Micro 407: Jurassic Park Mafia - Game Over

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Post Post #1350 (ISO) » Tue Nov 11, 2014 12:10 pm

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Dude, I already told you. You and Grib seem to have this philosophy of "get other people to answer my questions, and don't answer theirs until they do" which makes for insanely annoying pages to read.

If Beck flips scum, I vote Pine, because Beck/Pine makes the most sense out of those 5 pairs.

And yes, you're being a hypocrite if you won't answer the question that you keep asking me.
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Post Post #1351 (ISO) » Tue Nov 11, 2014 12:13 pm

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If Beck flips scum, I look at the remaining players in the game, some VCA and decide who I think is scum.
Meta this. Meta that. Meta Everything. Meta is not a good scum-hunting tool. PEOPLE CAN MANIPULATE THEIR META. Stop it. Stop. It. Now.
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Post Post #1352 (ISO) » Tue Nov 11, 2014 12:15 pm

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Also, if you actually read my posts, you'd see how I came to that conclusion. Jussayin.

BBT, there's nothing wrong with working with your scumreads. Dismissing everything they say is dangerous if they end up being town; you have to pretty much start over.

Edit: Okay wow. Why can't you do that now? Why is 50 pages not enough information for you to come to a conclusion?
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Post Post #1353 (ISO) » Tue Nov 11, 2014 12:25 pm

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I'm willing to work with my scum-reads, I realize I can be wrong. I'm talking with you right now.

Because I have the extra info of a 2nd lynch and a 2nd NK to help me analyze Tomorrow.

I just said that.
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Post Post #1354 (ISO) » Tue Nov 11, 2014 12:30 pm

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In post 1348, Mathdino wrote:Beck/BBT also doesn't make sense.


I don't know if I agree with this. If BBT were to flip scum today, I'd be interested in going for a Pine or Beck lynch. More of a gut feeling, especially without a flip, though.
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Post Post #1355 (ISO) » Tue Nov 11, 2014 12:31 pm

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In post 1345, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:PEdit - Are you saying I didn't think you were scum D1 Beck?

you know i am not scum, you only called me scum because I refused to stop pushing scripten which is basically you not scum reading me and instead was a veiled policy lynch vote because early on I was pushing him AFTER he soft claimed you were still calling me town. You proved later you didn't really think I was scum when you did a 180 again and called me town all because i claimed VT, you decided you wanted to go after somebody else which reaks of running people up just to get them to claim aka PR hunting.

then you do another 180 on me and vote me because I did self meta...

yeah you aren't town
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Post Post #1356 (ISO) » Tue Nov 11, 2014 12:33 pm

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In post 1345, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:It's a post that reeks of 'Look how hard I'm trying to work out this game'

and trying to work out the game is scummy? :facepalm:

bbt needs to be :dead:
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Post Post #1357 (ISO) » Tue Nov 11, 2014 12:34 pm

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Beck, you got to L-1 because there were 3 other players voting you for the same reason BBT did.

BBT is not scum for tunneling. If he is scum, there are more aspects to this.
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Post Post #1358 (ISO) » Tue Nov 11, 2014 12:35 pm

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and just for the record, beck isn't going to flip scum
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Post Post #1359 (ISO) » Tue Nov 11, 2014 12:36 pm

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I'm using the question of what if you flip scum to prove that BBT is wrong about you. Indirect proof: If assuming the opposite of what you want to prove leads to a contradiction, then what you want to prove is true.
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Post Post #1360 (ISO) » Tue Nov 11, 2014 12:40 pm

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until bbt can actually put a list of REAL reasons why he is scum reading me down in print for everyone to see and not some malarky about me using self meta and I wouldn't stop tunneling scripten, it's not even worth your time to try and prove bbt wrong. With those kinds of reasons, those are scum motivated reasons and scum can't be "wrong" they can only be scum.
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Post Post #1361 (ISO) » Tue Nov 11, 2014 12:57 pm

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Beck, please explain why you aren't seeing Grib/BBT? For me, one of the few ways BBT's early push on Grib even makes sense as scum is if they were scum together. I'm having a hard time seeing scum going that far to pull a scumslip scenario out of their ass just to tunnel town.

Furthermore, BBT might've been hyper-aware of how his partner slipped based on the fact that he knows the information Grib got in his PM.

Regardless, don't want to lynch BBT today. Just trying to see where your BBT/Pine thing is coming from.
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Post Post #1362 (ISO) » Tue Nov 11, 2014 12:59 pm

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Cause I see pine is scum and I see bbt is scum, I also think grib is lynch bait. When almost everyone is willing to lynch a person, that's a red flag for me.
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Post Post #1363 (ISO) » Tue Nov 11, 2014 1:02 pm

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BBT is unwilling to lynch him.
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Post Post #1364 (ISO) » Tue Nov 11, 2014 1:13 pm

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In post 1363, Mathdino wrote:BBT is unwilling to lynch him.


But you're not willing to lynch BBT?

This sense no maketh.
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Post Post #1365 (ISO) » Tue Nov 11, 2014 1:13 pm

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Well I did say almost everyone
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Post Post #1366 (ISO) » Tue Nov 11, 2014 1:16 pm

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In post 1364, Scripten wrote:
In post 1363, Mathdino wrote:BBT is unwilling to lynch him.


But you're not willing to lynch BBT?

This sense no maketh.

I actually drew a chart of this, haha. Draw a B, a G, a P, and an f in a square. Now draw connections between BG, GP, Gf, BP, and Pf.
Note that no matter what the scumteam is, it contains either Grib, Pine, or both. I still see the possibility of a Grib/Pine team, so lynching BBT would be a bad move.
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Post Post #1367 (ISO) » Tue Nov 11, 2014 1:24 pm

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Mathdino, is Pine your buddy?
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Post Post #1368 (ISO) » Tue Nov 11, 2014 1:28 pm

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An excellent line of questioning. Do you still beat your wife?

Regardless, if we're scum together, you won't have to worry since I'm lynching him if you flip town.
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Post Post #1369 (ISO) » Tue Nov 11, 2014 1:32 pm

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Interesting. All I was looking for was a simple yes or no.
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Post Post #1370 (ISO) » Tue Nov 11, 2014 1:34 pm

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But a no would imply that I'm scum but NOT with Pine :P
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Post Post #1371 (ISO) » Tue Nov 11, 2014 1:37 pm

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Let me make that more specific: I was looking for a negative answer. You could have said "I'm not scum."

That's okay, though. Everything's okay.
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Post Post #1372 (ISO) » Tue Nov 11, 2014 1:43 pm

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Eww.

I really hate leading questions like that.
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Post Post #1373 (ISO) » Tue Nov 11, 2014 1:43 pm

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Shh. I'm trying to think.
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Post Post #1374 (ISO) » Tue Nov 11, 2014 2:23 pm

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Done yet or are you just stalling for the sake of stalling?

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