Touhou: MitLoF ~ Makai Mix (Game Over)

[Dreams of an Absolution]

thank gif for a mastin replace-in though


thats at least some compensation

[Curiosity]

Yep. And he hammered his "guilty" so makes sense

~Wis

[beeboy]

It still doesn't but whatever

[Dreams of an Absolution]

so....................


how do we "lynch" this haj loser in post game?

we don't?

[Dreams of an Absolution]

im a realist

i wonder how much jingle barfed when feiled flipped town?

i guess the scum wanted to NK him because of that!

(or he got rolecopped N1)

Haj has NOTHING to lose by faking guilty.

Haj has nothing to lose by faking a guilty, but what does he have to gain?

I'm serious here. If this is a fake guilty, I'm going to want to PL him. I think faking guilties (as town) is playing against your win condition, and should be banable. Thus, I operate under the assumption that he isn't actively an asshat.

I think the point of contention is that I still believe in human decency.

If he is right, we have to suck his crotch. If he is wrong, we kick his crotch

This is wrong, btw. If Fei flips scum and haj flips VT, I will ridicule him just as hard. I will attempt to policy lynch him any time I see him, and will tell my friends he's an incompetent jackass. There is NO GOOD REASON to fakeclaim a guilty as town.

No, I'm pretty sure that's what your advocating.

It's a short jump from:

"He's an alt, there's no way of punishing him" to "Alts can't be punished" to "Alts are a risk to the game." I'm actually genuinely considering that, or at least adding a rule specifically forbidding faking an investigative role as town to my rules list. And my personal opinion of you as a player has dropped.

[Dreams of an Absolution]

i'd appeal for you to retract this

"And my personal opinion of you as a player has dropped."

because, ya know

[Birds of Prey]

all doublevoters are town

No. I did draw SK doublevoter offsite once.

Can I get a list of claims?

~Titus

[Birds of Prey]

so what if its a hammer lol? those of you on the wagon were bad for even making a wagon

Why would a town secret double-voter hammer without telling anyone?

Why would a town claim a fake guilty?

~Wis

Fake claiming guilty works if someone strong scumread someone but had zero shot of getting lynched bc widely townread.

Links to fakeclaim.

~Titus

[Saki]

VOTE: Bird of Prey

VOTE: mastin2

[Ankamius]

^Lynch this guy too

[pirate mollie]

oh yeah, mastina is scum

VOTE: mastina

[mastin2]

i am part of the crew who wants unzan outed

As I said, if enough people say so, I will. But I'd still prefer not to.

Because this sort-of feels like a Nacho-driven scumteam. The general air about the game.

Can you amend this with your thoughts? Nacho hasn't been in this thread much that I've seen (which has already been stated a few times)- let me finish this thought in a second.

Given that it's a gut feeling, not really. notscience just sort of

feels

like a Nacho kill. Like, I think of this playerlist, and the name that first pops into my mind for, "who'd want him dead?" is for whatever reason, "Nacho would". The slot's bad wagoning positioning supports the notion as well. It's just my general feeling off of the general aura of the game that tells me that.

So unzan just voted Alchemist
Guess it's not alchemist

No duh. I told you Unzan is 100% without a doubt town, which means for you to believe Unzan is scum you must believe me to be scum, too. I've expressed Alchemist as a strong scum suspect. Thus, it goes to reason that Alchemist is NOT Unzan.

Speaking of which,
VOTE: Alchemist.

[mastin2]

thank gif for a mastin replace-in though

Actually, though you thinking that is understandable, this is actually the first game I've joined fully of my own volition in probably at LEAST a year. (Aside from deciding to teach, I rely exclusively on invitations to get my games. Every game I've been in the last year has been because someone asked me to play it in a PM.) Like I said, saw the awesome playerlist and literally couldn't pass up the opportunity.

Also, both beeboy and Alchemist have shown reason to doubt their votes on my slot but have kept their votes there anyway.

[mastin2]

(Oh. Nevermind. I think the other theme game I replaced into, bork's mini, was me, though I could be mistaken on that.
STILL, though. At maximum, this is the third of the year. When I probably play at least 20 if not 30 or 40 or more games in a year. That says something about how many times people ask me to play. )

[mastin2]

Isoing mollie, on a skim, hard to say for sure, but I THINK she's town.

[mastin2]

second page of beeboy's iso looks incredibly scum, btw.

[purple hero]

I get where your coming from, mastin but I am still unsure of it being nacho. I am far more willing to bet on wisdoms theory of scum being comfortable with gamestate. we should relook at our top choices, I think because town pushing mislynches contributes to that

[Metal Sonic]

I outed you already anyway Mastina cause any posturing or beating around the bush would lead to a waste of time

[Curiosity]

I agree with MS this time

~Wis

[Curiosity]

Also Mara I didn't make that theory, but agree regardless

~Wis

[Curiosity]

I'm at a place where I think both wagons are scum, so I don't mind the alchemist wagon much.

However, I feel the AD lynch is better right now, because it will also give us info about beeboy, which I understand is widely needed.

~Wis

[purple hero]

pirate mollie
Mononoke (Sakura Hana + Nachomamma8)
purple hero (Antihero + Ms Marangal)
haj/mastin2
Curiosity

ActionDan

Om of the Nom
Ankamius
Saki

SXTLHGaiden
beastcharizard
Time (MTD + Aronis)
nopointinactingup/Birds of Prey
Alchemist21
beeboy

This is the remainder of the player list (nati-sonic, masons, and us aside) , and it is organized by people looked at the most, to those looked at the least throughout the last couple days. I am willing to put a town read on anyone in the top group nostly because of the fact that, Prior to today, those have been the people who have been the most vocal, and have been allowing scum to hide behind the noise, and is also the group of people that have been looked at the post this entire game.

I've had a strong town read on Curiousity D1, and by extension their mason partner is also town. I've mostly been a non-presence, but anti has been doing his best to stay in this game, though for whatever reason a few of his early pics aren't even being looked at.

I feel like Action Dan is scum, but with how the votes have played out makes me second guess, almost scum are wanting to make him today's mislynch but they hadn't succeeded. possible that he is being bussed, at this point in time, though.

the group of people after dan have been vocalized as scum at various points in the game, but have not gone anywhere near L-1 or L-2 which could contribute to scum confidence. I strongly believe that all three of those people are very likely to be scum. Saki and Om, more so.

The last three would be found in the last group of people, IMO and those would be the people who havn't been looked at, at all. If I happen to be wrong and all the scum are in that group, it would be a very strong reason for why they are comfortable with the game state. Beeboy is the least likely to be scum in that group, IMO and IIRC, Anti had a town read on Beast but Titusslot, Time, and gaiden are the prime suspects IMO in this tier.

[purple hero]

Also, Mastin is town and I am unlikely to budge from that read.

I've caught her as scum before, mislynched her as town plenty times, but hardly, if ever do I get a town read on her, and I think I'm going to stick with the one she had given me catching up.

[Curiosity]

Umm Mara
I'm masons with pie, not ms

~Wis

[purple hero]

uhmm.... yeah? I don't have you, and pie listed because you are masons. Nati-sonic isn't listed because I don't really know where they would fit in all that