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Post Post #1975 (ISO) » Thu Nov 13, 2014 10:00 am

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I am not scum, you are just going to have to believe me on this.
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Post Post #1976 (ISO) » Thu Nov 13, 2014 10:01 am

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In post 1975, Formerfish wrote:I am not scum, you are just going to have to believe me on this.


*starts eating popcorn*

*while noming* whatever happened to despslot!scum? *nomnomnom*
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Post Post #1977 (ISO) » Thu Nov 13, 2014 10:01 am

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In post 1975, Formerfish wrote:I am not scum, you are just going to have to believe me on this.


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Post Post #1978 (ISO) » Thu Nov 13, 2014 10:03 am

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so any takers?

we have me/GC/who all posting right now
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Post Post #1979 (ISO) » Thu Nov 13, 2014 10:03 am

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Maybe it is Fish and BBT
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Post Post #1980 (ISO) » Thu Nov 13, 2014 10:04 am

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In post 1979, Doctor Who wrote:Maybe it is Fish and BBT


why are you not voting either of them then?
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Post Post #1981 (ISO) » Thu Nov 13, 2014 10:04 am

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Despslot scum would equal you scum as well
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Post Post #1982 (ISO) » Thu Nov 13, 2014 10:05 am

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In post 1981, Formerfish wrote:Despslot scum would equal you scum as well


but you said desp was scum for most of the last few days, why the sudden change of hearts?
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Post Post #1983 (ISO) » Thu Nov 13, 2014 10:06 am

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also you were calling me scum off a slip of VT wording

im gonna go afk. i want to see hwo this unfolds
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Post Post #1984 (ISO) » Thu Nov 13, 2014 10:07 am

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The Wiki wrote:
The Commuter is a role that "leaves Town" each Night
, thus making them ineligible to be targeted by Night actions. By extension, they cannot use any Night actions they may have.

Because they cannot use Night actions, almost all Commuters are pro-Town.

It is worth noting that because in flavor it physically leaves the game for the Night instead of being protected somewhere in Town, Commuter is considered the ultimate in Untargetability, trumping even things like Strongman.

lol, this might be a bit much.

But. "Tourist" implies BBT is visiting our casino. A tourist isn't a permanent residence of the town/casino. And "leaving town" in this game would actually be leaving the casino. So a tourist wouldn't "leave <the casino>" every so often, because a tourist actually
visits
the casino. A tourist leaves his town in bumblefuck America to visit the casino.

The directional aspect of the flavor and the mechanics are backwards.
"This Court has never held that the Constitution forbids the execution of a convicted defendant who has had a full and fair trial but is later able to convince a habeas court that he is 'actually' innocent." In re Davis, 557 U.S. 952, 955 (2009) (Scalia, J., dissenting).
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Post Post #1985 (ISO) » Thu Nov 13, 2014 10:08 am

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In post 1975, Formerfish wrote:I am not scum, you are just going to have to believe me on this.

Who is scum?
"This Court has never held that the Constitution forbids the execution of a convicted defendant who has had a full and fair trial but is later able to convince a habeas court that he is 'actually' innocent." In re Davis, 557 U.S. 952, 955 (2009) (Scalia, J., dissenting).
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Post Post #1986 (ISO) » Thu Nov 13, 2014 10:09 am

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In post 1981, Formerfish wrote:Despslot scum would equal you scum as well

Unless if this is your scum team?
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Post Post #1987 (ISO) » Thu Nov 13, 2014 10:19 am

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Right now I am thinking BBT and Dr Who.

Ika, I really dont have the patience to get into another pissing contest with you right now. I do think that there might be some merit to the whole VT thing, but no one else gives a shit about it and it isnt going to matter until after the game is over, so I've resigned myself on that point.
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Post Post #1988 (ISO) » Thu Nov 13, 2014 10:24 am

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In post 1987, Formerfish wrote:Right now I am thinking BBT and Dr Who.

Ika, I really dont have the patience to get into another pissing contest with you right now. I do think that there might be some merit to the whole VT thing, but no one else gives a shit about it and it isnt going to matter until after the game is over, so I've resigned myself on that point.


then why BBT over the DR?
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Post Post #1989 (ISO) » Thu Nov 13, 2014 10:28 am

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I said this already. When Titus flipped town, to me it dropped the probability of BBT being a town PR to 0%.
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Post Post #1990 (ISO) » Thu Nov 13, 2014 10:30 am

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In post 1989, Formerfish wrote:I said this already. When Titus flipped town, to me it dropped the probability of BBT being a town PR to 0%.


that doesnt explain to me why not DR over BBT right now

if they are both scums it would be moot point on who gets lynched first no?
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Post Post #1991 (ISO) » Thu Nov 13, 2014 10:34 am

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I am more confident in the read based off of setup speculation.
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Post Post #1992 (ISO) » Thu Nov 13, 2014 10:37 am

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In post 1991, Formerfish wrote:I am more confident in the read based off of setup speculation.


elaborate for me?
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Post Post #1993 (ISO) » Thu Nov 13, 2014 10:39 am

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The idea that town would have that much power doesnt seem right to me. I thought that the liar was Titus, and I was wrong. To have a joat, 2 masons, a watcher/tracker, and a commuter doesnt add up at all. Scum would need to have one hell of a power base to offset those roles.
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Post Post #1994 (ISO) » Thu Nov 13, 2014 10:41 am

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Found the claim, came when he was the leading wagon with 3 votes (had four, but GC moved off of him to Nati).

BBT was under pressure at the time, as scum a fakeclaim would have kept him in the game longer.
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Post Post #1995 (ISO) » Thu Nov 13, 2014 10:44 am

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In post 1993, Formerfish wrote:The idea that town would have that much power doesnt seem right to me. I thought that the liar was Titus, and I was wrong. To have a joat, 2 masons, a watcher/tracker, and a commuter doesnt add up at all. Scum would need to have one hell of a power base to offset those roles.


we know that have ninja alone already vis titus

commuter is negative utility by itself to an extent (targeting actions fail)

so im still not convinced on BBT but i will be happy to join you on DR
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Post Post #1996 (ISO) » Thu Nov 13, 2014 10:44 am

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In post 1980, ika wrote:
In post 1979, Doctor Who wrote:Maybe it is Fish and BBT


why are you not voting either of them then?


LYLO. I'm risk adverse by nature.

How sure are you?
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Post Post #1997 (ISO) » Thu Nov 13, 2014 10:46 am

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Commuter allows BBT to avoid not only our JOAT, but our Watcher/tracker. As town it doesnt make sense. I am not willing to go with a weaker read at this point in time.
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Post Post #1998 (ISO) » Thu Nov 13, 2014 10:47 am

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In post 1995, ika wrote:
In post 1993, Formerfish wrote:The idea that town would have that much power doesnt seem right to me. I thought that the liar was Titus, and I was wrong. To have a joat, 2 masons, a watcher/tracker, and a commuter doesnt add up at all. Scum would need to have one hell of a power base to offset those roles.


we know that have ninja alone already vis titus

commuter is negative utility by itself to an extent (targeting actions fail)

so im still not convinced on BBT but i will be happy to join you on DR


O really? What did you think of Fish's lynch vote on Nati?
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Post Post #1999 (ISO) » Thu Nov 13, 2014 10:50 am

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In post 1778, Formerfish wrote:Its not so much that I care about people going vla, its that I get a little annoyed when multiple people in the same game are on extended vla coming into a deadline.

And Green I'm glad that you took that away from what I was saying, [sarcasm]because that's like totally my point.[/sarcasm]

Fuck it.

Vote Nati


Fish, care to explain your vote besides F it?
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