Micro 407: Jurassic Park Mafia - Game Over

[Pine]

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Mathdino:

I'm town. Want confirmation? Ask Beck. He is my townie confirmation. Give me your most detailed read on Grib, please.

I can't confirm he's town, I can confirm he's telling the truth about his having an ability

At this point, it's an ability that gives notification to its target, but not publicly. There's just a -bare- handful of those, most of which have the -izer suffix. There's even fewer in Normal mechanics (which are in effect per ArcAngel's first post).

I just remembered this is a theme game and not bound by normal rules. So its possible he can be scum but for now I'll put him in town pile

The role is -probably- Town, but not necessarily. Masonizer is out.

Hey Beck, can you give a percentage of how likely it is that I'm town due to my role for everyone? Because it's pretty likely and I kind of need your help here. (Yeah, irony, I know.)

Anyway, BBT, are you still up for a Grib lynch? For serious this time. No reaction tests, promise.

Until I do more research, I'd say 75% likely

P.edit - I wish I knew he was town

Based on this, it's a role that is usually, but not always, Town

I'm guessing Neighborizer. It's the only thing that really fits

I've seen Mafia Neighborizers before, it's not a guaranteed Town role. That said, Mafia Neighborizers are rare, Town Neighborizers are merely uncommon

Vote: Grib

Now that the moron convention over Majiffy vs Beck has concluded, can we lynch scum?

Neighborizer is the only thing that comes to mind.

In fact, in researching this reply, I looked at the Normal rules. Neighborizer and Jack of All Trades (with Neighborizer power) are the ONLY roles in the explicitly Normal category that fit. I thought Inventor was non-Normal, but it isn't listed in either location, so it might conceivably be that too.

So, Scripten, now that you've made such a big deal about it, which is it?

[Pine]

[quote=Second post]

Game Setup

Discrete Flavor
Based on Jurassic park theme
Normal mechanics
No bastard[/quote]
Sorry, second post. Which is numbered post 1 for some reason.

[Beck]

He 'finds out' that Scripten is town somehow.

Check your facts cause this never happened. I still don't know scripten is town.

[Pine]

Interesting. I spent some time thinking about this game while driving, and came to the conclusion that Pine reminds me a little of scum-SpyreX in a couple games we'd played because he's put relatively little info about his scumreads into the game, as well as the huzzah type posts he made in reply to a few things I posted.

The first time I played with SpyreX I was kinda wowed by his reputation and brushed over the lack of doing-stuff content.

Rereading this aftgernoon to make sure my on-the-road memory was accurate.

Rereading the bits I missed. Ffery, what of 1333 did you want a response to? There's no question here:

Interesting. I spent some time thinking about this game while driving, and came to the conclusion that Pine reminds me a little of scum-SpyreX in a couple games we'd played because he's put relatively little info about his scumreads into the game, as well as the huzzah type posts he made in reply to a few things I posted.

The first time I played with SpyreX I was kinda wowed by his reputation and brushed over the lack of doing-stuff content.

Rereading this aftgernoon to make sure my on-the-road memory was accurate.

[Pine]

Ugh, I am seriously driving the struggle bus with quotes tonight

[Beck]

He 'finds out' that Scripten is town somehow.

Check your facts cause this never happened. I still don't know scripten is town.

Btw, why would a townie be mad about this if it was true? As a townie if I could somehow scratch 2 possible names off my list of suspects I'd be ecstatic.

Seems to me you are butt hurt scum that has lost 2 townies from your mislynch pool to me...

[Beck]

Ugh, I am seriously driving the struggle bus with quotes tonight

Vote bbt

[Pine]

Yeah, probably. We're not up against a deadline yet, and I only just jumped back in on this. I like to squeeze what I can from each day, rather than lurching wildly from one rabid tunnel to the next

I'm still trying to figure out how the Grib wagon, which was nearly unanimous, disintegrated

[Scripten]

I'm guessing Neighborizer. It's the only thing that really fits

I've seen Mafia Neighborizers before, it's not a guaranteed Town role. That said, Mafia Neighborizers are rare, Town Neighborizers are merely uncommon

Vote: Grib

Now that the moron convention over Majiffy vs Beck has concluded, can we lynch scum?

Right, okay.

This quote makes me feel better. Carry on.

