came to the conclusion that I doubted all of you were scum, so thrawn probably is. Also, and I say this again, what chance is there that thrawn won't be lynched today? The most logical scum move at this point would be to bus him, as with probably three days consecutive Lylo, they have nothing to lose.

[Skruffs]

Thrawn hasn't attempted to corect or rectify his earlier statement. Lynchlynchlynch. HE gave up.

[spectrumvoid]

Haven't we already agreed that we need more information today before the lynch?

mod

Can we have a vote=count?

[Skruffs]

The only information I Was interested in was Zu Faul claiming and clearing up the mess about being a bad lynch. He's done that, and thrawn has claimed. I'd be surprised to see anything of any relevance from remaining claims, but, if you guys want to stall out and give scum a longer time to divert attention away from Thrawn, that's fine by me, I guess.

[Mert]

I'm Cowboy Bebop, the cop.

All bolding in the following quotes has been added after the fact to emphasise my meaning in this post.

I first mentioned this very slightly here:

I wasn't specifically talking about me here, it was more a general observation. Obviously on Day One it is impossible to have a cop with a guilty result as this game was a day start, so that's out.

And breadcrumbed slightly more significantly here:

In terms of information, I believe Cubsfan or Jack would be best, but I wouldn't be particularly happy with lynching them just for information, as

we'll get information from what happens during the night phase regardles

I also let the town know that I was going to investigate Zu_Faul's predecessor with this post:

I'm not saying I have no reason to think he's lying, I'm saying

it doesn't matter if he is as things will become clearer tomorrow regardless.

He is in my opinion, therefore, not the best play for today.

During Night One I investigated Skruffs who is a protown/investigation-immune player which is why I said he should choose the claim order.

During Night Two I investigated

OverTheUnder

Zu_Faul and got a guilty result, which is why I have been against going after Thrawn for today.

[zu_Faul]

vote: Mert

Well, you can't be paranoid, and you certainly aren't a normal cop. I'd know that. Maybe you're random or insane, but I don't buy that, as this is a normal game. The cowboys of Cowboy Bebop are really bounty hunters, not cops, aren't they? Your behaviour today doesn't make much sense as a cop. You were just fearing that I/UT was the real cop and would counterclaim you if you tried fake-claiming before I had claimed.
Seems we got another scum in addition to Thrawn.

Sorry, this is a really stupid time to leave, but my vacation isn't waiting for me.