Apologies, Pine, but I don't feel it prudent to continue discussing my role. It'll make sense eventually, promise.

[fferyllt]

Interesting. I spent some time thinking about this game while driving, and came to the conclusion that Pine reminds me a little of scum-SpyreX in a couple games we'd played because he's put relatively little info about his scumreads into the game, as well as the huzzah type posts he made in reply to a few things I posted.

The first time I played with SpyreX I was kinda wowed by his reputation and brushed over the lack of doing-stuff content.

Rereading this aftgernoon to make sure my on-the-road memory was accurate.

Rereading the bits I missed. Ffery, what of 1333 did you want a response to? There's no question here:

Interesting. I spent some time thinking about this game while driving, and came to the conclusion that Pine reminds me a little of scum-SpyreX in a couple games we'd played because he's put

relatively little info about his scumreads into the game, as well as the huzzah type posts

he made in reply to a few things I posted.

The first time I played with SpyreX I was kinda wowed by his reputation and brushed over the lack of doing-stuff content.

Rereading this aftgernoon to make sure my on-the-road memory was accurate.

Mostly I wanted you to disagree with my characterization of your play if you think it's not accurate. I realize that "hey I feel like you're playing in my blind spot and that's something that keeps happening with good MS players of a certain vintage who keep turning out to be scum" isn't something really refutable.

Have you played with Beck before?

[Beck]

Let's entertain the crazy possibility that Beck could be scum.

He 'finds out' that Scripten is town somehow. Scripten is practically conf town to everyone. In turn, Beck seems to be universally town-read, and I feel that it has a lot to do with what has happened between Scripten and himself.

Now, Beck has this town-cred, Beck or his buddy kills Scripten. Scripten flips town!, Beck gains more town-cred for confirming Scripten as town and proceeds to breeze through the game.

How does that sound?

Well I thought it was a lovely story... You tell it SO WELL, with such enthusiasm.

But riddle me this batman. How would I as scum conspire this plan if scripten is town and I was scum who has no idea what role scripten had to begin with?

Also scripten can tell you what happened in the qt, what I said when he asked me to confirm him as town day 2.

The ONLY way this plan works is if we are scum together and then that doesnt even work as a good idea.

[Beck]

I'm still trying to figure out how the Grib wagon, which was nearly unanimous, disintegrated

I don't think grib ever got to l-1

[Mathdino]

Wow, I didn't think of that at all.

I might be persuaded to switch to a BBT lynch today actually. His Beck tunneling doesn't make any sense, along with the fact that he suddenly backed off of Grib once everyone wanted to vote him.

[Pine]

Interesting. I spent some time thinking about this game while driving, and came to the conclusion that Pine reminds me a little of scum-SpyreX in a couple games we'd played because he's put relatively little info about his scumreads into the game, as well as the huzzah type posts he made in reply to a few things I posted.

The first time I played with SpyreX I was kinda wowed by his reputation and brushed over the lack of doing-stuff content.

Rereading this aftgernoon to make sure my on-the-road memory was accurate.

Rereading the bits I missed. Ffery, what of 1333 did you want a response to? There's no question here:

Interesting. I spent some time thinking about this game while driving, and came to the conclusion that Pine reminds me a little of scum-SpyreX in a couple games we'd played because he's put

relatively little info about his scumreads into the game, as well as the huzzah type posts

he made in reply to a few things I posted.

The first time I played with SpyreX I was kinda wowed by his reputation and brushed over the lack of doing-stuff content.

Rereading this aftgernoon to make sure my on-the-road memory was accurate.

Mostly I wanted you to disagree with my characterization of your play if you think it's not accurate. I realize that "hey I feel like you're playing in my blind spot and that's something that keeps happening with good MS players of a certain vintage who keep turning out to be scum" isn't something really refutable.

Have you played with Beck before?

I disagree in general with analyzing people using the meta of entirely different players, but your opinion is your opinion.

Yes, I've played a few games with Beck and read several others. He tends to have a very transparent difference between Town and scum. Pants-on-head ubertunneling is his Town MO

I'm still trying to figure out how the Grib wagon, which was nearly unanimous, disintegrated

I don't think grib ever got to l-1

Irrelevant. There was a point near day start where every player except BBT and Grib himself endorsed a Grib lynch

[fferyllt]

Pants-on-head ubertunneling is his Town MO

I wondered because I was the first to call him pants on head town here, and it seemed like you picked it right up along with my very thin meta description of his scum game vs what I'm seeing here, in my second game with him.

[Pine]

It's a good term. You're not the first I've heard it from, but hearing it from you reminded me of how fond I am of it

[BlueBloodedToffee]

He 'finds out' that Scripten is town somehow.

Check your facts cause this never happened. I still don't know scripten is town.

OK, if we're going to be pedantic. You said you were pretty sure Scripten was town, like 75% or something like that.

Btw, why would a townie be mad about this if it was true? As a townie if I could somehow scratch 2 possible names off my list of suspects I'd be ecstatic.

Seems to me you are butt hurt scum that has lost 2 townies from your mislynch pool to me...

I just told you why I'm suspicious of it. I can't simply scratch 2 names off my lynch list because you can quite easily still be scum.

Well I thought it was a lovely story... You tell it SO WELL, with such enthusiasm.

But riddle me this batman. How would I as scum conspire this plan if scripten is town and I was scum who has no idea what role scripten had to begin with?

Also scripten can tell you what happened in the qt, what I said when he asked me to confirm him as town day 2.

The ONLY way this plan works is if we are scum together and then that doesnt even work as a good idea.

Well, you see, it's very simple.

You simply decided to do it at the start of D2. It's not a plan that you 'hatched', it's an opportunity that has presented itself to you.

Wow, I didn't think of that at all.

I might be persuaded to switch to a BBT lynch today actually. His Beck tunneling doesn't make any sense, along with the fact that he suddenly backed off of Grib once everyone wanted to vote him.

Yeah, it doesn't take much to persuade you, does it?

Seems as you're so convinced Beck can't be scum, you can have my vote.

VOTE: Math

[Beck]

1. Ask scripten what my reaction was last night. Also look at me day 2, I had to research first and the. I still wasn't convinced completely. If I was scum, I would immediately started buddying him.

2. That makes literally no sense if you are Town, so you are scum

3. You fail so bad, that literally makes no sense

4. Why math and not me? Or pine (you know, the guy who you wanted to hammer? ) Or scripten or fferly? All seem convinced I'm not scum

[BlueBloodedToffee]

1. Ask scripten what my reaction was last night. Also look at me day 2, I had to research first and the. I still wasn't convinced completely. If I was scum, I would immediately started buddying him.

2. That makes literally no sense if you are Town, so you are scum

3. You fail so bad, that literally makes no sense

4. Why math and not me? Or pine (you know, the guy who you wanted to hammer? ) Or scripten or fferly? All seem convinced I'm not scum

Yeah, it's hard looking from the outside in. But, maybe you couldn't come out and simply claim Scripten is 100% town because Scripten knows that you cannot know for sure he is town? If that makes sense. Like, you can have a good idea that he is town, but you can't know for certain. Therefore, it would be stupid for you to come out and claim that to be the case.

Just insults for 2 and 3? I'll move on.

Well, I chose Math because, you know, I think he is scum. That's how this game works right? You vote for who you think is scum in the hope that people listen and lynch that person?

[Beck]

simply claim Scripten is 100% town because Scripten knows that you cannot know for sure he is town?

Do me a favor, ask scripten what he asked me to do and what my response was.

Thanks

[Beck]

Well, I chose Math because, you know, I think he is scum. That's how this game works right? You vote for who you think is scum in the hope that people listen and lynch that person?

So you dont think pine is scum? Why did you give intent to hammer on him if you didn't think he was scum?

[Beck]

I mean pine is closest to a Lynch so if you were really trying to lynch a scum read, pine would have made more sense. Seema like he was only a viable option when he was at l-1 which speaks VOLUMES to how scummy you are

[Pine]

Dude, BBT is scum, but bad logic. I'm going after Grib despite BBT being closer.

GodDAMN I hate bad logic. It weakens an otherwise good case

[Beck]

No bad logic here bro

[BlueBloodedToffee]

So you dont think pine is scum? Why did you give intent to hammer on him if you didn't think he was scum?

Why do you repeat questions I have answered?

I quite clearly stated my reasons for the intent to hammer.